Canadian teenager cries in Guantanamo interrogation video

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Fishman said:
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They were terrorists before the invasion of Afganistan. The USA funds terrorist organisations when its in their interests.
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Not exactlly, the motive behind the Soviet and American invasions are different. The Soviets invaded for expansion reasons. America invade because of 9/11. Besides the Mujahdeen the US supported became the Northern Alliance not al-queda or the Taliban. When the US was supplying the Mujahdeen through Pakistan Bin Laden was in Sudan.
 
Keltoi said:
I think it is a stretch to characterize it as a place created "for muslim torture only." It is a place to hold and interrogate enemy combatants. Those enemies come from predominantly Muslim countries. If we were at war in the Congo or Zimbabwe, it would be black detainees.
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To prove that Gitmo was orginially built to hold Haitian refugees.
 
Izyan said:
Not exactlly, the motive behind the Soviet and American invasions are different. The Soviets invaded for expansion reasons. America invade because of 9/11. Besides the Mujahdeen the US supported became the Northern Alliance not al-queda or the Taliban. When the US was supplying the Mujahdeen through Pakistan Bin Laden was in Sudan.
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Soviets invaded because Islamist fighters overthrew the Communist regime. They may have wanted expansion as well, but the reason they gave was about protecting their Communist allies.
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The article in the other thread about this issue says so, and there are videos that have been found showing him playing with explosives that the family were using. Although the only evidence comes from US sources, I bet you don't have anything better.
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ok say thats true. Does it justify him being treated like that?
 
Izyan said:
And hundreds of thousands killed by fellow muslims.
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As a result of the illegal occupation duhh!! and where did you get that figure from??? i know, cnnabccbs :rolleyes: and thanks for pointing it out brother:thumbs_do
 
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Ahmedjunior said:
As a result of the illegal occupation duhh!! and where did you get that figure from??? i know, cnnabccbs :rolleyes: and thanks for pointing it out brother:thumbs_do
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I'm going to let you reread your post and give you time to rethink that logic
 
Keltoi said:
I think it is a stretch to characterize it as a place created "for muslim torture only." It is a place to hold and interrogate enemy combatants. Those enemies come from predominantly Muslim countries. If we were at war in the Congo or Zimbabwe, it would be black detainees.
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So... its not for muslim torture only. Its for torture of others too? lol
 
Keltoi said:
Absolutely. He was captured on a battlefield in Afghanistan after killing a medic...where else should he be? He should be thankful he isn't dead. More than likely he will be released to Canadian custody and will probably be able to return to society in 10 or 20 years.
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And you call yourself a Christian, Keltoi! Your opinions are hateful and bigoted!
Is this the attitude that Jesus would have had?

Matthew ch 25 vs 40:

... 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

God is compassionated and merciful. You're statements are self-righteous, judgemental and ignorant.

May God have mercy upon you!

Omar Khadr was a child soldier, and whatever he may or may not have done, the United Nations mandate is that all child soldiers are to be rescued and rehabilitated.

If we can do this for child soldiers in Africa and South East Asia, why do we not offer Omar the same compassion?

Venomous opinions such as yours make me want to vomit!
 
May Allah swt Increase his Iman and keep him strong.
As reported in Al-Bukhari, Abu Hurairah narrated that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "No fatigue, nor disease, nor sorrow, nor sadness, nor hurt, nor distress befalls a Muslim, even if it were the prick he receives from a thorn, but that Allah expiates some of his sins for that."

What does one expect when Psychologists from The American Psychological Association are involved in these operations?
 
Pygoscelis said:
So... its not for muslim torture only. Its for torture of others too? lol
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It isn't for torture of anyone. Waterboarding and other methods were used on Khalid Sheik Mohammed and I'm sure others, but the use of the word torture is for shock value and drama. Torture was Abu Ghraib, and the U.S. deserves to be blamed and held accountable for that. Gitmo is a detention facility for enemy combatants. The same kind of place used to house German POWs in WWII. Although legally we can't call them POWs because they don't represent a nation state.
 
Sarada said:
And you call yourself a Christian, Keltoi! Your opinions are hateful and bigoted!
Is this the attitude that Jesus would have had?

Matthew ch 25 vs 40:

... 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

God is compassionated and merciful. You're statements are self-righteous, judgemental and ignorant.

May God have mercy upon you!

Omar Khadr was a child soldier, and whatever he may or may not have done, the United Nations mandate is that all child soldiers are to be rescued and rehabilitated.

If we can do this for child soldiers in Africa and South East Asia, why do we not offer Omar the same compassion?

Venomous opinions such as yours make me want to vomit!
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Yes, if the world lived by the example of Jesus Christ there wouldn't be wars to begin with. As for being self-righteous, hateful, and bigoted, I find that remark to be a little hypocritical.

Furthermore, child soldiers in Africa and elsewhere aren't responsible for the death of a member of the U.S. military during war time. The fact that he was young is probably the only reason he is still alive. Rehabilitation should be a goal obviously, and that will happen after his sentencing.
 
ayesha309 said:
even the Red Cross says gitmo used torture
watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3PvIFx-WDE
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You're wasting your breath trying to have discussions like this with Keltoi. It doesn't matter what the Muslims said about Abu Ghraib, it was disqualified as "propaganda" stories and no one took it seriously until well AFTER the proof was leaked over the internet. Even so, Keltoi would say it's a "rare" occurance that doesn't matter in light of what Muslims do to themselves. He ALWAYS justifies this crap. The Red Cross and other qualified organizations can come foward too, but it means NOTHING to him. He has all the answers he needs, so I'm going to give you some good advice.

Don't waste your time arguing to a brick wall. For all the time and energy you wasted here debating with this brick wall, you could have been writing letters to some of these groups asking them what you can do to help THEIR cause. Pick and choose your battles more carefully so you can be sure your energy goes to situations you can change. There are tons of American groups who oppose Gitmo and you should be looking them up online and writing THEM! You do NOT need Keltois approval and you'll never get it no matter what you say, so just go over his head.

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I agree with you, Ninth.

The best thing we can do is to join together and put pressure on our governments. As a Canadian, I will write to as many Canadian government officials as I can.

I hope Americans will do the same.

I should know better than to let Keltoi provoke me to anger. Anger never solved anything. Standing up and being counted for a just cause CAN effect positive change.
 
Sarada said:
I agree with you, Ninth.

The best thing we can do is to join together and put pressure on our governments. As a Canadian, I will write to as many Canadian government officials as I can.

I hope Americans will do the same.

I should know better than to let Keltoi provoke me to anger. Anger never solved anything. Standing up and being counted for a just cause CAN effect positive change.
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Agree 100% let's spend our time on something which will help this poor child.
 
I agree Keltoi is very agressive, Not Christian like at all. I bet he's the kind who are memebers of Jesus Camp, who worship Dubya, and think all the worlds relgions are wrong, and they sould all convert to Christainity! - I depise such people.
 
Izyan said:
And hundreds of thousands killed by fellow muslims.
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It's a war, ifyou side with the enemy you become the enemy! - Sadly you'll get a few innocent people die, but that's just collateral damage.

Invaders take over your country, and other Islamic countries watch and do nothing. They should have united and taken on the USA, they'd then think twice about going into foreign lands! :mad:
 

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