“I decided to forbid the September 11 demonstration ‘against the Islamicisation of Europe,” he said. “Such incitement to discrimination and hatred, which we usually call racism and xenophobia, is forbidden by a considerable number of international treaties and is punished by our penal laws and by the European legislation. The European Court of Human Rights has repeatedly pronounced judgments condemning this type of acts,” he was quoted as saying.
“The intention is obviously to confound the terrorist activities of Muslim extremists on the one hand and Islam as a religion and all Muslims on the other hand,” Thielemans added. “With regard to the planned demonstration of September 11 ‘against the Islamicisation of Europe’ my mind is made up.
You can mention islamization. But, this particular demonstration was doing more than that. It would have led to needless violence and I think we all know what that means by now.So now we cant even mention islamization, because angry muslims in Europe will make riots? Your words rather proved that this demo had sense![]()
Not unless the groups were attending the protests were racists which is pretty much the case for this demo.Again, are muslims who protest against christianization and westernization in muslim world, racists ?![]()
Not really since the laws of that country dictated that particular type of demo would be punishable.This was a really bad move. It was an anti-democratic ruling by the mayor and hopefully the courts will allow the protest.
By letting them have the demo will it change their anger? In anycase, that country's laws and treaties dictated that the demo couldn't take place.The move will only anger further those who hold these views. What is the deal? Xenophobes don't get free speech?
They will find other means of venting their anger such as the internet or a television show. Everyone else manages too...I can see restricting the route of the march to avoid provocation or supplying extra police protection, but this won't work. Do you think the potential marchers will decide they were wrong and open up an interfaith dialogue center?
Anti-Islamicisation Demonstrations deliberately held on September 11th? I predict a riot...
I think the mayor made the right decision.
Are the Turks demonstrating on September 11th?Its funny that Turks in Turkey can demonstrate against islamization, while citizens of Belgium can not. :?
Anti-Islamicisation Demonstrations deliberately held on September 11th? I predict a riot...
I think the mayor made the right decision.
Are the Turks demonstrating on September 11th?
Anyone who allows that sort of demonstration, on that particular day... what do they think will happen? And so I'm glad the mayor of Brussels has not allowed this demonstration to take place.
Dunno why you quoted the other post, but you misunderstand. I'm not saying don't protest. I'm saying if people protest on September 11th of all days, they're asking for trouble.Your words reminded me what Segolene Royal said just before the presidential elections, that if Sarko wins, the youths in french suburbs will make riots. Well, Sarko won. No one likes to get such threatens. Dont protest against islamization, because young muslims in Belgium will burn cars and shops. So maybe we shall wait few years, when its too late. :skeleton:
Not really since the laws of that country dictated that particular type of demo would be punishable.
http://siad.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/aims-of-the-march-911/
Aims of the demonstration:
1. To show the world that Europeans and others have had enough of Sharia by stealth and creeping Islamism.
2. To be the first in a long line of similar events. We are in this for the long haul and continual opposition to Sharia and Islamism will bring us success.
3. To build up a network of millions of people, both as individuals and as members of likeminded organisations, determined to reverse Islamism and restore freedom.
This network will then provide the necessary mutual support for further events.
Therefore, the SIOE Brussels 9/11 Demo only allows the following banners:
Stop islamisation of Europe.
No sharia here.
Democracy not theocracy.
Enough is enough.
I'm not familiar with the Belgian system of law, but I would think if there is any significant freedom of speech protection in the books, then this demonstration was probably unlawfully rejected.
Well, actually the mayors main argument was that it might lead to violence. This is the legal foundation of his ruling on the demonstration; that it might be a threat to public safety. The mayor feared there might be scuffles between the demonstrators and local Muslims.
He might well be right, but thats hardly a reason to ban the demonstration. He also noted that the organizers were Islamophobe, but Islamophobia is not a crime.
Are in muslim countries banned anti- westernization marches?
Suddenly this reminded me a situation from my country. Two years ago, president of Warsaw (now president of Poland) banned gay parade in our capital. He said that it might have led to violence and agression between gays and football hooligans. And you know what, this decision was completely condemned by europeans, also by EU parliament.Our country was named as homophobic, untolerant etc etc. And now where is their reaction?![]()
Yes I think so to, that is because a gay parade is about people protesting for their own rights, as where this demonstration was supposed to be a rally against the rights of others! Big difference wouldn't you say![]()
And what if those people just wanted to fight for stopping muslim immigration to Europe to save the christian roots of this country?
And what if those people just wanted to fight for stopping muslim immigration to Europe to save the christian roots of this country?
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