Christian and Muslim Obstacles

Fishman said:
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But why didn't the people who did a presentation on the Rwanda genocide who came to our school tell us this?
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Salaam,

i do not know,but you can be sure that when this happened in that time,the church complicity was not made obvious by the media.and i think you know why.



Perhaps the next time such people came by you can tell them?LOL


Read this testimony

http://www.survivors-fund.org.uk/pdf/testimonies/valentina_izibagiza.pdf
http://www.survivors-fund.org.uk/genocide/church.htm#
 
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"Yes christianty is constantly evolving to suit the current fashion."



What do you mean by evolving? I don't recall saying that the gospel has changed, I do recall asking forgiveness for heinous acts done in the name of Christianity. The message of the gospel is the same as it was 2000 years ago. Salvation is through Jesus, and I make no apology for that.



"But my question is if the now chrisitan are referenced by future chrisitan as non christian what would you say?"


Why would you want to put words in my mouth? Read my post again and tell me where I wrote that anyone was non-christian. If your muslim brother behaves in a manner not befitting your beliefs would you declare him a non-muslim or ask forgiveness of those he has treated improperly.



"What would you say that the current interpretation of love and forgiveness as is before the past are false?"



God's definition of love and forgiveness has not changed and that is the character Christians desire to be built in them. I do not ask forgiveness for my sake, Jesus has forgiven me. Nor do I ask for your sake, though it is better for you if you do forgive. I ask so that the glory of the Lord may be seen.



My prayer is that this verse does not pertain to you.

Matthew 13:13-15

"With them indeed is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which says:

‘You shall indeed hear but never understand,

and you shall indeed see but never perceive.

For this people’s heart has grown dull,and their ears are heavy of hearing,

and their eyes they have closed,

lest they should perceive with their eyes,

and hear with their ears,

and understand with their heart,

and turn for me to heal them.’"




Romans 8:28
We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose.
 
evangel said:
"Yes christianty is constantly evolving to suit the current fashion."



What do you mean by evolving? I don't recall saying that the gospel has changed, I do recall asking forgiveness for heinous acts done in the name of Christianity. The message of the gospel is the same as it was 2000 years ago. Salvation is through Jesus, and I make no apology for that.



"But my question is if the now chrisitan are referenced by future chrisitan as non christian what would you say?"


Why would you want to put words in my mouth? Read my post again and tell me where I wrote that anyone was non-christian. If your muslim brother behaves in a manner not befitting your beliefs would you declare him a non-muslim or ask forgiveness of those he has treated improperly.



"What would you say that the current interpretation of love and forgiveness as is before the past are false?"



God's definition of love and forgiveness has not changed and that is the character Christians desire to be built in them. I do not ask forgiveness for my sake, Jesus has forgiven me. Nor do I ask for your sake, though it is better for you if you do forgive. I ask so that the glory of the Lord may be seen.



My prayer is that this verse does not pertain to you.

Matthew 13:13-15

"With them indeed is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which says:

‘You shall indeed hear but never understand,

and you shall indeed see but never perceive.

For this people’s heart has grown dull,and their ears are heavy of hearing,

and their eyes they have closed,

lest they should perceive with their eyes,

and hear with their ears,

and understand with their heart,

and turn for me to heal them.’"




Romans 8:28
We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose.
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Salaam,

As i said the gospel has changed to suit man,as in the past when it is ok for slavery,burning of witches and crusades,those were the IDEAL chrsitian of that time.

And over time the gospel changes to become that of love.All encomapssing love.I am sure if you read enough of chrsiitan history you would know that the current doctoine of forgivenss does not esxist in the old gospel.Rahter the church father then command the biblical laws of punishment to be enforce,an exaple were the buring of withces and what not.

Perhaps you did not read the threads between me and the other about Hitler being chrisitan or not.And you replied and i thought you were the same person,sorry.
But i ask you do you think Hitler was a christian?Or mIloselvic? Or bush? Or Blair?

And for Islam and muslim ,when you say the shahadah 3 times then you are a muslim.For me Osama is a smulim,as is Zaqawi,Saddam is a muslim..I cnanot take their reliogn from them.

So i shall give you the history of chrsiitanity..

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08026a.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

Of course that is but one layer of the changes in chrisitan idealogy from it inception,even the bible and the idea of trinity is evolution in chrsiitan faith.





About heretic torture..
 

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