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[EllyDicious]

Greetings,

what does this have to do with my comments above?

Again, nothing to do with what I wrote.. you have neither addressed where those state laws came from, nor have you addressed how living with Godless laws under Enver were perceived and enjoyed by your country-folk

I was actually talking about the era I'm living in. I didn't know you referred to the Enver era. He used to be a dictator. Laws were made according to his principles.
I wasn't born at that time. But from what I've heard/read he used to treat people unfairly. I've heard many unfair stories and everyone who lived at that time can't believe it is already over. They say all their life had been a night-mare. His laws weren't enjoyed at all. He killed millions of people for ridiculous reasons.
Now in democracy, everything's changed. [some for better and some for worse -- but the worst part is over].
Now everyone is free to have the life they want [of course respecting the law].
Enver wouldn't allow God's laws because he himself thought he was above God.

 

[EllyDicious]

its a really good question,first of all you say you believe in god right?i am sure you do so ask him say please god show me the right path o god tell me if you have a religion to follow,ask him with sincirity.secondly, i will tell you something a quran has proves for every period of time,this time for instance is the science time isnt? ok ^^ i will examine that later,you might say so what about people who live at the time of prophet mohmmed,the biggest miracle is in the language of quran in the arabic language,at the time of propet people like poems and good speaches sooo much,they were use language as a challenge,for example,there were rules for challenge like sjaa tbaag many like you have to make a 10 sentence and each sentence has to end with two letters and they have to follow the meaning etc .i am an arab but i am not will knowing in this field,i hope i gave you an idia,however many people at the time prohet hearing the quran was so enough to prove that this is not from human.even people who dibelieve in him at that time they still aknowledge that the quran was amazing,but they do you know what they say , they said that he get it from seaten or devil,i will give you a short story regarding that ^^ so please be patience. the disbelievers sent a person who was very very good in arabic language because they want him to tell mohammed to stop telling people worshipping god alone instead of idols and creatsions with god,this person told prophet mohammed that we will give an honour and dignity and we will let you marry whatever you want and we will make you a leader upon us and give you money etc the prophet did listen to this guy,after he finished the prophet said did you finish,and he did reply yes ,the prophet quote ayat from the quran and recite it to him i forgot the ayat so please forgive me, then this person was amazed,and he turned to his people and described the quran to his people in a good description i cant even translate it,after that his people say to the people of makah to be aware to not listen to the quran,because they say to them he will make you crazy etc and when he try to recite the quran people put their hands in their ears.However every prophet was given a miracle wich is suitable to his people,like at the time of moses the magic was popular.At the time of jesus pbuh the medicine was popular so he was given an ability to give the death people life,to make the blind see etc.Whatever, i will return to nowday.there are a number of scientific facts in the quran i brought to you a very good site which is been founded by a former christian brother yusef estes and he has many sites, this is one of them
http://www.scienceislam.com/

Although at the time of prophet there were miracles,some people disbelieve they were arrogant,like at the time of moses some people say we will never believe in you until we see god
there was a great punishment in this life ,and there will be in the hereafter.
i hope you get benefit.

Thank you for sharing the stories.
But still they are stories and still there is a doubtful part in them because I don't think anyone would be able to confirm about their truthfulness.
A story brings another story and so on and people take these as true, automatically.

Anyway, i'll take a look at the website.

However sister i would advice that you dont take knowledge without proves in islam,because some muslims are ignorant and they speak from their opinions not from islam,if you would like really to know whether read the quran and its explaintion,the first word was revealed iqra read recite.^^

That's a good advice.

 

[tango92]

you know without even trying to verify the info your given theres no chance youll accept it to be true. youl find it hard to believe anything.

how can you be 100 percent sure of anything? there is always that chance your really in a coma and everything is just a dream. or so the philosophers would like you to believe.

the first principle of science is to provide evidence for theories, and you have to sit down and review that evidence thoroughly instead of just saying ahh sod it its probably all made up...

may allah guide you, things will become clear if you give quran a chance inshallah

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

*not aimed at anyone in this thread*

here is a very beautiful story, it reminds me of what you said "always forgive"

question is would it be so easy to forgive if it went the other way around?

typical usual one sided rubbish.

 

[omar ibrahim]

Thank you for sharing the stories.
But still they are stories and still there is a doubtful part in them because I don't think anyone would be able to confirm about their truthfulness.
A story brings another story and so on and people take these as true, automatically.

Actually this story is from the serah of prophet mohmmed which based on sources,we know the people who brought it,and whether if they trustworthy or not and it many of them come from different sources and other things every ayat or sorah from the quran has a reson before it reveled,and there is ounly one quran with about 600 pages memorized completely by milions of people word by word,actually in the quran itself it says wa lagd yasrna al quraana le dekr fhl mn mdekr meaning we make the quran easy to memorize is there a memorizer >sorry for my bad translation,but i think the meaning is clear.

Anyway, i'll take a look at the website.

That's a good advice.

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[Missinglinks]

*not aimed at anyone in this thread*


question is would it be so easy to forgive if it went the other way around?

typical usual one sided rubbish.

The reward doesn't have to be in this world, never forget that there's an hereafter.
so no not really, because I believe in Allah and He said:

"These will be given their reward twice over, because they are patient, and repel evil with good.."(Chapter #28, Verse #54)

and the two other verses in surah 41...

Sahih International
And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that [deed] which is better; and thereupon the one whom between you and him is enmity [will become] as though he was a devoted friend.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn
And they are not equal, the good deed and the evil deed, [even] with respect to their subdivisions, because any number of such [good deeds] are [always] above any number of the latter. Repel, the evil deed, with that, in other words, with that trait, which is better, such as [repelling] anger with endurance, ignorance with forbearance, and [the intention to inflict] harm with pardon, then, behold, he between whom and you there was enmity will be as though he were a dear friend, in other words, then your enemy will become like a close friend in terms of [his] affection [for you], if you act in such a way (alladhī, ‘he … whom’, is the subject; ka-annahu, ‘as though’, is the predicate; idhā is an adverbial particle for [expressing] the comparative import).

Sahih International
But none is granted it except those who are patient, and none is granted it except one having a great portion [of good].

Tafsir al-Jalalayn
But none is granted it, in other words, [none] is given that better trait, except those who are steadfast; and none is granted it except one [deserving] of a great reward.

I believe in Allah and I am convinced that this statement is true...

moreover if we go to tafsir ibn kathir, then to chapter 8 al-Anfal... we find a hadith about forgiving, a very beautifull one...
فَاتَّقُواْ اللَّهَ وَأَصْلِحُواْ ذَاتَ بِيْنِكُمْ
"Vrees Allah en sticht vrede onder jullie”

يقول أنس بينا رسول الله جالس إذ رأيناه ضحك حتى بدت ثناياه فقال عمر ما أضحكك يارسول الله بأبي أنت وأمي
فقال رجلان من امتى جثيا بين يدي رب العزة فقال احدهما يارب خذ لي مظلمتي من اخى فقال الله عز وجل أعط أخاك مظلمته
قال يارب لم يبقى من حسناتي شئ قال رب ليحمل عنى من اوزارى
فقال الله للطالب ارفع رأسك فانظر في الجنان فرفع رأسه فقال يا رب أرى مدائن من فضة وقصورا من ذهب مكللة باللؤلؤ لأي نبي هذا
لأي صديق هذا لأي شهيد هذا قال هذا لمن أعطى الثمن قال يارب ومن يملك الثمن قال أنت تملكه قال ماذا يا رب
–تعفوعن أخيك قال عفوت عنه فقال تعالى خذ بيد أخيك فادخله الجنة
ثم قال رسول الله فاتقوا الله وأصلحوا ذات بينكم فإن الله يصلح بين المؤمنين يوم القيامة
Anas said: we sat with the messenger of ALlah pbuh and all of a sudden he smiled. Umar said: (May my mother and father be sacrificed for you) o messenger of Allah, what made you smile? He said: Two men from my ummah sitting before their Lord tabaraka wa ta3aala on their knees. One of them says:
O my Lord, take my injustice that is done to me by my brother.
Allah 3azza wa jall will say; take your injustice from your brother(i.e. take his hasanaat)
He(the wrongdoer) will say: "O Lord, I have no hasanaat left.
He(the asker) says: O my Lord, let him carry my sayi-aat(evil deeds)
Then ALlah will say: Raise your head and look into the heavens. He lift his head up and says:
O my Lord, I see cities/places of silver and palaces of gold croned with pearls! For wich prophet is this? For wich trustworthy, honest person? For wich martyr (is this)?
He(Allah) tabaraka wa ta3aala will say: This is for a person who gives something very valuable for it.
He(the asker) will say: And who is the one who can give this valuable thing (to get it)?
He(Allah) tabaraka wa ta3ala will say: You are the one owning it
He(the asker) will say: And what is it o my Lord?
"FORGIVING YOUR BROTHER"
He will say: O my Lord I have forgiven him
Then Allah the Almighty will say: take your brother by his hand and enter paradise.
Then the messenger of Allah recited (the vers): "Fear Allah and make peace between each other", for verily Allah will make peace between the believers on the Day of Judgement
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see the virtues of forgiving and yet people reject to forgive!!!!​

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