Berlin Will Reinstate Opera Depicting Prophet Muhammad

[Bittersteel]

MTAFFI go to the refutations section,dude.
Oh he is alleging there's violence in Islam.

 

[Dawud_uk]

MTAFFI go to the refutations section,dude.
Oh he is alleging there's violence in Islam.

of-course there is violence in islam, but not going beyond the bounds set by Allah.

the way i put it to non-muslims is this... you slap me once i am gonna ask why you slapped me, you slap me again i am gonna put you on the floor and give you a good kicking. simple.

 

[Zulkiflim]

when i die and go to heaven god will not ask me these things i will say i reacted peacefully and never turned my back on you. I will say that I did not judge and only felt pity for them because of their ignorance. I will say please judge me on the way I lived my life and not the way others lived theirs.

The question is what will you say to these questions?

Did you blow yourself up in front of them?
Did you curse them?
Did you tell them it displeased you?
Did you raise a hand to them?

Probably all of the above, huh?


also let me make this simple for you, if i saw a baby dying on the street i would pick it up and take it for help. If I saw a man on the street cursing my God i would pray for his soul

Salaam,

Well Let me ask you..

you say that your god requires you not to defend his honour or to defend your faith.
Then tell me,were all those othr billon of chrisitan in the past who murdered and skewed and burned apostates and punished heresies...accrding to their understanding of church law,,wrong?
Are thy hell bound?

And let me as k you..

Did you blow yourself up in front of them?
Thgis is a reaction towards western and isreali arrognce,you are afraid of this arent't you.
For SEp 11,how many the US klilled for revenge?
Why is it the US can defend her their honour when we muslim cannot?

Is it any more noble to drop bomb wiht no affect to yourself? While people who perform suicede bombng die along with their revenge?

A difference is this,while the bomber die they wotn be able to kill any more people...Your murdereous action coninue at the same hands.

Can you tell.me,,when you lord ask you,Whta have you done for the lies? Will you answer or remian quite?

And let see for the next one

Did you curse them?

Dont tell that to curse to honout a holy man is less than to curse for worldy matter.
then trully i must say your priorities are skewered.
PS.Muslim should not curse it is unIslamic,but we curse those who seek dishonour on our revered Holies.


Did it displease you? and did you raise a hand to them?

I think this question is more for you...

I wonder,when Prophet Moses as took his people aways and stood under the mountain,when the people forget the miracle that they saw and worshiped a calf...

Prophet Moses as came back and was angered and punished them,and cursed them with hell.
Tell me,was Prophet Moses as as wrong.
Are you claiming that you are better than Prophet Moses as?

And your answer that if you see a baby crying you would help it,alhamdulilah,something right atleast.

But when you hear some one curses your god,you walk away,and i silence in cowardice you try to show your magnamous being by saying you will pary for his soul.

that is not only deragatory but all unassuingly mocking,praying for his soul.
Why dont you aid his soul by telling him of God and by telling him that you are offended that your god is cursed?

Is it so hard for you to defend your faith?
Is your faith even able to to be questioned by an Atheist?

Awaken your faith and stand by your faith.


Surely msulim shall and will talk and seek diaolgue when both parties are seeking a moderate solution for islam is MODERATIOn,but as the Quran say,,FIGHT THEM WEHN THEY FIGHT YOU.

We muslim wont be the aggresor but the defenders.we defend you also form your weak faith when Prophet Jesus as is dishonoured.

 

[guyabano]

Yea unlimited freedom of speech is so great thats why the world is where it is now.(Definitely not good)
Gimme a break.

at least we know were we stand ! I prefer that, as if everybody would shut up, and still the world would be sick !

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

If everyone shut up, at least they would keep to themselves and cause less chaos! but that isn't gunna happen cuz humans have to release some b*** to feel better about themselves.

 

[MTAFFI]

Salaam,

Well Let me ask you..

you say that your god requires you not to defend his honour or to defend your faith.
Then tell me,were all those othr billon of chrisitan in the past who murdered and skewed and burned apostates and punished heresies...accrding to their understanding of church law,,wrong?
Are thy hell bound?

And let me as k you..

Did you blow yourself up in front of them?
Thgis is a reaction towards western and isreali arrognce,you are afraid of this arent't you.
For SEp 11,how many the US klilled for revenge?
Why is it the US can defend her their honour when we muslim cannot?

Is it any more noble to drop bomb wiht no affect to yourself? While people who perform suicede bombng die along with their revenge?

A difference is this,while the bomber die they wotn be able to kill any more people...Your murdereous action coninue at the same hands.

Can you tell.me,,when you lord ask you,Whta have you done for the lies? Will you answer or remian quite?

And let see for the next one

Did you curse them?

Dont tell that to curse to honout a holy man is less than to curse for worldy matter.
then trully i must say your priorities are skewered.
PS.Muslim should not curse it is unIslamic,but we curse those who seek dishonour on our revered Holies.


Did it displease you? and did you raise a hand to them?

I think this question is more for you...

I wonder,when Prophet Moses as took his people aways and stood under the mountain,when the people forget the miracle that they saw and worshiped a calf...

Prophet Moses as came back and was angered and punished them,and cursed them with hell.
Tell me,was Prophet Moses as as wrong.
Are you claiming that you are better than Prophet Moses as?

And your answer that if you see a baby crying you would help it,alhamdulilah,something right atleast.

But when you hear some one curses your god,you walk away,and i silence in cowardice you try to show your magnamous being by saying you will pary for his soul.

that is not only deragatory but all unassuingly mocking,praying for his soul.
Why dont you aid his soul by telling him of God and by telling him that you are offended that your god is cursed?

Is it so hard for you to defend your faith?
Is your faith even able to to be questioned by an Atheist?

Awaken your faith and stand by your faith.


Surely msulim shall and will talk and seek diaolgue when both parties are seeking a moderate solution for islam is MODERATIOn,but as the Quran say,,FIGHT THEM WEHN THEY FIGHT YOU.

We muslim wont be the aggresor but the defenders.we defend you also form your weak faith when Prophet Jesus as is dishonoured.

First let me go ahead and stop you with the whole crusades thing you mention in the 1st paragraph, the crusades were a long time ago and this just doesnt happen today, so lets try to live in the present, shall we?

2nd thing, your second paragraph you ask if we are afraid of your weak suicide bombers. Well let me tell you, i am not at all afraid of death, i look forward to it when God calls me. My reaction to this is not at all being afraid, it actually amuses me. These people think they will have 40 virgins in heaven and they are making this great accomplishment when really they will just die and go to hell, and i feel they are better off there. There many be thousands of these islamic extremist that want to do this but guess what? One day they will all be dead and i cant wait. You go on to say it is in their defense, well let me ask you this, what were they defending. Before Sept. 11 the USA did not presently occupy their land, so in essence they started the war, WE ARE DEFENDING OURSELVES AND OUR FREEDOM SOMETHING THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO CONCEPT OF. We drop bombs on those who attack us and we dont die at the same time because we arent idiots.

3rd, as for you next little spew talking about what will God ask me, i know i will be able to tell him i didnt contribute to the violence, i was a peaceful, loving man. I will be able to tell him i did the best with my own life and tried to live by his word. God isnt judging me on everyone elses actions, he will judge me according to my own. This world is to big for me to stop everyone who uses foul language or whatever. If they want to do it and go to hell it is there choice, like i said before, i love people and i will pray that they change their ways.

As for being better than Moses, i have to say if i could part a red sea I might think more into changing the world, but being a normal man and having nothing other than myself to offer to God i am not going to punish anyone else for their actions.

As for defending my faith, the Holy Bible does not ask me to attack every person who denounces God. It asks me to pray for them and to live in peace. As for attack them when they attack you, i agree, no one should be oppressed, however i must say again, radical Islam attacked us first.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

First let me go ahead and stop you with the whole crusades thing you mention in the 1st paragraph, the crusades were a long time ago and this just doesnt happen today, so lets try to live in the present, shall we?

Stop blaming Islam and the Muslims in general for what a minority are doing, then we shall think about it. Till then, expect it coming to you. Maybe you will learn, maybe not. I highly doubt it, considering you know nothing yet.

I am not at all afraid of death, i look forward to it when God calls me. My reaction to this is not at all being afraid, it actually amuses me.

Muslims do not fear death either. Your going in circles.

These people think they will have 40 virgins in heaven and they are making this great accomplishment when really they will just die and go to hell, and i feel they are better off there.

Lol who told u they are dying for the virgins? The corrupted media that likes focusing on only bad things about Muslims? I'm not surprised

There many be thousands of these islamic extremist that want to do this but guess what? One day they will all be dead and i cant wait.

Yup i cant wait to see u going in hell either. See u on Judgement Day

You go on to say it is in their defense, well let me ask you this, what were they defending. Before Sept. 11 the USA did not presently occupy their land, so in essence they started the war, WE ARE DEFENDING OURSELVES AND OUR FREEDOM SOMETHING THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO CONCEPT OF. We drop bombs on those who attack us and we dont die at the same time because we arent idiots.

Whats your proof of Bin Laden? Fake videos? Hve you ever took notice of em carefully. I have one video showing Bin Laden wearing gold. Muslims do NOT wear gold. An "extremist" would know not too. They also say hes left handed and hes writing with his right hand in the video?( or other way around).
By the way they still have no proof or aren't sure Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. So why did they go in there?

3rd, as for you next little spew talking about what will God ask me, i know i will be able to tell him i didnt contribute to the violence, i was a peaceful, loving man.

Dont forget to tell "God" that you threw nuthing but misconceptions about Muslims and Islam in our faces. Yup your a loving man alright

I will be able to tell him i did the best with my own life and tried to live by his word. God isnt judging me on everyone elses actions, he will judge me according to my own.

You thinking about being a Muslim? Those too are our beliefs.

This world is to big for me to stop everyone who uses foul language or whatever. If they want to do it and go to hell it is there choice, like i said before, i love people and i will pray that they change their ways.

Just like we can't stop ignorance from spreading from the likes of you.
How do you know won't go to hell buddy? Too much pride I guess? You can feel that way, yet we can't. Your horrible.

As for being better than Moses, i have to say if i could part a red sea I might think more into changing the world

Your not worth being compared to Moses(pbuh). That would be an insult to him(pbuh).

but being a normal man and having nothing other than myself to offer to God i am not going to punish anyone else for their actions.

Maybe not physically but your doing a good job verbally.

As for defending my faith, the Holy Bible does not ask me to attack every person who denounces God. It asks me to pray for them and to live in peace.

Well the Bible says to kill an apostate. Although your comment is not direct, your throwing it off at us indirectly. Smart, but not enough

It asks me to pray for them and to live in peace.

Its 'asks" you but your not exactly doing that. All you do is slander, even since that first post i answered of urs and you went "dot dot dot."

As for attack them when they attack you, i agree, no one should be oppressed, however i must say again, radical Islam attacked us first.

Lol you have some horrible history. If your out of school, go back to it. Oh and dont read lies please, thanx

Take a look at your comments MTAFFI and you'll notice you have a lot of issues you need to work out. Your hypocracy and ignorance is as clear as daylight. Too obvious. Before you point fingers and speak ill of someone, fix yourself. If you took the time to do it, you will see you have too many problems.

 

[Isaac]

MTAFFI, who says the crusaders are finished. What do you call christian extremist such as George W Bush and Ian Blair. The only differece is they hide behind the so called war on Terror sorry Islam.

Goerger W Bush standing in the White House has many atimes this is a crusade againts an evil ideoligy. An evil ideoligy becuase it talks about jihaad and wants to rule the world?

http://www.socialistworker.org/2006-1/576/576_05_RacistCrusade.shtml

And dont go on about how this is rubbish, or its all a lie, well were humans, and humans have a tendancy to differe and belive in different things, which is why your a christain and i am a muslim. And proud to be.

 

[wilberhum]

Whats your proof of Bin Laden?

You are obviously a graduate of the “Ostrich School of Reality”.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

nope but im not a stupid fool to fall into useless lies kay:

 

[wilberhum]

nope but im not a stupid fool to fall into useless lies kay:

:giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:
What more can I say. Come join the real world.
CAIR even acknowledges what OBL did.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I dont trust people, let alone a human being who is not FLAWLESS!

 

[wilberhum]

I dont trust people, let alone a human being who is not FLAWLESS!

You would conclude the world is flat. :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Lol course not
newaayssss!
im kinda high...(naturally of course LOL)
so i dunno what ive been saying =D
People are smart and can be smart enough to lie is my point.
I cant decide, unless i found out for myself is also my point.

 

[guyabano]

nope but im not a stupid fool to fall into useless lies kay:

sure, and you don't believe in stupid conspiracys about the west, like 9/11 was fake, holocaust didn't exist... and so on !

Somehow you remember me another woman here on the forum , same behaviour, same arguments, same comments ! hmmmmm :?

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Lol you guys are retarded. im talking about people lying. Stop bringing in irrelevant things.
Good God! ok my point of all this is that im not denying anything which "occured."
Im saying i cant trust people giving me the reason or the perpetrators behind it.

 

[wilberhum]

Lol you guys are retarded. im talking about people lying. Stop bringing in irrelevant things.
Good God! i can trust the holocaust, but i dont trust 9/11...
holocaust there was more legit proof

How many thousands of pages of evidence, how many vidos, how many confessions do you need?

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

How many times do liars get away in court and the innocent gets injustice?
The liars or ones with more cash can get fake evidence. A lot wouldnt u agree? This is nuthing compared to that. He always speaking Arabic, how do i know the person translating isnt lying? These are my views, if u dont like it, deal wit it. Im not even saying urs is wrong. Its how i see things.

 

[wilberhum]

Its how i see things.

Maybe you should take off your "Faith Blinders".

 

[- Qatada -]

Maybe you should open your eyes. Have you not heard about propaganda? Or do you think that people don't do that no more? Do you actually believe that everything you see is the absolute truth?


If you love your freedom, then realise that you'll lose it one day anyway. And that's when you die. Every soul will taste death. And it might be sooner than you expect.