Boston bombings

[Pygoscelis]

This doesn't make much sense as a false flag operation. Nor does it make a whole lot of sense as a terrorist attack. It didn't come with a political message and it didn't galvanize the public against a bogeyman foe anymore than they already were. I think this one may just be a couple crazy anarchists who just wanted to blow stuff up.

 

[faithandpeace]

After the Boston bombings people ask, "Why don't Muslims speak out against terrorism?" We do. Muslims speak out about the terrorism done against civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan by the U.S. government, terrorism against civilians in Gaza by the Israeli government, terrorism against civilians in Syria, and decades of terrorism against Muslims throughout the Islamic world by totalitarian regimes created, backed, supported, and installed by the United States government. But apparently those of us who do speak out against evil in this world are considered to have become "radicalized." Because apparently sitting mindlessly in front of reality television in mental oblivion unconcerned about real issues is what we are told is normal. It is very sad regarding the current state of affairs. And Allah knows best.

 

[جوري]

This doesn't make much sense as a false flag operation. Nor does it make a whole lot of sense as a terrorist attack. It didn't come with a political message and it didn't galvanize the public against a bogeyman foe anymore than they already were. I think this one may just be a couple crazy anarchists who just wanted to blow stuff up.

per the previous post by Sr. Islamica a couple of laws were passed and martial law implimented -- it is just a drill for future full implementation of martial law. It is the transformation of the U.S into the police state..
happened before nothing is new here save for history repeating itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

there's nothing at all 'Islamic' about those boys in fact they look like a couple of hippies who like to party hardy!

 

[جوري]

After the Boston bombings people ask, "Why don't Muslims speak out against terrorism?" We do. Muslims speak out about the terrorism done against civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan by the U.S. government, terrorism against civilians in Gaza by the Israeli government, terrorism against civilians in Syria, and decades of terrorism against Muslims throughout the Islamic world by totalitarian regimes created, backed, supported, and installed by the United States government. But apparently those of us who do speak out against evil in this world are considered to have become "radicalized." Because apparently sitting mindlessly in front of reality television in mental oblivion unconcerned about real issues is what we are told is normal. It is very sad regarding the current state of affairs. And Allah knows best.

I really do wonder if the average american is as dumb as all that.. I have spoken with very blue collar workers who were on to all of this.. so I am not sure people are as dumb as the govt. and media hope for them to be.. but you never know maybe there's just clusters of idiots in certain places more than others.

 

[faithandpeace]

The agenda is simple: perpetuate a culture of fear. When people are scared they are easier to control. The Boston attack and today's 9/11 debris (by a mosque of all places) discovery are social conditioning exercises.

 

[جوري]

(by a mosque of all places)

:haha: you should have heard the news today on the radio I heard it while driving ..
no comment really beyond that- I was wondering if they just push to see what they can get away with and they get away with everything. Honestly if they'd said it was in a dumpster or lodged between buildings or in someone's basement it would have had slight more credibility but what perfect comedic timing and perfect comedic site. This is concocted by the same intelligent creature who came up with the invincible saudi passport story!

 

[جوري]

Another reason if you're young & Muslim and male that you'd better get married in a hurry. Fed govt. seems to like to target bitter loners for funny underwear plots.. and if you'll play along then at least make sure the underwear is stylish (it is gonna be seen by everyone) and let's face it, they don't have the imagination for new scenarios .. it is always going to repeat on us!


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[Independent]

Honestly if they'd said it was in a dumpster or lodged between buildings or in someone's basement it would have had slight more credibility but what perfect comedic timing and perfect comedic site

Wrong again! That's exactly where the wreckage was found - wedged in a narrow gap 18in wide between two buildings. In fact they have been finding occasional wreckage in the area ever since 9/11.

It's also incorrect to say that this was found near a mosque. It is near the site of a proposed mosque - for the simple reason that this is the Twin Towers site, and (as you must know) there is an application to build a mosque here. For that reason, whenever they find wreckage, it's bound to be 'near a mosque' as the gossip goes.

 

[islamica]

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What we've learned from Boston:

1. That white backpacks turn black when the FBI needs a suspect in a case

2. That clever terrorists disguise themselves as dope smoking slackers who don't have a religious or political bone in their bodies

3. That you can train yourself in bomb making and combat handgun skills by reading the Internet without even the slightest hint of any visible real world practice

4. That the safest way to capture dangerous criminals is to broadcast the fact you are looking for them rather than to simply go to the address where you've already visited with them before and pick them up

5. That when one criminal is in the loose, it justifies the shutting down of an entire city, entering anyone's home without a warrant and sticking guns in their faces

6. That "hating America's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan" is something that terrorists do.

7. That anyone not born or descended from people born north of the 50 North latitude in Western Europe are bat **** crazy and not to be trusted (and we're not entire sure about those Scandinavians either.)


Have I left anything out?

 

[titus]

I haven't been here in a while so I thought I would drop by.

I made a couple of predictions before I did. One was that there would be a conspiracy theory thread about the Boston bombings ---. Looks like I was right on both counts.

Independent, I think the fun will come later. You should bookmark this thread so that in a year you can look it up again. Because new facts will come out and the conspiracy theorists will have to totally change what they are saying. What they claim a year from now will be completely different than what they claim now, yet they will still continue to cling to any random "fact" they find to support it.

Such theories are not based on people looking at facts and then coming to a conclusion. They are based on coming to a conclusion and then creating facts (and conveniently ignoring others) in order to "prove" their conclusion.

I also love the baseless accusations that are made with no proof but also no way of disproving them. It makes the people feel like they are making an intelligent point when in fact they are not. (this was all practice for imposing national martial law? Really?) It's like those people that claim that the world leaders are all really lizards disguised as humans. It's so ridiculous that you can't believe people would fall for it, yet you really don't have an answer when they ask you to disprove it.

And just for some fun:

2. That clever terrorists disguise themselves as dope smoking slackers who don't have a religious or political bone in their bodies

Yes, because any true Muslim bomber would act how? And let's ignore the hundreds of Muslim witnesses that saw one of the brothers get reprimanded multiple times in his mosque for being so outspoken about his religious disagreements with the Iman, even to the point of getting kicked out. I guess all those Muslims are in on the conspiracy too?

3. That you can train yourself in bomb making and combat handgun skills by reading the Internet without even the slightest hint of any visible real world practice

Yes, you can learn to make a bomb on the internet.

Combat handgun skills? What are you talking about?

4. That the safest way to capture dangerous criminals is to broadcast the fact you are looking for them rather than to simply go to the address where you've already visited with them before and pick them up

When they first posted the photos they did not know who they were. Part of the reason for releasing the photos was because they needed them identified. I am sure they did go visit their residence in addition to many other places, but if they are not there then it sure helps to have a few million people keeping an eye out for them.

5. That when one criminal is in the loose, it justifies the shutting down of an entire city, entering anyone's home without a warrant and sticking guns in their faces

Do you have any evidence this happened? I am unaware of any searches without permission or a warrant, nor am I aware of them entering anyone's house without a warrant and sticking a gun in their face.

6. That "hating America's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan" is something that terrorists do.

Are you insinuating that there are Muslims that would do this yet be for the wars in Iraq in Afghanistan? That's absurd don't you think?

 

[جوري]

this was flagged as offensive by youtube and it won't be there for long so see it now before it is removed or save it for future reference.

 

[~Zaria~]

When they first posted the photos they did not know who they were. Part of the reason for releasing the photos was because they needed them identified. I am sure they did go visit their residence in addition to many other places, but if they are not there then it sure helps to have a few million people keeping an eye out for them.

Really?

The FBI have been in contact with these brothers for YEARS.

Do you have any evidence this happened? I am unaware of any searches without permission or a warrant, nor am I aware of them entering anyone's house without a warrant and sticking a gun in their face.

[video=youtube;WIEWUYebrrY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WIEWUYebrrY#t=75 s[/video]
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You dont need to watch the entire vid - just from 1:40 - 2:14 to see for yourself.

Also, can you explain how the elder brother actually got killed?
There is actual footage of him being naked and hand-cuffed, and led away, surrounded by armed forces.
Are we really to believe that his brother ran him over and killed him in cold blood thereafter? (without running over anyone else??)


Whether the Boston bombing is another false flag cannot be said with absolute certainty at this stage.
Allah (subhanawatáala) knows best in this regard.

BUT: if you cannot see the MANY problems with this story, then you are simply chosing to keep your eyes closed.
The rest of the world (a growing number) have chosen to wake up instead....

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/04/27/300590/caught-israel-orchestrating-world-war/

 

[titus]

You dont need to watch the entire vid - just from 1:40 - 2:14 to see for yourself.

I see some video but no context. I do not deny that it may have happened, but I have yet to hear of any illegal searches or sweeps.

As for the older brothers death I have seen nothing to disprove the account given about him being run over. We shall see if the younger brother denies it or gives a different story. You also have to believe that every witness to those events were a part of the conspiracy, so if the conspiracy is true the number of people that have to be involved in it is creeping into the thousands.

The FBI have been in contact with these brothers for YEARS.

They interviewed him a long time ago and came to the conclusion he wasn't a threat. That is a far cry from being able to see the pictures of him with a cap on and positively identify him.

And if it were a conspiracy don't you think it would be stupid as hell for them to post his picture and identity before they captured him? Wouldn't it have been much smarter to have killed him and then say they killed the guy who did it in a gun fight afterwards? The fact that they publicized his picture actually points away from a conspiracy, not towards it. Identifying the patsy when he is still out in public would just be idiocy.

 

[faithandpeace]

What I am wondering is why non-Muslims (who have demonstrated zero interest in embracing Islam) come here to an Islamic discussion board to argue with Muslims about topics such as the Boston attacks that are having a negative impact on Islam and making life more difficult for Muslims. It is like we are now being attacked in our own space!

 

[IAmZamzam]

Why, faithandpeace? Because scorn is (to put it admittedly a bit simplistically) a sort of combination of arrogance and anger, and both of these things have a way of slowly swelling up inside you like a balloon does until it bursts--anger because it needs to be released lest you feel yourself to be powerless, and arrogance because it needs to be expressed lest it be the other guy thinking that of you. But I'm probably making it sound like some huge, dramatic process whereas more often than not it's at least half subconscious, if not fully so.

 

[جوري]

It is like we are now being attacked in our own space!

Right on sis.. enough their ugliness of the world out there, must we also embrace their BS in this place?

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None of them of course speak of events such as this.. no this is deserved, the genocide of Muslims is AOK.. you get a pressure cooker (undoubtedly cooked by the U.S itself) and then whole world is in mourning.. they're so full of it and they can shove it!

 

[islamica]

No Janaza for the bomber

CAIRO – The funeral of one of the Boston attackers is posing a new challenge for the Muslim community as several mosques are shying away from conducting the service.

"I would not be willing to do a funeral for him," Imam Talal Eid of the Islamic Institute of Boston, told Huffington Post. "This is a person who deliberately killed people."

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, died Friday in a shootout with police over his alleged involvement in a twin bombing in Boston that killed three people and injured scores.

But several mosques have reportedly refused to conduct the funeral service for the dead attacker. Eid, whose group arranges funeral prayers and burials in Boston, believes that the attacker Tamerlan Tsarnaev is no longer a Muslim after carrying out his attack.

"There is no room for him as a Muslim. He already left the fold of Islam by doing that," he said. "In the Qur'an it says those who will kill innocent people, they will dwell in the hellfire."

Suhaib Webb, the imam of the Islamic Society of Boston Culture Center, also feels unease at conducting the funeral service for the attacker. "I don't think I could ethically lead a prayer for him," he said. "But I would not stop people from praying upon him."

Several mosque leaders said they would first discuss the issue of holding the funeral service for the Boston bomber if contacted.

"We have not discussed it," said a representative from Al-Marhama, an organization that shares space with the Boston Culture Center.
A similar position is taken by Masjid Al-Hoda in Kingston.

"Nobody has asked me, nobody has called me," said a man who answered the phone at the mosque.

Abdula Hameed, the imam of Masjid Al-Kareem in Providence, has the same view on the funeral. "I'd have to talk to our board members," he said.

Islam calls for respecting human beings whether alive or dead. A Muslim’s dead body should be immediately taken to a mortuary for washing and preparation. Two or three adult Muslims should wash the body and then put on the shroud (kafan). Before the burial, the funeral prayer should be done. The burial should be done as soon as possible. It is makruh (reprehensible) to delay the burial of the dead.

Restrictions

But some mosque officials opine the bomber should get the funeral service regardless of his action.

"We have to confirm if (Tamerlan) was a Muslim," Imam Ikram ul Haq, of Masjid Al-Islam North Smithfield, told Huffington Post.

"If that was confirmed through reliable sources, that he lived a Muslim and died as one, then we (would be allowed) to do a funeral for that person."
Imam Webb agrees. "He should be buried according to the religious tradition he adheres to," he said. "His case is with God. We can judge him as best we can according to the savage and insane actions he has done, but in the end, his soul is going to be brought before God."

But the prominent imam believes that Islamic teachings still place restrictions on the funeral service for the attacker.

"In fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), for somebody who has committed a major atrocity, it is recommended that the imam does not pray over him, but that someone else does," he said. "It's meant to somehow symbolize that there is some grieving with the victims of the person's actions.

"In Islam, if someone is alive and has committed a crime, their opportunity to repent is open until they die," Webb said, referring to the bomber's brother, who is being treated at a Boston hospital after being injured in a shootout with the police. "We hope this man would be guided first of all to help the investigation and seek the forgiveness of family members and all people he has harmed."

(Huffington Post)


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How sad is that? these "Imaams" are denying a Muslim the janaza in order please their kuffar society. So much for innocent till proven guilty....

 

[جوري]

sob7an Allah no innocent until proven guilty anymore.. We're all guilty because they say we're!
btw it is one of the three things that :Allah::swt: hates for us I wish I could find the hadith.. which is to base our judgement on qeel wa qal
'This was said and that was said'

 

[جوري]

• Iran
• Syria
• CNN
• Amber Lyon
• Federal government of the United States

Please don't
forget to:




March 31, 2013 - Ex-CNN reporter Amber Lyon revealed that during her work for the channel she received orders to send false news and exclude some others which the US administration did not favor with the aim to create a public opinion in favor of launching an aggression on Iran and Syria.

Lyon was quoted by the Slovak main news website as saying that the mainstream US media outlets intentionally work to create a propaganda against Iran to garner public opinion's support for a military invasion against it.

She revealed that the scenario used before launching the war on Iraq is being prepared to be repeated where Iran and Syria are now being subject to constant 'demonization'.

The former reporter clarified that the CNN channel manipulates and fabricates news and follows selectiveness when broadcasting news, stressing that the Channel receives money from the U.S. government and other countries' governments in exchange for news content.


Sources and more information:

• Former CNN Reporter Amber Lyon should demonize Syria & Iran

Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/ExCNN_R...te_News_on_Syria_and_Iran/92447#ixzz2RjAmQgwP
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