Cartoon row author rewrites Qur'an!

[Darktide]

Salaam

People might wanna harm the guy, they wont realise that this isn't going to affect us in one bit.

???
How much will we be pushed around before we take a stand? you think this to be about him rewriting the quran! This is about outright insulting our faith its going on everyday! they insult our prophets and our deen and we debate while our people die! once enough have died in our religon is weak from these types of attacks and the physical abuse our brothers and sisters are putting up with.

then will we all stand and say its time to act!? what are we waiting for again?
im not talking about hurting those who do nothing to us like the random terrorists im takling stopping the west using us as there dogs who they kill when they want and use as enemys of the earth when they want!

this will affect us brother have you not seen the doors that keep them from rising with insult to our deen being crushed? with open hearts and full freedom do people insult islam now days as if it is an everyday thing! our peoples deaths and suffering is watched as if it were a show on TV!!

Today is the time to act! already how many have died while we take part in there feudal politics that get US nowhere and them everywhere!

There excuses grow larger as do our number of dead!

Awake before it is too late

 

[Darktide]

Greetings,


Right. It's such a shame that some people think violence is an appropriate response to this.

Peace

I do not charge for death my friend i ask for respect!

I find no pleasure in spilling blood of a fellow human that goes against my religon! i ask that those who dishonour others belifs wither silence there ignorant mouths or then be ready to face the outcome!

I hear children mock the son of mariam in this country,i hear them abuse his name and what they call his statues! in the name of there lord do they deface him! this angers me! but they abuse that which they also say they hold at the most highest!?

They may accept this abuse but why should muslims accept abuse in the same way!? drag down your own religon in your own land and laugh about it?

do not expect the same when you step in the face of a muslim! we still hold dear our beloved prophets!! as do we hold holy the quran! affect us this does it widens the doors to what we are expected to accept as freedom of speech hidden in fact as an insult!

 

[Andaraawus]

i couldnt care less as to how this person is criticising Islam ....
they will try and put out the light of Allah but Allah will perfect His light and make Islam the way of life supercede all others even though the mushriks may hate it.
I couldnt care less what this guy has to say about violence and imtimidation, i have seen tooo much hypocrasy in the kuffar always criticizing Islam whilst they pay no attention to their own path.
so let them string their dajalic sentences together promoting the false idea of 'freedom and democrasy' (mothers in lipstick and short skirts)
I am human , i have faults like any other
but respnsability and careful thought for tommmorrow plays part .
any one of us could go to the grave.
as along as Allah is happy with me i couldnt give a monkeys

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

I do not charge for death my friend i ask for respect!

Good. I have no doubt that your beliefs deserve respect.

I find no pleasure in spilling blood of a fellow human that goes against my religon! i ask that those who dishonour others belifs wither silence there ignorant mouths or then be ready to face the outcome!

What outcome are you thinking of, given that spilling blood would be forbidden?

I hear children mock the son of mariam in this country,i hear them abuse his name and what they call his statues! in the name of there lord do they deface him! this angers me! but they abuse that which they also say they hold at the most highest!?

I've never heard Jesus being abused by people who claim to respect him - you've confused me there.

They may accept this abuse but why should muslims accept abuse in the same way!? drag down your own religon in your own land and laugh about it?

Where I live (the UK), religion isn't taken at all seriously any more by the vast majority of the public. I'm perfectly happy with that.

do not expect the same when you step in the face of a muslim! we still hold dear our beloved prophets!! as do we hold holy the quran! affect us this does it widens the doors to what we are expected to accept as freedom of speech hidden in fact as an insult!

If you are not a fan of freedom of speech then why not live in a country like Turkmenistan, where it doesn't exist?

Peace

 

[Wahid]

Greetings,


Please can people stop making threats of violence? That's not going to help anything.



Surely your faith is strong enough to withstand this sort of criticism?

Peace

you know there is a difference between critisizm and down right insullts and manipulations? we are debating everyday with westeners here that critisize diff aspects of islam and thats called a debate with logic and evidence, thats called critisizm not down right insults and name callings and manipulations of a copy righted material

am pertty sure Quran is copy righted so there would also be legal bases against him if this guy tries anything...
all else fails then i dont care what happens to him

 

[snakelegs]

to those who call for violence:
do you really believe that this guy in this funny cold country, whose name most can't even remember has the power to harm islam or the prophet?
wouldn't it be wonderful if the trap was laid and no one took that bait? just silence....
it wouldn't sell nearly as many copies, that's for sure. and it wouldn't be nearly as damaging to the image of islam.

 

[HeiGou]

am pertty sure Quran is copy righted so there would also be legal bases against him if this guy tries anything...
all else fails then i dont care what happens to him

The Quran is copy-righted? Well the author would have to file a suit in a civil court to obtain redress if someone violated His copy-right. Somehow I don't see that happening. Besides which it is at least 3.5 billion years old and most copy-rights run out after 75 years.

 

[afriend]

Greetings,


Right. It's such a shame that some people think violence is an appropriate response to this.

Peace

It sure is a shame, but I think the best thing to be doing is to be patient.

 

[i_m_tipu]

What on earth is he planning to do???

BBC Online
Cartoon row author rewrites Koran

The author whose book on the life of the Prophet Muhammad sparked the Danish cartoons furore is now working on a new version of the Koran.

The controversial cartoons were published last September by the Danish daily Jyllands-Posten.

They followed a complaint by author Kare Bluitgen that he had not found anyone willing to illustrate a children's book on the life of the Prophet Muhammad.

Bluitgen told the Kristeligt Dagbladet newspaper that he was working on a "readable version" of the Koran, which he described as "heavy going" for ordinary people, which he expects to finish early next year.

"I cannot imagine that this will be quite as controversial", Bluitgen told the newspaper. "A few fanatical extremists may be angry, but that is up to them", he said.

i think the kafir got tried of doing everything they could do in order to broke islam

they certainly broke many muslim but not broke the islam

they thought as long as the islam remain unchanged. nothing make them prove true believer.

they r thoose people brother who change the GOD word..
and still think that they r better thinker than GOD who is the creater of the whole universe
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[afriend2]

salaam,

this man who is doing all this seems to know that Islam is growing and is trying to break it by issuing false images and words. and you know what, he can try all he likes, but did not Allah reveal...

"they planned and Allah planned and Allah is the best of all planners.":statisfie :wub:

even is he gets some "success" in the life, just remember that in the Akhirah what will he get....

wassalam

 

[HeiGou]

i think the kafir got tried of doing everything they could do in order to broke islam

they certainly broke many muslim but not broke the islam

they thought as long as the islam remain unchanged. nothing make them prove true believer.

they r thoose people brother who change the GOD word..
and still think that they r better thinker than GOD who is the creater of the whole universe

You really think we kafirs have nothing better to do with our time than plot against Islam? You know, like curing cancer for instance? Feeding the poor and starving of the world?

The sad truth is the vast majority of us don't spend two seconds a day thinking about Muslims or Islam. Why would we?

This sort of paranoia is just sad.

 

[afriend]

Urm.....but it's pretty clear that it is an attack on Islam......

The main reason is to destabilize Islam...and we're not talking about YOU Kafirs, how u like to generalize, but we are talkin about this 1 person, are we blaming you or saying that u had anything to do with this?

 

[afriend2]

salaam,

^^^^ with things like this happening it is only natural for us to feel like this. you must admit that there is a major focus on the muslim world....is that not paranoia in itself.

and i dont think the brother meant all of the Kafirs.

Allah knows best.

wassalam

 

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Urm.....but it's pretty clear that it is an attack on Islam......

The main reason is to destabilize Islam...and we're not talking about YOU Kafirs, how u like to generalize, but we are talkin about this 1 person, are we blaming you or saying that u had anything to do with this?

Agreed.

 

[i_m_tipu]

You really think we kafirs have nothing better to do with our time than plot against Islam? You know, like curing cancer for instance? Feeding the poor and starving of the world?

The sad truth is the vast majority of us don't spend two seconds a day thinking about Muslims or Islam. Why would we?

This sort of paranoia is just sad.

well i have nothing to say

but sir open secret is there r Several billion dollar spending.....

to create Opposition against the islam
they fueling thoose who have contradic idea agaist islam
they invest thoose project which create Confusion in islam
they inevest thoose project which is so called modern in order to broke islam
discourage people to being relegious
etc,etc,etc

people of the muslim world r quite helpless, devided, confused today

even thou islam is not broken, will not be broken untill the Quran is not changed also will not be changed untill the end of the day will come

wating for that moment sir

i m not blaming u(who has nothing to do of it), i m blaming thoose leader and thoose active evil kafir and there r lot of so called muslim involed also.

may Allaah help us

 

[HeiGou]

Urm.....but it's pretty clear that it is an attack on Islam......

The main reason is to destabilize Islam...and we're not talking about YOU Kafirs, how u like to generalize, but we are talkin about this 1 person, are we blaming you or saying that u had anything to do with this?

Agreed.

Mr Tipu uses the plural all the way through. He does not refer to one kafir, although the Sister quoted above does, he says "they" and that was what I was responding to. It is like people saying "all Muslims are terrorists". No one ought to generalise like that.

The thought that this is going to destabilise Islam, or even that it was intended to, seems absurd to me but if you are happy with that, well, I would still recommend you think more carefully and deeply. Why would anyone care?

 

[HeiGou]

well i have nothing to say

but sir open secret is there r Several billion dollar spending.....

Well you have a lot to say for someone with nothing to say. Who is spending these billions and where are they coming from? What is the evidence of this claim?

to create Opposition against the islam
they fueling thoose who have contradic idea agaist islam
they invest thoose project which create Confusion in islam
they inevest thoose project which is so called modern in order to broke islam
discourage people to being relegious
etc,etc,etc

Actually from where I sit it seems to me that there has always been opposition to Islam, there have always been people with ideas that are contrary to Islam, there has never been a shortage of confusion in the Ummah about Islam, so-called "modern" Muslims do not exist except as a fringe movement, and the Americans do not discourage anyone from being religious. Why do you think these things only happen if people spend billions?

people of the muslim world r quite helpless, devided, confused today

True. But despite the West, not because of it.

even thou islam is not broken, will not be broken untill the Quran is not changed also will not be changed untill the end of the day will come

Uh huh. There are rules on discussion sects so I won't, but you will agree there are sects in the Islamic world?

wating for that moment sir

i m not blaming u(who has nothing to do of it), i m blaming thoose leader and thoose active evil kafir and there r lot of so called muslim involed also.

Sounds like a broad enough group to include me.

 

[Far7an]

I don't think I would ever have found out about this if I wasn't posted here and on other forums. It seems these guys are getting free publicity from us

And before anyone gets excited and issues rulings on killing people, let me remind you, that we leave that to the scholars and those with knowledge.

Barakallahu feekum.

 

[i_m_tipu]

I give u some very simple example around myself

There r some foreign company in our country use Saturday as a holiday
how it is Happening in Muslim country while 99% worker is Muslim


There r lot of Ngo and club in our country got huge donation from foreign
and there activity is clearly show how Desperate these people r in order to move us in a such culture what strictly forbidden in Islam


There r some political leader, other so called Intellectual public in our country
act like a spy for the west


Finally if u hear properly the voice of Western leader in case of Islam or Muslim
u wont find a single one who don't want reforming Islam


it clearly make any child to understand the position of those west against Islam

 

[KAding]

Urm.....but it's pretty clear that it is an attack on Islam......

The main reason is to destabilize Islam...and we're not talking about YOU Kafirs, how u like to generalize, but we are talkin about this 1 person, are we blaming you or saying that u had anything to do with this?

It is obvious to me that Islam is all encompassing. It is thus very much political in nature as well. You cannot expect Islam to stay outside or above the general struggle between political ideologies. Since Islam is political it can be criticized just like any other ideology, to expect others to spare it simply because it also has religious significance is unrealistic and unreasonable.

Perhaps Islam is above politics in homogenous Muslim countries, but it is not in the West and cannot be expected to be so. Islam is political and thus part of the political discussion and discourse in our countries. Politics is often mean and harsh, but it does not allow for violence and intimidation. It does however allow for criticism and ridicule. The idea that Islam should be spared, simply because it's followers might resort to violence is giving into fear and blackmail.

Denmark is not a Muslim country and has a well-developed framework for political discourse. You cannot seriously expect Islam to be given special status in this country, a status it naturally has in Muslim countries.