Boston bombings

[جوري]

Lets realise the following:

The most important thing of all is that a trial by media and the rabid mob that's going on goes against all principles and all common sense. Per the previous article those who are guilty by media are later exonerated by trial. These people will have you believe in guilt by any means to satisfy the sickness that permeates their being.

 

[جوري]

[h=1]Press Release: Misha Character's Role in Boston Bombings[/h]PRESS RELEASE

May 1, 2013

Muslim Peace Coalition USA, a grassroots coalition of Muslim peace activists and organizations which has organized prayer services for the victims of Boston bombings, has expressed concern about the lack of information regarding the man who is supposed to have radicalized the Boston bombers.

According to the news reports the extended family of Boston bombers complains that the Boston suspects were "radicalized" by a man they call "Misha". There are reports in the media that the FBI has already decided to close the file on "Misha" in spite of the uncle of the bombers vehemently blaming him, and the mother admitting to his influence.

It would be expected that on such a high profile case such as the heinous terrorist bombing in Boston, the law enforcement agencies would have held thorough interrogation and detailed the role and motive of "Misha" if he was involved. No such news has come out. This has led to speculation that Misha might have been an "informant" who might have acted as an agent provocateur.

"We hope that this is not the case. The FBI and DHS must clear the air about “Misha.” The Muslim community has identified and reported the radical individuals including the recent arrests in Canada," said Imam Malik Mujahid, the founder of Muslim Peace Coalition USA. “However, in some cases these individuals preaching extremism have turned out to be the agent provacotors according to court records.”

Imam Mujahid also pointed out to the fact that the Times Square bomber and the Boston bombers were arrested because of the phone calls to the police by a Muslim vendor and a Muslim gas attendant respectively. “The Muslim Peace Coalition USA will keep working on its comprehensive strategy of combating terrorism, war and Islamophobia. On one hand we will work with our allies to change American foreign policy that is many times seen as supportive of occupation or corrupt dictators and on the other will teach Muslim youth peaceful and democratic ways of dissent. We will also continue to condemn terrorism unequivocally and will remain steadfast in addressing the root causes of terrorism,” said Imam Mujahid

If the unfortunate scenario proves that “Misha” was part of an infiltration or entrapment attempt, on behalf of US or other government interests, this will have greatly negative consequences. Muslim Peace Coalition USA therefore asks for congressional hearings on the attempts to infiltrate mosques and entrap alienated youth who might have underlying psychiatric or adjustment issues.

Over the last several years the majority of cases in which young men were charged with terror plots involved aggressive use of informants, often raising serious questions about whether they would ever have implemented an actual plot without the help of these agents.

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[~Zaria~]

I am indebted to Zaria for this piece of info, although it supports the official view rather than the conspiracy. She urged me to input 'Boston Bomb Conspiracy' into YouTube and i did. The first item up was this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENd3q9bgbvI&bpctr=1367438191

(If the link doesn't work, input the same search term and hopefully it will come up first - it has an extra layer of protection on the link.)

For those of you who are still hanging onto the Craft International story, it definitively identifies the men as members of the Massachusetts malitia who were assisting with the security on the day. The video shows pics of the individuals concerned - they are not Craft. They can be seen helping in the aftermath of the bomb. The guy who was supposed to have left a backpack can be seen with his backpack still in place, after the blast.

Secondly, it shows another photo just before the bomb with Dzkokhar standing a few feet behind a number of the known victims - including the 8 year old boy who was killed. It places him unquestionably right at the key spot (about 1min 20 in the video).

Dzhokhar was right there, in the right spot.

Hmmm.....you've demonstrated perfectly how we find exactly what we are looking for.

Ive had a look at the vid - personally, I havent thought much about the men wearing 'Craft' uniforms, and so I havent mentioned anything in this regard.

The rest of the video are his opinions on the bombings (which he is entitled to).

Thanks for sharing.

You are still welcome to watch the other vids that followed.


Ps. I think a lot of confusion surrounding this case could have been avoided if the FBI was just more open with the public (but that would be assuming that they have nothing to hide....)

 

[Independent]

Hmmm.....you've demonstrated perfectly how we find exactly what we are looking for

A trifle unfair - it was the first one! Actually I thought it was pro-conspiracy when it started. I have to congratulate the guy on tracking down those National Guard photos, that was some research.

 

[~Zaria~]

A trifle unfair - it was the first one! Actually I thought it was pro-conspiracy when it started. I have to congratulate the guy on tracking down those National Guard photos, that was some research.

FYI: He is a 9/11 'conspiracy theorist' himself! lol

Maybe you will find his videos on 9/11 also more credible than our sources

 

[جوري]

 

[islamica]

something i got in email...

 

[faithandpeace]

I'm convinced.

 

[titus]

FBI did not reveal that they had made previous contact with the brothers.
This was revealed by their mother

The FBI acknowledged this within hours of the public identification of the suspects on April 19th.

 

[titus]

something i got in email...

So now there wasn't even a bomb?

 

[islamica]

So now there wasn't even a bomb?

Maybe not at that particular place, evidence already has shown so many discrepancies as well as fake victims being used, such as that legless veteran. Open your mind and you will see anything is possible....

 

[titus]

So now we add Jeff Bauman (the "fake" legless man), his girlfriend and all of his family and all of his friends in on the conspiracy since they obviously claim he had legs before the incident. You also have to add all the doctors that treated these people and the "fake" legless man to the conspiracy also. With every "fact" that you find regarding this so-called conspiracy you add more and more people to it. The logistics for this conspiracy must have been incredibly astounding to have all these doctors in on it, all these actors with fake injuries for a fake bomb (which we have video of going off), the families of all those actors who now have to claim they had limbs before the bombing....

All based on a file you saw that written by some EMT who can decipher a complete conspiracy including what all the hand signals mean.....

And what do you say about the video of the huge explosion? Was that faked also? And the families of the child killed... and the Chinese girl and her family... was all that faked also?

The fact that people are actually being convinced now that the injured people at the scene of the bombing were actors just shows how absurd this whole conspiracy thing is getting.

 

[جوري]

You can't blame a guy who doesn't understand basic anatomy & physiology. Hey, it was on TV and he started the sentence with 'so now' instead of attempting to explain how the victim was cauterized at the scene without surgeons and anesthetics.
Leave him be eventually he'll take a hint!

 

[islamica]

Bill Moyers interview on Boston Marathon bombing

Talking to the PBS host about civil liberties, terrorism, US foreign policy and the dangers of secrecy.

Time constraints are preventing me from writing much today, but the full 25-minute interview I did with Bill Moyers, to air beginning this evening on PBS, is now available on the recorder below. We discuss the Boston Marathon bombing, terrorism and civil liberties, the dangers of secrecy, US foreign policy and general issues relating to US political and media culture:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/26/bill-moyers-boston-terrorism-secrecy


UPDATE

Via commenter axenicely, the transcript to this interview, prepared by the Moyers show, is here.

 

[جوري]

What we are discussing in this thread does not impact our imaans/ faith.
If one choses to believe the various forms of propaganda, this does not lessen his/ her faith, and vice versa.

I'd argue that verifying the information we receive is integral in Islam.

[FONT=Verdana,arial]Al-Hujurat (The Dwellings)[49:6] [RECITE]

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Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo in jaakum fasiqun binabain fatabayyanoo an tuseeboo qawman bijahalatin fatusbihoo AAala ma faAAaltum nadimeena​

49:6 O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done.
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I haven't seen a trial so far, I am rather astounded that men are deemed guilty by media circus and nothing else and that one of them had to be silenced for it...
I do wonder if any of us were pursued by a mob our for blood, military, FBI etc. how we ourselves would behave, regardless of whether guilty or not it is a judicial matter that needs evidence not media and not coerced confession from a sacrificial lamb or two.


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[Independent]

Maybe not at that particular place, evidence already has shown so many discrepancies as well as fake victims being used, such as that legless veteran. Open your mind and you will see anything is possible....

We also need to open our minds to what is impossible. Jeff Bauman was not the only victim. There were 264 people were treated at 27 local hospitals - think how many people that involves. There were also hundreds of uninjured witnesses. Not a single person has come forward to support the idea that it was all an act. Not one! Are they all in on it too? But we're always being told these conspiracies don't need that many people really...

You are following the usual conspiracy theorist tactic of concentrating on one single event to the exclusion of all else. If a single other person's injuries are shown to be genuine, it contradicts the 'fake bomb' theory just as comprehensively as the reverse. Since Jeff is just one example, and there are so very many others where no evidence is given, that alone should lead you to give the benefit of the doubt to the official account.

And when you look at the Jeff Bauman story individually, it also falls apart. Jeff has been interviewed subsequently and his father confirmed his identity early on. Why do you trust Dzhokhar's mum but not Jeff's dad? Also, there are more pictures of Nick Vogt which show him as a different man.

When we look back to similar accusations about Sandy Hook or 9/11, even at this distance of months or years, not a single person has ever come forward or been identified to contradict the official account that they died. By now we're up to 1,000s of people that need to be in on the act. How can you possibly say that this is more plausible?

Even many conspiracists criticise this idea as an attempt to make conspiracies look stupid from the inside. Of all the conspiracy claims, the 'no victim' angle is the least credible.

For this to be a fake, we don't need one amputee actor - we need about 30.

 

[جوري]

Not a single person has come forward to support the idea that it was all an act.

People coming forward or not does not an argument make. 37 people saw a woman get raped and murdered and did nothing, not a single one dialed 911 or went to her aid. If that's your defense- it is pretty pathetic!
Bottom line is (for whatever it means to this case) that man's injuries are incongruent with his state of being!

best,

 

[جوري]

please learn a little something about psychology especially in a hostile setting before dispensing with the usual BS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility

 

[Independent]

People coming forward or not does not an argument make. 37 people saw a woman get raped and murdered and did nothing, not a single one dialed 911 or went to her aid. If that's your defense- it is pretty pathetic!

264 victims were taken to 27 hospitals. Not one hospital worker has contradicted that story. Do you seriously think they're not going to say anything while treating a series of non-existent injuries? Local stories about various victims are all over the place.

3 people are actually dead, which is pretty amazing acting by anyone's standards.

Please share with us how you think this astonishing, mass-Oscar winning performance was pulled off? How many people do you think it would take just for this single part of the whole conspiracy?

But of course, this is one question you can never answer - because you know it takes too many....

 

[Independent]

please learn a little something about psychology especially in a hostile setting before dispensing with the usual BS

The 264 victims aren't just 'not coming forward' they have to be actively involved - smearing themselves with red paint etc. Ridiculous.