Canadian teenager cries in Guantanamo interrogation video

[Izyan]

and are you sure they did that? because had there actually been proof of that, they wouldnt be at home but would have been arrested and put under trial!

Actually his father and his brother has been arrested and under trial

 

[Fishman]

And do you have proof his parents were friends with bin laden and sent him to help al qaeda? refer to my post above

The article in the other thread about this issue says so, and there are videos that have been found showing him playing with explosives that the family were using. Although the only evidence comes from US sources, I bet you don't have anything better.

I dont know why he was there,Izyan you,yourself dont know why his family took him there and nor does fishman know, we are told by the media that he went there to fight

We don't know whether American soldiers disrespected the Quran in Gitmo for definite either. But its pretty hard to know anything for definite, so we have to take the evidence into account. At the moment, the evidence says that his family went there to help al-Qaeda. This might be faked, and there might be other evidence against this that we don't know about. But since we don't know that yet we have to judge on what we do know.

 

[Cabdullahi]

Actually his father and his brother has been arrested and under trial

A country that brings hypocrisy will not bring democracy, no chance!

47 women and children killed and there is no one that would bring justice and imprison those that did this,and we come here argue and fight about a 15 year old boy,'he deserves it'! 'no his mother deserves to be punished' as if he is a vile and vulturous war criminal

 

[Keltoi]

Didn't I hear about a month ago something about him maybe not being the one who killed that soldier? Has he had any sort of trial yet? We surely can't conclude he killed that medic without any evidence of that.

I certainly haven't heard that, but perhaps. I'm sure there were plenty of eyewitnesses if that guy was a medic. Medics usually don't go into warzones by themselves.

 

[Cabdullahi]

We don't know whether American soldiers disrespected the Quran in Gitmo for definite either. But its pretty hard to know anything for definite, so we have to take the evidence into account. At the moment, the evidence says that his family went there to help al-Qaeda. This might be faked, and there might be other evidence against this that we don't know about. But since we don't know that yet we have to judge on what we do know.

So what!! the CIA also helped alqaeda against the soviets. you know what that means it means they can fight the soviets against invasion but when america invades afghanistan and they retaliate atomatically they become terrorists. utter crap! america doesnt own the people!!!

 

[Fishman]

So what!! the CIA also helped alqaeda against the soviets. you know what that means it means they can fight the soviets against invasion but when america invades afghanistan and they retaliate atomatically they become terrorists. utter crap! america doesnt own the people!!!

They were terrorists before the invasion of Afganistan. The USA funds terrorist organisations when its in their interests.

 

[Cabdullahi]

They were terrorists before the invasion of Afganistan. The USA funds terrorist organisations when its in their interests.

Even margaret thatcher used to applaud the mujahideen ,the same mujahideen that they are fighting now. sh@t is twisted there are many things that only allah knows, that is hidden from us

 

[Fishman]

Even margaret thatcher used to applaud the mujahideen ,the same mujahideen that they are fighting now. sh@t is twisted there are many things that only allah knows, that is hidden from us

I bet if the 'Iron Witch' was the PM today she would be straight off with Bush and the Republicans to war in Afganistan and Iraq.

 

[ayesha309]

Keltoi you honestly live under a closed world full of american propoganda. if you think there were/are no abuses done in gitmo, then ur a hopeless person who honestly needs to wake up. I pray Allah gives you hidaya

His father is dead, his one older bro is in a candian prison facing extradition to gitmo.

his other older bro was in gitmo, is out now. is not doing the right things. i think he even made a documentary or something about his life.

his older sister is "stuck" in canada. (her passport has been confiscated by the canadian gov't and has not been released to her, therefore she is "stuck")

this boy is a child soldier needs to be freed. he has faced ruthless tortures, inhumane treatment, has been shot at while in gitmo, his one eye was damaged while in afghanistan, but becuase of lack of medical treatment in gitmo, he has lost eye sight from that eye. his other eye has been damaged while in gitmo. i believe he was shot twice while in gitmo (once near the lungs) he has been used as a human mop to clean his own urine, excretment. he has faced and perhaps continues to face other such ruthless tortures. dont tell me this is "humane treatment".
like i said, the canadian government will most probably let him stay in gitmo becuase the current canadian conservative gov't worships the US and wont do anything against their will.

its interesting how the soldier who he supposedly killd (no evidcne to prove it yet) is often called a medic.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic..._from_an_al_qaeda_childhood_to_a_gitmo_cell/9

http://www.nightslantern.ca/law/omarkhadr.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/guantanamo/

 

[Musaafirah]

Even margaret thatcher used to applaud the mujahideen ,the same mujahideen that they are fighting now. sh@t is twisted there are many things that only allah knows, that is hidden from us

I know this is off topic, but can i ask how'd you know Margaret Thatcher applauded the Mujahideen. Do you have any quotes?(If I sound rude, I don't mean to be)

 

[Keltoi]

Keltoi you honestly live under a closed world full of american propoganda. if you think there were/are no abuses done in gitmo, then ur a hopeless person who honestly needs to wake up. I pray Allah gives you hidaya

His father is dead, his one older bro is in a candian prison facing extradition to gitmo.

his other older bro was in gitmo, is out now. is not doing the right things. i think he even made a documentary or something about his life.

his older sister is "stuck" in canada. (her passport has been confiscated by the canadian gov't and has not been released to her, therefore she is "stuck")

this boy is a child soldier needs to be freed. he has faced ruthless tortures, inhumane treatment, has been shot at while in gitmo, his one eye was damaged while in afghanistan, but becuase of lack of medical treatment in gitmo, he has lost eye sight from that eye. his other eye has been damaged while in gitmo. i believe he was shot twice while in gitmo (once near the lungs) he has been used as a human mop to clean his own urine, excretment. he has faced and perhaps continues to face other such ruthless tortures. dont tell me this is "humane treatment".
like i said, the canadian government will most probably let him stay in gitmo becuase the current canadian conservative gov't worships the US and wont do anything against their will.

its interesting how the soldier who he supposedly killd (no evidcne to prove it yet) is often called a medic.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic..._from_an_al_qaeda_childhood_to_a_gitmo_cell/9

http://www.nightslantern.ca/law/omarkhadr.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/guantanamo/

The soldier was called a medic because that is what he was. A Special Forces medic.

As for the rest of that, it is not true. He was not shot at Gitmo, he was shot in Afghanistan. He was near death from injuries when they took him into custody.

 

[Cabdullahi]

I know this is off topic, but can i ask how'd you know Margaret Thatcher applauded the Mujahideen. Do you have any quotes?(If I sound rude, I don't mean to be)

nah sister you dont sound rude,you sound like you are hungry for knowledge ..thats all

Look margaret was with ronald reagan and she backed his ideas that the soviets were to be fought and defeated so therefore they used the mujahideen to do all the dirty work while they funded them.. so technically she was a supporter

 

[Amadeus85]

Even margaret thatcher used to applaud the mujahideen ,the same mujahideen that they are fighting now. sh@t is twisted there are many things that only allah knows, that is hidden from us

Americans and Nato forces now fight aganst Talebans, not Mujahedeens.They are two different groups if im not mistaken. Didint talebans and mujahedeens fight in 90's about power in Afghanistan?
It is sad but true but countries have their national interests and they often make alliances with "enemies of their enemies". Just like USA supported mujahedeens in their fight against Soviet Union.
The same way Iran and Syria make buisness with Putin's Russia which killed 100 000 muslims in Chechenia and whole muslim world makes buisness with China which kills muslim Uighurs since dozens of years.
This is brutal but this is life.

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Well, at least it's known now, not like it was a secret. USA brings it all upon itself, then stands back all bewildered, wondering erm why us. What have we done to inccur bombings in our country!

Al - Queda have added 6 more USA soldiers to the body count today...

 

[Cabdullahi]

Americans and Nato forces now fight aganst Talebans, not Mujahedeens.They are two different groups if im not mistaken. Didint talebans and mujahedeens fight in 90's about power in Afghanistan?
It is sad but true but countries have their national interests and they often make alliances with "enemies of their enemies". Just like USA supported mujahedeens in their fight against Soviet Union.
The same way Iran and Syria make buisness with Putin's Russia which killed 100 000 muslims in Chechenia and whole muslim world makes buisness with China which kills muslim Uighurs since dozens of years.
This is brutal but this is life.

So where are the mujahideen now, when i say mujahideen i am talking about ayman azawahri,osama and many others, they support the taleban and those who were part of the mujahideen in the eiighties and nineties are a part of the taleban now! thats what the media tells us

 

[ayesha309]

The soldier was called a medic because that is what he was. A Special Forces medic.

As for the rest of that, it is not true. He was not shot at Gitmo, he was shot in Afghanistan. He was near death from injuries when they took him into custody.

once again you ignore facts and live in your propoganda world. you have no proof that he wasnt tortured. bush is knows for his lies. rusmfield was known for his lies. ther is a reson why bush is voted as the worst president in american history and rumsifeld was almost kiked out. you're gona follow and listen to such liars?? try to get more authentic info before stating useless stuff. even gitmo guards have admited they have tortued detainees. i honestly dont know wher u get ur thinking from.

 

[Keltoi]

once again you ignore facts and live in your propoganda world. you have no proof that he wasnt tortured. bush is knows for his lies. rusmfield was known for his lies. ther is a reson why bush is voted as the worst president in american history and rumsifeld was almost kiked out. you're gona follow and listen to such liars?? try to get more authentic info before stating useless stuff. even gitmo guards have admited they have tortued detainees. i honestly dont know wher u get ur thinking from.

I have no proof that he wasn't tortured? Do you have proof that he was tortured? No.

 

[Keltoi]

Well, at least it's known now, not like it was a secret. USA brings it all upon itself, then stands back all bewildered, wondering erm why us. What have we done to inccur bombings in our country!

Al - Queda have added 6 more USA soldiers to the body count today...

What wisdom. Wanna know who else is on the body count? 6 children killed in a car bombing.

 

[Cabdullahi]

I have no proof that he wasn't tortured? Do you have proof that he was tortured? No.

The brother is right we have to reason with him because if a person goes into a shopping mall,you cant say this person has definetly bought something he/she might have looked around and just came out,its the same with the teenager hes in guantanamo but it might not be that he is tortured there.in that notion i agree with keltoi for the sake of argument but we have to be clear and ask ourselves what was gitmo created for?,at the end of the it was created for muslim torture only,

 

[Keltoi]

The brother is right we have to reason with him because if a person goes into a shopping mall,you cant say this person has definetly bought something he/she might have looked around and just came out,its the same with the teenager hes in guantanamo but it might not be that he is tortured there.in that notion i agree with keltoi for the sake of argument but we have to be clear and ask ourselves what was gitmo created for?,at the end of the it was created for muslim torture only,

I think it is a stretch to characterize it as a place created "for muslim torture only." It is a place to hold and interrogate enemy combatants. Those enemies come from predominantly Muslim countries. If we were at war in the Congo or Zimbabwe, it would be black detainees.