Candle For Peace

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Muezzin said:
Really, the fact that we're getting all hot and bothered over a candle is quite ridiculous. Let's stop being this way. :)
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Trust me, it is not the candle that i am getting hot and bothered over.

I am getting hot and bothered over self righteous people who try to use islam as a shield for their warped thoughts.
 
Muezzin said:
Thing is, 'lighting a candle', in the context of this thread, has nothing to do with belief.

I know brother Akulion well enough that he would never suggest Muslims give up prayer in favour of lighting a virtual candle. The spirit in which he started this thread was simply to allow people the opportunity to make a peaceful gesture. Please understand this, everyone, before throwing around accusations of innovation.

Really, the fact that we're getting all hot and bothered over a candle is quite ridiculous. Let's stop being this way. :)
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SORRY BROTHER,
I THINK A MUSLIM SHOULDN BE
"LIGHTING A CANDLE FOR THE SO CALLED PEACE"
THATS MY VIEW......:p

;)
 
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while i understand the gesture that people want to spread by lighting some cyber candle i want to say WE are the trend setters NOT the followers. lighting candles is not our way, is it the way of others and why should we follow them? lets do this OUR way.
 
My observations of hierarchical religions:

-- Each faith perceives itself to speak the ultimate one truth and never yields to the common good on its own.
-- No one can speak for the leaders except the leaders. All other voices will be found lacking.
-- Concessions to the "general good" require enlightenment.
-- Enlightenment will not change anything until it changes the leaders.

Peace and Conflict Resolution.Org is attempting an alternative path to peace built on the same universal hope and prayer symbolized by your candle of truth.

AG
 
Salam Alaikum

no wonder we are where we are

crazy really

I cant understand how people can be so strict towards lighting a candle for peace in a completely non religios context - with the argument that its imitating the kuffar

yet feel no objection what so ever at imitating the kuffar in all of the following (only a few listed):

- Using the internet
- Using a PC

Double standards are imposed very easily it seems where it suits the individuals - please be fair to others by being fair to yourself and question the double standards you set up. The world is not run by "do as I say and not as I do rules"

This simple idea caused this much ruckus, then really we have to question ourselves and ask "Are we the problem why peace cannot be achieved or is it something else?"

Anyways - I hope the mods close this thread and prevent any further arguments insha'Allah.
 
akulion said:
I cant understand how people can be so strict towards lighting a candle for peace in a completely non religios context - with the argument that its imitating the kuffar

yet feel no objection what so ever at imitating the kuffar in all of the following (only a few listed):

- Using the internet
- Using a PC
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Worrrrrd ;)

Also :

- Using toilet paper.

- Driving cars.

- Drinking Fizzy Drinks (Even the people who made mecca cola have copied the 'kuffr' ideas... ;) )

There you go people, something for you to work on.
 
Greetings in peace akulion;
This simple idea caused this much ruckus, then really we have to question ourselves and ask "Are we the problem why peace cannot be achieved or is it something else?"

Anyways - I hope the mods close this thread and prevent any further arguments insha'Allah
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Peace is a tough challenge, we must persevere despite all provocation and negative reaction. Peace almost demands that we keep making concessions.

I urge you all not to give up on seeking peace.

In the spirit of praying for peace on Earth

Eric
 
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I think these are the two matters which were raised:

1. Whether or not the act is an innovation.

Everything is Halal until proven Haram, but it's the opposite for ibadah. So you have to prove it's allowed. But no one is saying this is an act of worship, therefore that rules that out. So those of you who are saying it's an innovation, please bring forward your proof.

2. Whether or not the act is immitating the kuffar.

I recently read a piece regarding this issue, I'll look for the exact source inshaa'Allah (I think it was islaam.com). They basically discussed, what exactly is classed as 'immitating the kuffar'. If something is unique to a particular religion, and is practised by that religion, then it is not permissible to carry out that action. As we should defrentiate ourselves from them. Now the question is, is this action (of lighting candles for peace) specific to any religion? If so, please mention them.

If I have made an error please correct me inshaa'Allah, I'm a human, therefore able to make mistakes just like anyone else. I have put forward these views with sincerity, and I hope those who reply and also share their views will do so in a similar manner.

Jazaakallahu khayran.
 
- Using toilet paper.

- Driving cars.

- Drinking Fizzy Drinks (Even the people who made mecca cola have copied the 'kuffr' ideas... )

There you go people, something for you to work on.
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none of those these are anything to do with matters of worship
 
Daffodil said:
none of those these are anything to do with matters of worship
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Funny thing you should say that. Neither does clicking on a cyber candle as a way of showing support for peace. Considering Islam is all about promoting peace and tolerance I find it rather amusing to see the amount of effort put into denouncing a peaceful gesture.

Kinda sad actually.

I agree with Aku. It's time we took a much closer look at ourselves and ask why achieving peace seems out of reach.

I also think it's better to close the thread as it is no longer serving a useful purpose.

Wasalam,
Hana
 
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