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yeah, its not a matter of whos right or wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We could make things so much better for ourselves if everyone thought like u n me... I'm sure of it!!
Hey but one step at a time huh??
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well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT IS AMAZING HOW AL QAEDA CAN INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN THESE THINGS
Those who cure you will kill you
Deborah Haynes in Baghdad, Michael Evans and Adam Fresco
An al-Qaeda leader in Iraq boasted before last week’s failed bombings in London and Glasgow that his group was planning to attack British targets and that “those who cure you will kill you”, The Times has learnt.
The warning was delivered to Canon Andrew White, a senior British cleric working in Baghdad, and could be highly significant as the eight Muslims arrested in the wake of the failed plot are all members of the medical profession.
Canon White told The Times that he had passed the general warning, but not the specific words, to a senior official at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) in mid-April. A Foreign Office spokesman said last night that it was forwarding the actual words to the Metropolitan Police.
The Times also learnt yesterday that one of the suspects, the Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla, had links to radical Islamic groups, and that several of the eight suspects have now been linked to known extremist radicals listed on MI5’s data base. Canon White, who runs Baghdad’s only Anglican parish, said that he met the al-Qaeda leader on the fringes of a meeting about religious reconciliation held in Amman, the Jordanian capital.
“He talked to me about how they were going to destroy British and Americans. He told me that the plans were already made and they would soon be destroying the British. He said the people who cure you would kill you.”
The man, who was in his forties and had travelled from Syria for the meeting, said that the plans would come to fruition in the next few weeks and target the British first. He said that the British and Americans were being targeted because of their actions in Iraq. He did not learn the man’s identity until after the meeting, and will not disclose it now, but said: “I met the Devil that day.”
Separately, intelligence sources told The Times that Bilal Abdulla, 27, the Iraqi doctor involved in the Jeep attack last Saturday on Glasgow airport, had links to radical Islamic groups and was plotting a terrorist attack. They said that Dr Abdulla had met Mohammed Asha, 26, the Jor danian doctor arrested near Sandbach on Saturday night, through their fathers, who were friends. The two young doctors kept in touch after they came to Britain two or three years ago.
The eight suspects are all young, Muslim and connected to the medical profession. But they come from Jordan, Iraq, other Middle Eastern countries and India, and before now there had been no clue as to how they met in this country.
The last of the eight suspects to be arrested was named yesterday as Mohammed Haneef, 27, an Indian doctor working in Australia. He was taken into custody as he waited to make a one-way journey to India via Kuala Lumpur at Brisbane international airport on Monday night.
Australian police were also questioning Dr Haneef’s friend Mohammed Asif Ali, another Indian Muslim and fellow doctor. Both men had worked in hospitals in Liverpool before moving to Australia within a month of each other last autumn.
Two other Asian men were arrested in Blackburn yesterday after two deliveries of gas canisters to an industrial estate in the town. The men are being held at a police station in Lancashire on suspicion of offences under the Terrorism Act 2000, but police said it was too early to say whether the arrests were connected to the London and Glasgow attacks.
Police sources said that they believed they had now apprehended all the main suspects behind those attacks. The three Scottish suspects — Dr Abdulla and two men of Middle Eastern origin arrested at the Royal Alexandra Hospital near Glasgow on Sunday night — were moved yesterday to Paddington Green police station in West London. There they joined Dr Asha, his wife Marwa, and an unnamed 26-year-old man arrested in Liverpool on Saturday. Security sources said that they believed Dr Abdulla and the other man who drove the Jeep into Glasgow airport were also responsible for the failed car bombings in London on Friday.
The driver of the Jeep has not been officially arrested as he is critically ill in the Royal Alexandra Hospital with 90 per cent burns. Whitehall sources said that he might never be questioned as he was close to death.
Several of the suspects have now been linked to known extremist radicals listed on MI5’s data base. Security sources told The Times that none of them had been under surveillance as part of any counter-terrorist operation. The security sources said that although a number of the suspected plotters did feature on the data base, it was only in connection with general extremist activities.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2023024.ece
Those who cure you will kill you
Deborah Haynes in Baghdad, Michael Evans and Adam Fresco
An al-Qaeda leader in Iraq boasted before last week’s failed bombings in London and Glasgow that his group was planning to attack British targets and that “those who cure you will kill you”, The Times has learnt.
The warning was delivered to Canon Andrew White, a senior British cleric working in Baghdad, and could be highly significant as the eight Muslims arrested in the wake of the failed plot are all members of the medical profession.
Canon White told The Times that he had passed the general warning, but not the specific words, to a senior official at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) in mid-April. A Foreign Office spokesman said last night that it was forwarding the actual words to the Metropolitan Police.
The Times also learnt yesterday that one of the suspects, the Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla, had links to radical Islamic groups, and that several of the eight suspects have now been linked to known extremist radicals listed on MI5’s data base. Canon White, who runs Baghdad’s only Anglican parish, said that he met the al-Qaeda leader on the fringes of a meeting about religious reconciliation held in Amman, the Jordanian capital.
“He talked to me about how they were going to destroy British and Americans. He told me that the plans were already made and they would soon be destroying the British. He said the people who cure you would kill you.”
The man, who was in his forties and had travelled from Syria for the meeting, said that the plans would come to fruition in the next few weeks and target the British first. He said that the British and Americans were being targeted because of their actions in Iraq. He did not learn the man’s identity until after the meeting, and will not disclose it now, but said: “I met the Devil that day.”
Separately, intelligence sources told The Times that Bilal Abdulla, 27, the Iraqi doctor involved in the Jeep attack last Saturday on Glasgow airport, had links to radical Islamic groups and was plotting a terrorist attack. They said that Dr Abdulla had met Mohammed Asha, 26, the Jor danian doctor arrested near Sandbach on Saturday night, through their fathers, who were friends. The two young doctors kept in touch after they came to Britain two or three years ago.
The eight suspects are all young, Muslim and connected to the medical profession. But they come from Jordan, Iraq, other Middle Eastern countries and India, and before now there had been no clue as to how they met in this country.
The last of the eight suspects to be arrested was named yesterday as Mohammed Haneef, 27, an Indian doctor working in Australia. He was taken into custody as he waited to make a one-way journey to India via Kuala Lumpur at Brisbane international airport on Monday night.
Australian police were also questioning Dr Haneef’s friend Mohammed Asif Ali, another Indian Muslim and fellow doctor. Both men had worked in hospitals in Liverpool before moving to Australia within a month of each other last autumn.
Two other Asian men were arrested in Blackburn yesterday after two deliveries of gas canisters to an industrial estate in the town. The men are being held at a police station in Lancashire on suspicion of offences under the Terrorism Act 2000, but police said it was too early to say whether the arrests were connected to the London and Glasgow attacks.
Police sources said that they believed they had now apprehended all the main suspects behind those attacks. The three Scottish suspects — Dr Abdulla and two men of Middle Eastern origin arrested at the Royal Alexandra Hospital near Glasgow on Sunday night — were moved yesterday to Paddington Green police station in West London. There they joined Dr Asha, his wife Marwa, and an unnamed 26-year-old man arrested in Liverpool on Saturday. Security sources said that they believed Dr Abdulla and the other man who drove the Jeep into Glasgow airport were also responsible for the failed car bombings in London on Friday.
The driver of the Jeep has not been officially arrested as he is critically ill in the Royal Alexandra Hospital with 90 per cent burns. Whitehall sources said that he might never be questioned as he was close to death.
Several of the suspects have now been linked to known extremist radicals listed on MI5’s data base. Security sources told The Times that none of them had been under surveillance as part of any counter-terrorist operation. The security sources said that although a number of the suspected plotters did feature on the data base, it was only in connection with general extremist activities.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2023024.ece
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from the above article....“He talked to me about how they were going to destroy British and Americans. He told me that the plans were already made and they would soon be destroying the British. He said the people who cure you would kill you.”
Hmmm. Maybe it's bluster..maybe not. Perhaps there is another similar group in the US.
Hmmm. Maybe it's bluster..maybe not. Perhaps there is another similar group in the US.
Like the cretin physicians, psychiatrists and nurses at Guantanamo, who aid in the torture of innocent people.
Let's clean up our house first, before we lecture others...
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:rollseyes Okay....smile knowingly and move on.
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Neurosurgeons launching themselves at airports intent on self-immolation and, not insignificantly, the killing of as many Brits as possible. :?
Is anyone else starting to worry this may go on a long time?
This attack was incredibly amateurish but the zeal and conviction of the attackers can hardly be doubted.
Forget about burning Jeeps and airports, what if a couple of quality control types at a Western drug manufacturer conspired to do harm?
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Is anyone else starting to worry this may go on a long time?
This attack was incredibly amateurish but the zeal and conviction of the attackers can hardly be doubted.
Forget about burning Jeeps and airports, what if a couple of quality control types at a Western drug manufacturer conspired to do harm?
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all 8 or 9 of the suspects seem to be doctors or had medical elated professions.weird.
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Key word is suspect
. Let us remind ourselves (or rather me remind you lot) that it is innocent until proven guilty in the UK.
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Key word is suspect
Granted..although when you handcuff a guy that is on fire after he drove an SUV full of flammable liquid into an airport terminal...well, it doesn't look good.
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Now that I will give you. The other 5/6 who where arrested however...
Imagine you were the second guy in the Jeep and you thought you were simply going to pick up someone's grandma.
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That comment was aimed at the other guys/gals (hey, might aswell throw in some PC) who had also been arrested as suspects - the '5/6' bit was an innacuracy on my part since I didn't know the exact amount that had been arrested. In any case my original point still stood about being innocent until proven guilty in the UK.Imagine you were the second guy in the Jeep and you thought you were simply going to pick up someone's grandma.
To answer your question truthfully though, I'd have to donate to the swear jar...multiple times.
.Some muslims say here that british police and goverment are biased against them and islam. But i think that british officials are extremely political correct. Mainstream media also i guess. After that failed car crash in airport attempt no Scottish official said that they were muslims who did it. They didnt even give their nationality, they just mentioned "asians" which may mean also Chinese and Koreans. But of course in such cases after the mens' names are mentioned in newspapers and other media, everyone can guess.
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The Glasgow bombing was stupid
Stupid - Because it looks to most people Allah never wanted them to do it since they failed so stunningly and no one was killed including themselves. Thier martydom will only be a few life sentences then death by natural causes and a reserved seat in hell. (not that I believe in hell)
Stupid - Because for many Scots, Scotland has suffered at the hands of the English also with a bloody history with them too. Scotland wants to be a free independant country free from England, this is and always has been by PEACEFULL & POLITICAL means. Scots never have and never will resort to violence to achieve this aim, so people who use violence like these Muslims only show the Scots how right they are to pursue a peaceful way to indapendance.
Way to go terrorists, it's a stunning own goal
Stupid - Because it looks to most people Allah never wanted them to do it since they failed so stunningly and no one was killed including themselves. Thier martydom will only be a few life sentences then death by natural causes and a reserved seat in hell. (not that I believe in hell)
Stupid - Because for many Scots, Scotland has suffered at the hands of the English also with a bloody history with them too. Scotland wants to be a free independant country free from England, this is and always has been by PEACEFULL & POLITICAL means. Scots never have and never will resort to violence to achieve this aim, so people who use violence like these Muslims only show the Scots how right they are to pursue a peaceful way to indapendance.
Way to go terrorists, it's a stunning own goal
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I understand your point, but I think William Wallace and Robert the Bruce would disagree with parts of that
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the British authorities have been really responsible and professional this time.British ministers haven't started shouting"Burkhas/hijab be banned",etc.
they are doing a really good job.
http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/07/05/d707051303109.htm
appeared in our daily in Bangladesh.
Exclusive: U.K. Terror Plot -- Why the Bombs Failed
Fuel-Air Bombs Notoriously Difficult
According to nonclassified documents reviewed by ABC News, and confirmed by multiple sources, both mobile telephones initiated firing mechanisms rigged inside a Mercedes E 300 parked several yards from the front door of Tiger Tiger nightclub failed despite multiple calls to the cell phones designed to remotely trigger the devices.
Had the fuel-air bombs successfully ignited into a superhot fireball filled with roofing nails, casualties were almost a certainty among the 500 or so patrons who partied late at the 1,700-person occupancy nightclub that perhaps best symbolizes London's vital nightlife scene.
Instead, at about 1:42 a.m., a vigilant ambulance crew on an unrelated call spotted a plume of cold propane from a slightly opened window of the car that contained patio fuel cylinders in the foot wells behind the driver and passenger seats, ABC sources said. When a bomb technician in a 90-pound Kevlar suit walked down to the vehicle to examine it, he also found a firing system rigged inside the car and another inside its trunk along with four jugs of gasoline. The technician successfully disarmed the devices..
A second Mercedes rigged with a similar incendiary device was parked several hundred yards away. Several experts on improvised explosives tactics suggested that the second device might have either been meant for patrons who escaped the first or to target rescue workers.
Within 14 hours after the plot failed, the same two men believed to have planted the bombs in London attempted what appears to have been a suicide incendiary attack on the doors to a terminal at Scotland's Glasgow Airport. That attack failed too. The vehicle failed to reach the doors, and its contents failed to ignite even after one of the occupants tried to douse the car in gasoline, setting himself on fire in the process.
Fuel-air bombs, whether professionally made or rigged by novices, are notoriously difficult to get to perform as intended, which analysts said is why they are so rarely used. Despite some surface similarities to vehicle born improvised explosives used in Iraq, these incendiaries are essentially different.
The Iraqi bombs are explosives linked to gases either in the idea of increasing their effectiveness or spreading a chemical cloud. The London and Glasgow devices are not explosives at all, but firebombs
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3345743&page=1
Fuel-Air Bombs Notoriously Difficult
According to nonclassified documents reviewed by ABC News, and confirmed by multiple sources, both mobile telephones initiated firing mechanisms rigged inside a Mercedes E 300 parked several yards from the front door of Tiger Tiger nightclub failed despite multiple calls to the cell phones designed to remotely trigger the devices.
Had the fuel-air bombs successfully ignited into a superhot fireball filled with roofing nails, casualties were almost a certainty among the 500 or so patrons who partied late at the 1,700-person occupancy nightclub that perhaps best symbolizes London's vital nightlife scene.
Instead, at about 1:42 a.m., a vigilant ambulance crew on an unrelated call spotted a plume of cold propane from a slightly opened window of the car that contained patio fuel cylinders in the foot wells behind the driver and passenger seats, ABC sources said. When a bomb technician in a 90-pound Kevlar suit walked down to the vehicle to examine it, he also found a firing system rigged inside the car and another inside its trunk along with four jugs of gasoline. The technician successfully disarmed the devices..
A second Mercedes rigged with a similar incendiary device was parked several hundred yards away. Several experts on improvised explosives tactics suggested that the second device might have either been meant for patrons who escaped the first or to target rescue workers.
Within 14 hours after the plot failed, the same two men believed to have planted the bombs in London attempted what appears to have been a suicide incendiary attack on the doors to a terminal at Scotland's Glasgow Airport. That attack failed too. The vehicle failed to reach the doors, and its contents failed to ignite even after one of the occupants tried to douse the car in gasoline, setting himself on fire in the process.
Fuel-air bombs, whether professionally made or rigged by novices, are notoriously difficult to get to perform as intended, which analysts said is why they are so rarely used. Despite some surface similarities to vehicle born improvised explosives used in Iraq, these incendiaries are essentially different.
The Iraqi bombs are explosives linked to gases either in the idea of increasing their effectiveness or spreading a chemical cloud. The London and Glasgow devices are not explosives at all, but firebombs
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3345743&page=1