CANCER: Conventional Treatment vs Alternative (Natural) Treatment

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Sis, not enough evidence that these things work.

I have tried everything under the sun to treat my acne ... it never went away except those "poisonous" drugs such as accutane ..... and indeed what a poison. I was unlucky. But accutane has been a "miracle drug" for couple of people I personally know. They took it in way more dosage than I did ... they just had good qadr.

Bro, you say you tried everything under the sun but does that include a consultation with a qualified holistic practitioner, or just remedies recommended by others. Holistic med is unique in that no one treatment can be prescribed for two people with the same symptoms. If you go to a doctor with a headache, you'll get the same pills as the next person with the headache even though the cause of headache might be different. A holistic practitioner will try to determine and address the cause. Remember symptoms themselves aren't a disease but a warning bell as well as the bodies attempts to heal itself - a natural mechanism which holistic med supports, boosts and brings healing. Modern med on the other hand tries to suppress the symptoms while all the time the disease can be advancing. How many people have gone to the doctors, only to be given one medication after another until finally nothing seems to work and then tests finally reveal they were seriously ill. :\

I know about accutane. I'm sorry it harmed you. May Allah protect you and reverse the damage it caused. Ameen. I found forums full of people who had eye problems after taking occutane. Al hamdulillah, it's now been withdrawn.
 


If you go to a doctor with a headache, you'll get the same pills as the next person with the headache even though the cause of headache might be different..

Sister, sob7an Allah, how could you make such a blanket statement like that?
firstly the causes of headaches can be anything from a TIA to TTP to ITP, to temporal arteritis a GBM to a cluster headache.. even headaches themselves which are just plain headaches, like cluster, migraine, tension and not secondary to something else receive different treatments. You're under the impression that people won't give 'Natural' a chance for whatever reasons you've created in your mind, yet come in with such unseasoned and completely untrue aruments against conventional medicine, so how can you expect anyone to take what is written her seriousely? How would a 'hollistic doctor' distinguish the difference even between an ITP and TTP and especially when you have seconds to save a patient's life.. can he or she even assess the gravity of a headache when anything from blindness to death can be associated with it?

la 7wala wla qiwta illa billah
 
Anyway sis منوة الخيال, I've wasted enough time on these threads and I am not used to writing so much as I'm slow and it takes me ages to write one post. It doesn't matter if we don't agree, what matters is that we don't let it affect our love and sincerity for each other. I generally hate debates/arguments which go on and on as I feel the shaytaan gets involved and they aren't of any real use to our deen dunya and akhirah anyway. Please forgive me if I've offended you in anyway, and may Allah forgive me too. Ameen. :)
 
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Sister, sob7an Allah, how could you make such a blanket statement like that?
firstly the causes of headaches can be anything from a TIA to TTP to ITP, to temporal arteritis a GBM to a cluster headache.. even headaches themselves which are just plain headaches, like cluster, migraine, tension and not secondary to something else receive different treatments. You're under the impression that people won't give 'Natural' a chance for whatever reasons you've created in your mind, yet come in with such unseasoned and completely untrue aruments against conventional medicine, so how can you expect anyone to take what is written her seriousely? How would a 'hollistic doctor' distinguish the difference even between an ITP and TTP and especially when you have seconds to save a patient's life.. can he or she even assess the gravity of a headache when anything from blindness to death can be associated with it?

la 7wala wla qiwta illa billah

I'm sorry I offended you sis. I wanted out of this thread but you seemed so offended I had to reply. It may be different where you are. But here we get paracetamol as the standard headache pill. After that it's Ibuprofen and co-codamol. Hope you understand why I said what I did. I didn't meant to offend. I'm sorry. I was just speaking from what been seeing happening all my life and to others I know.
 
I was meant to get eye issues, God gave them via accutane. My friends took more dosage of accutane, he never got eye issues.

It is just qadr, we cant do anything about it.
 
Anyway sis منوة الخيال, I've wasted enough time on these threads and I am not used to writing so much as I'm slow and it takes me ages to write one post. It doesn't matter if we don't agree, what matters is that we don't let it affect our love and sincerity for each other. I generally hate debates/arguments which go on and on as I feel the shaytaan gets involved and they aren't of any real use to our deen dunya and akhirah anyway. Please forgive me if I've offended you in anyway, and may Allah forgive me too. Ameen. :)
How can a topic affect our kinship? I was just discussing with another sis how I am hopeful that I didn't hurt your feelings in anyway.. You just have to understand that I am deeply saddened and it isn't something I can help... I feel disappointed and sad with many of the things that transpired today on the forum.. But if one sees something they perceive to be wrong they must change it.. and it isn't something that I felt could remain in my heart..

I hope you have a great evening in shaa Allah.. if you look above at my choice, you'd see that I chose that I don't know because I'd assess it. Obviously I wouldn't make the same decision for a papillary vs anaplastic thyroid cancer. Both of the same organ one with a 95% cure rate and the other with a very poor prognosis. It is a decision not to be made lightly and that's all I am saying. I have seen people drop around me like flies. My dad's friend just died two days ago. He had stomach cancer. He forgo treatment and opted for palliative care. He did have to have surgery to improve quality of life.. even with all the advanced we have in science we win some and we lose some but that is just a balance and the story of life.. we should go at life fighting hard when it calls for a fight..

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منوة الخيال;1527376 said:
we should go at life fighting hard when it calls for a fight..

I think it seems to us that way when we are healthy. When we are in the battered position when life is calling us to fight, we might not have the strong feelings or the desire to fight back. I think ppl should die in whatever way they want to, provided they are capable. If forgoing treatment is what they want after all options have been explained to them, then so be it.
 
I think it seems to us that way when we are healthy. When we are in the battered position when life is calling us to fight, we might not have the strong feelings or the desire to fight back. I think ppl should die in whatever way they want to, provided they are capable. If forgoing treatment is what they want after all options have been explained to them, then so be it.

autonomy is the principal & ethics upon which medicine stands and it is one of the things that make it appealing plus its changing nature and I am by nature a lover of science. I can understand not wanting to fight but we're in this life for the fight whether we like it or not until we breathe our last.. Health is one of those things Allah swt will ask us about as it is indeed the greatest gift... Everything is better appreciated by the stark contrast of not having it from my personal experience.. it humbles the soul & with any luck draws it closer to its lord..

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This thread was opened for a general discussion about cancer treatments, and especially to raise awareness about treatments Big Pharma are trying to shut down and prevent other people from knowing.

Many of us have lost our dear ones to cancer and other illnesses, and the statistics are rising every day, despite advances in modern science. This should make us more so serious about questioning the current mainstream approaches to illnesses, and investigate other possible treatments with an open mind, instead of rigidly sticking to what we have been trained and taught to believe via medical schools heavily influenced by the financial interests of drug industries.

I am sorry if anyone is offended by these statements, but it is the truth we need to wake up to.

The majority of people, especially those in authority and power only care about making money and the few sincere doctors who are aware and have tried to bring the truth out are labelled quacks and locked away. It is the same with those who try to raise awareness about one God, they are labelled terrorists and also locked away.

The governments are allowing our environments and foods to become more contaminated and toxic. They are interfering in the natural creation of Allaah and exposing the population to more and more carcinogens and chemicals. The more ‘advanced’ country you live in, the more worse it gets and the more diseases people are coming down with.

Instead of doing something about all these pollutants and health hazards, they are introducing more and more drugs into the market as the only solution to make people better, resulting in people becoming more and more dependent upon drugs to sustain themselves in the current climate. Even though there is health awareness, most people are unaware of proper nutrition and the role it plays in preventing and treating disease.

Natural medicines are under attack and accused of being ‘unscientific’ – by the same people who say belief in God is also unscientific.

Tell me, if a fish is ill because of contaminated and polluted water, what is unscientific about cleaning the water? What is unscientific about removing the harm? That is all what naturopathic doctors are trying to raise awareness about. Get to the root cause, remove the harm first, and stop the wrong that the person is doing in their diet, lifestyle and environment. If we do not do this, it does not matter what else we do or what drug or herbs or supplement we give – it will be of little help.

It would be like trying to shovel the snow away while it is still snowing – we would fail and this is what is happening in our battles against cancer and other diseases.

Until we do not get to the root cause and remove the harm first, we will be forced to control the symptoms and disease with drugs alone and carry on being dependent upon them for the rest of our lives.

We are not opposed to doctors – it’s not their fault – many of them are sincere, but uninformed of how naturopathic medicine works.

People don’t have to agree with me here, but no one has the right to label naturopathic doctors as quacks and shut them up because they use a different approach which is working well enough for the drug industries to feel threatened by. Big Pharma are the ones dividing and sowing mistrust. They are the ones damaging doctor/patient relationships.

And if you are waiting for the FDA to declare the efficacy and safety of such treatments, then it’s like waiting for the American Government to declare Dr. Aafia Siddique’s innocence. Wake up people, THEY WILL NOT DO IT. We are fighting a war here – between truth and lies.
 
^^^^I want proof that Natural medicines help cancer patients. By proof I want research conducted to indicate such treatment are better or equal to conventional treatment. Surely those that support natural medicine have conducted research?

Healthy lifestyle is something doctors and most health profession promote all the time! Most health services have Dieticians that specifically looks that the food patient eats and what changes they can make to facilitate their treatment and well being!
 
As for the toxic in our food, DOCTORS have been complaining about that before it became a problem. And the leading campaigners against obesity and food industry are doctors. And research that highlights the harmful effects of our foods are carried out by the same medical researchers that support and gathered evidence for conventional treatment.

The Men Who Made Us Fat Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE-H__aIEFE

The Men Who Made Us Fat Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4-Xztw7tOY&feature=relmfu

The Men Who Made Us Fat Part three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UaUQ0H8crQ&feature=relmfu

The Men Who Made Us Fat Part four
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ptyXd1fbQ&feature=relmfu
 
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May I ask in this thread, sister منوة الخيال and brother Cosmic Pathos excluded, how many here are healthcare professionals or work with people with cancer on a daily basis, have studied it's molecular pathways and patterns of progession, have contact with pharma on a regular basis, and are fans of tibb nabawi and treatment of disease with diet and lifestyle changes where possible? It's interesting to know where people are coming from.

This should make us more so serious about questioning the current mainstream approaches to illnesses, and investigate other possible treatments with an open mind, instead of rigidly sticking to what we have been trained and taught to believe via medical schools heavily influenced by the financial interests of drug industries.

Only saw this now. Are you in med school or have you qualified now?

The majority of people, especially those in authority and power only care about making money and the few sincere doctors who are aware and have tried to bring the truth out are labelled quacks and locked away.

It is strange that some alternative medicine practitioners can only bring the success stories to the public's attention, and do not publish full statistics. There may be 20 success stories from one clinic, but for each of those, how many died? It may be the case that for each success, 19 people die. Yet nobody will ever know this. It is interesting how they are portrayed as these poor honest doctors in a big ugly game, but where is the openness and honesty from them? If we're going to preach about making people aware of the other options so that they can make informed choices, where is the rest of the information on the success (or lack thereof) of the approach they are advocating? It is withheld (in the link at least). That is not an informed choice. Indeed by some it could be construed as misleading or deception. In clinical trials, the good the bad and the downright ugly are all reported. Eg hopes are sometimes high for a certain drug, then it undergoes a trial, and it turns out that it was detrimental compared to the control group. It all gets reported.

It is the same with those who try to raise awareness about one God, they are labelled terrorists and also locked away.

How can you compare people who promote alternative medicine with those that raise awareness about Allah? This is an awful comparison(not that it can be called one) to make and simply untrue. We shouldn't let our enthusiasm for something make us make false statements like that. Do you know what happens to people labelled terrorist? Locked away in solitary confinement, mental and physical torture, sleep deprivation, never seeing their relatives again in some cases, and females like Aafia Siddiqui being raped on an almost daily basis? How can you compare that to an alternative medicine practitioner? This is demeaning and insulting to our brothers and sisters who are unjustly locked away all over the world.

Even though there is health awareness, most people are unaware of proper nutrition and the role it plays in preventing and treating disease.

Nobody is against this or saying it shouldn't be done. Indeed we had a TV series here called The Food Hospital, where alternative medicine practioners in conjunction with doctors treated patients together, not against each other as is being thrown around here, no conspiracy theories in sight. For patients on medicines, it was not advocated that they suddenly stop and use the alternative medicine route alone. Once they gained some in their condition, some were gradually able to reduce/stop their meds, and continue with diet and lifetyle changes. For those not already on meds and with certain conditions, diet and lifestyle changes were used alone. It shouldn't be about pitting one against the other, with conspiracy theories and accusations thrown around, but about working together for the betterment of the patient. I know alternative medicine practitioners who would never advocate to cancer patients if asked, to go the alternative route alone, as well as medical doctors who now specialise and practice solely in alternative medicine, but work in partnership with oncologists.

Natural medicines are under attack and accused of being ‘unscientific’ – by the same people who say belief in God is also unscientific.

Many that work in pharma are Muslims, so presumably they would be included amongst those who you say, say that belief in God is unscientific? I would seriously question how far your "enthusiasm" for this will go in making false analogies and statements about your fellow Muslims.

People don’t have to agree with me here, but no one has the right to label naturopathic doctors as quacks and shut them up because they use a different approach which is working well enough for the drug industries to feel threatened by. Big Pharma are the ones dividing and sowing mistrust. They are the ones damaging doctor/patient relationships.

I am utterly bewildered as to where these statements are coming from.

We are fighting a war here – between truth and lies.

I see you are. Good luck with your war, your "truth" against everybody elses "lies", while most try to work together wherever possible. The things that is of most detriment to the patient at the end of the day, is this so-called "war" by those who want it to be one. Nobody's saying don't research alternative/complementary therapies, even doctors use diet and lifestyle for certan conditions, after which meds get started alongside if that does not work on it's own. Use them wherever possible, alongside conventional treatments, having checked they will not affect each other, and on their own once the evidence is transparent and solid.

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منوة الخيال;1527376 said:

How can a topic affect our kinship? I was just discussing with another sis how I am hopeful that I didn't hurt your feelings in anyway.. You just have to understand that I am deeply saddened and it isn't something I can help... I feel disappointed and sad with many of the things that transpired today on the forum.. But if one sees something they perceive to be wrong they must change it.. and it isn't something that I felt could remain in my heart..

I hope you have a great evening in shaa Allah..

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:sl: Ukhti, Well I chicken away from discussions in which I fear might lead to any type of negative feelings at all. We are all only human after all, and recently there's been so much harshness on the forum that it's upset me too. We all have different experiences and knowledge which we base our opinions on, and others don't have to agree and I respect that.

And no I had a wretched second weekend from lack of sleep due to partying down the road. Hence being online so many hours. But thank you for hoping for me anyway :)
 


I'm sorry I offended you sis. I wanted out of this thread but you seemed so offended I had to reply. It may be different where you are. But here we get paracetamol as the standard headache pill. After that it's Ibuprofen and co-codamol. Hope you understand why I said what I did. I didn't meant to offend. I'm sorry. I was just speaking from what been seeing happening all my life and to others I know.

Sis, I understand what you are saying. I am not against all doctors but where I live, it seems like I am the one telling the doctor how to cure me. This has not happened once but many times which is why I feel like its better to do the research by myself including the ways to cure as well. Plus I feel like doctors jump from one medicine to another which can have bad side effects.
Its very difficult to describe what I think about medicines vs traditional methods. And I also don't want to offend anyone on this board as to what I think so I will leave it at that.
 
I am utterly bewildered as to where these statements are coming from.
ukhtee, you need to watch the full documentary about the forbidden cancer cures and have some background knowledge about naturopathic medicine in order to understand where I am coming from.

Please bear with me until my exams finish inshaAllaah. Jazak Allaah Khayr for your patience.

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What was the combination of herbs that the lady in the video used to cure it??
It's in the cancer report.

http://healthwyze.org/index.php/com...ideo-the-cancer-report-has-been-released.html

As for the toxic in our food, DOCTORS have been complaining about that before it became a problem. And the leading campaigners against obesity and food industry are doctors.
Im not against doctors ukhtee. The ones who are successfully treating cancer without orthodox methods are also doctors.

I've seen this documentary, Jazak Allaah Khayr for posting it here. This is exactly what we are trying to raise awareness about. Powerful Industries, concerned more about their dollars than about the health of the nation. Who is allowing them?

When Dr John Yudkin spoke against the massive sugar industry highlighting the impact sugar was having on the health of the population, the sugar industry lobbied against him. His work was "discredited" and he was accused of not having enough "data". Similar to what the Drug Industries are doing. But, with the drug industry playing the same game, it's even more dangerous because that is considered "MEDICINE".

At the end of the day it all comes down to one thing: Money

منوة الخيال;1527248 said:
they didn't have the diseases that we have now then to use the things you suggest then for now.

Do you mean that the Prophetic Medicine cannot be used for the diseases we have today or do you mean that it can be used today but only for particular diseases or ailments? If so, which ailments do you believe can be cured from the medicines mentioned by the Prophet :arabic5: ?


Please clarify.
 
Worth further research:

Dr. Johanna Budwig. She left us in 2003, at the ripe age of 95, but she looked like she was in her 70's. She was nominated six times for the Nobel Prize for medicine. Did we mention that she cured cancer ― not treated ― but cured it in "terminally ill" patients; even patients which the establishment had surrendered to fate, claimed were "untreatable", and gave a death sentence to? We're not talking about specific or rare types of cancer either. She cured whatever type of cancer that was thrown at her, and she did it relatively quickly, cheaply, easily, and permanently; using non-toxic ingredients, which were without any side-effects whatsoever. Her medicine actually made her patients stronger, and her cure rate was over 90%, including the worst "terminal" cases. You read that right; we did indeed say that her permanent cure rate was over 90%. Did we mention no side-effects? Dr. Bugwig's successes greatly contrast the facts that the life-long cure rate from standard chemotherapy is less than 4% for most types of cancer, and that chemotherapy is known to cause future cancers. We have not mentioned the most incredible aspect that is still being suppressed by the lucrative cancer industry: Dr. Budwig's secret weapons against cancer were common cottage cheese and flax seed oil. She quickly became enemy #1 to the pharmaceutical and nuclear industries. They did not like the prospect of people having the choice between their debilitating and bankrupting treatments, or simply opening their refrigerator for a cure. They have been so effective at suppressing her Noble Prize worthy work, that for many of our readers, this will be their first instance of learning of the good doctor, or her famous Budwig Diet. Her bombshell findings were first published in the early 1950's. Anyone want to make a bet as to when major networks like Fox News and ABC News are going to cover this story? We're betting never. They're team players.

Cancer is essentially a modern man-made disease. There is evidence of it existing in ancient history, but cancer was extremely rare in ancient history, except in cities with cases of mass poisoning (again a man-made disease). Now, cancer is expected to strike one person out of every three, and this rate is rising rapidly.

Toxins, radiation, and acidosis are the unholy trinity of cancer. The combined damage from toxins, radiation, malnutrition (often caused by pharmaceuticals), and illness leads to acidosis, which is the final stage of this misunderstood condition. When a person's body chemistry becomes acidic from the aforementioned factors, then his blood's ability to retain and carry oxygen is severely diminished. Healthy individuals have a blood oxygen level of between 98 and 100 as measured by a pulse oximeter, but cancer patients routinely show around 60. Oxygen is replaced in a cancer patient's blood with wastes such as carbon dioxide. The oxygen starvation caused by acidosis leads to the formation of tumors as cells must mutate to derive their energy from a fermentation process. Normal cells obtain energy from oxygen, but oxygen-starved cells must mutate to using a type of direct sugar fermentation, which is really the body's self defense. Of course, this is not as "clean" as oxygen-based energy, and the waste products of fermentation build in the tissues causing even higher toxicity. Eventually the entire immune system is debilitated by the process of cleaning these wastes, so that it can no longer cope with the removal of unhealthy cells. This allows the cancer cells to multiply and spread unchecked to create the symptom of tumors, which is in the latter stages of this process.

All the above was proved by Dr. Otto Warburg, and he won the Nobel Prize for it in 1931. Funny you've never heard about it, huh? Are you still walking for the cure? Don't worry, we felt horribly suckered when we learned too. Meanwhile, the industry is still murdering people for profit, while "searching for the cure".

Most cancer cures (not treatments) involve adjusting the body's pH beyond neutral, and into an alkaline state. In the alkaline state, human blood is rich in oxygen, and this same oxygen is poisonous to all mutated cancer (fermenting) cells. Oxygen is, of course, harmless to healthy cells ― and we're not going into that whole free radical thing here ― except to say that oxygen is never an issue with a healthy (anti-cancer) diet. Whilst naturally mocked by the industry, the generalized anti-cancer alkalizing diets are effective, and certainly merit further reading.

http://healthwyze.org/index.php/the-budwig-diet-curing-cancer-with-cottage-cheese.html

Dr Otto Warburg methods involved detailed studies on the assimilation of carbon dioxide in plants, the metabolism of tumors, and the chemical constituent of the oxygen transferring respiratory ferment. Read more about his biography here:

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1931/warburg-bio.html
 
Do you mean that the Prophetic Medicine cannot be used for the diseases we have today or do you mean that it can be used today but only for particular diseases or ailments? If so, which ailments do you believe can be cured from the medicines mentioned by the Prophet ?


Please clarify.
It depends on what you mean by prophetic medicine.
I don't see anything that should preclude from using honey or black seed but not as the sole mean of treatment - as an adjuvant sure.. there's no harm in that as sole treatment then no, unless we're speaking of palliative care.
The prophet PBUH didn't offer black seed & honey as a curative treatment for the lady who had seizures when she asked him to supplicate for her- did he?
We will be asked of our health (as of one of the gift Allah swt bestowed upon us) on the day of recompense.. I'd really think long & hard of forgoing tried & true medicine!

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On a Separate note, I'd like to add that one should think of the religion of Islam when asking people to use either weapons from millenniums ago, or medicine that old as well.
Consider what a radically post modern religion Islam is and how that explained its original appeal and its current popularity.
We're not speaking of the fundamentals of worship that is a done deal. We're speaking of everyday life. Everyday medicine everyday warfare. The prophet PBUH used to send troops out to see what the Romans are using and to try to make similar or better equipments. I have actually written about that in another unrelated thread. Don't go meeting a monster sized enemy whether cancer or Zionists with pea sized weapons!
Furthermore, if we don't like what pharm companies are doing why don't we make our own? It has actually been done such as with the Aspirin factory in Sudan that the U.S bombed.. they want us sick and backwards and we're basically enabling them.. and that's terrible & really something to think about!

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Worth further research:

Did we mention that she cured cancer ― not treated ― but cured it in "terminally ill" patients; even patients which the establishment had surrendered to fate, claimed were "untreatable", and gave a death sentence to? We're not talking about specific or rare types of cancer either. She cured whatever type of cancer that was thrown at her, and she did it relatively quickly, cheaply, easily, and permanently; using non-toxic ingredients, which were without any side-effects whatsoever. Her medicine actually made her patients stronger, and her cure rate was over 90%, including the worst "terminal" cases. You read that right; we did indeed say that her permanent cure rate was over 90%. Did we mention no side-effects?





Assalamu-alaikum,

Would you care to provide us with just some evidence for the above claims?


We are looking for:
- Some explanation for the mechanism of action of these proposed cures.
- Data from clinical trials that show clear benefit, improved survival and histological 'cure' from the cancer.

Ok.....for now we will even entertain an un-randomised, un-published, half-completed study to support these claims.......anything at all - apart from patient testimonials, web-site/ YT video promotions.

The thousands who read this thread deserve at least this......before you decide to promote any type of therapy, without taking due consideration to the dangers of spreading un-evidenced, unproven half-truths to everyone.

For now, lets quickly look at Dr Budwigs work:

Budwig protocol

The Budwig protocol (or Budwig diet) is an anti-cancer diet developed by Budwig in 1952. The diet is rich in flaxseed oil, mixed with cottage cheese and milk, and meals high in fruits, vegetables, and fiber. The diet also avoided sugar, animal fats, salad oil, meats, butter, and especially margarine.

She claimed that within 3 months, some patients on this diet had smaller tumors, some had no tumors left, and all felt better.

Evidence for the effectiveness of the Budwig diet is limited as most research has only been done on cell culture studies and experiments on rats and mice with inconsistent results.

Such studies suggest that flaxseed may possibly be beneficial for cancers in mice.

Some small studies have been done in humans which suggest flaxseed may be beneficial in reducing the risk of prostate cancer but more studies would be necessary to confirm any effects.

There is no reliable evidence available for the effectiveness of the full Budwig protocol.


Claimed Nobel Prize nomination


Proponents of the Budwig protocol often claim that she was nominated for a Nobel Prize either six[SUP][4][/SUP] or seven times.[SUP][5][/SUP]

However, the names of the nominees are never publicly announced, and neither are they told that they have been considered for the Prize. All nomination records for a prize are sealed for 50 years from the awarding of that prize.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] As there are no limits on nominations—any university professor in the world may nominate as many people as he or she chooses—thousands of people are nominated for these awards each year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanna_Budwig


Unless we are discussing the cure for rat/ mice cancers.......Insha Allah, that puts to rest Dr Budwig and her diet.



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