Citizenship?

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Well, sometimes I used to wake-up before fajr prayers and go to college. By the time I reached there it would be time to pray fajr and I would pray there.

Insha'Allah you will find a way to pray on time. :D

MashAllah, may Allah,spw, strenghten us.

Ameen
 
I'll bring a plastic large bag.I don't have a water proof rug. Good idea,thanks. That way I can pray on grass.

Thanks all of you, you've been of a lot of help.

I'll manage to find that question and PM you sister :).

By the way, I have another question. Aunty told me that you get in to the bathroom with your right foot and get out with your right foot.
However, in elementary in Bosnia, I was told to enter with your leaft foot and get out with your right,who's correct?

Thanks a lot. May Allah,spw, reward all of you.

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It is Sunnah to enter the Bathroom with your left foot and leave with your right foot. Right now all of my books are packed up as we are moving, but I will try to find the Hadeeth that mention that on line.

I found many sites that clarify this they all say the same thing. This site seems to be the clearest and to the best of my knowledge is non sectarian:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17544865/Etiquette-and-Manners-of-Bathroom-for-Muslim-Kids
 
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh

Thank you brother Woodrow, you've been of a lot of help.

I preformed Duhur in school and I'm unable to preform Sunnets. Do I have to make tham up(Abu Hanifa's)?

And Fajer is so short without sunnets. I feel as If my Salah is incomplete.

I take wudu during lunch. Which is an hour or so before Duhur. I hear so much cursing(public school) would this have an affect on my wudu? So I take it later.
 
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You don't necessarily have to be a citizen. You can always stay a permanent resident (green card) right? I mean, really, the benefits seem the same.
 
You don't necessarily have to be a citizen. You can always stay a permanent resident (green card) right? I mean, really, the benefits seem the same.

WA Alaiku Muselam

My beloved sis, my mother wants to get a citizenship. She insists that I get one so she gets it easier. It's a little too personal but I don't have a word in my house "DO THIS,PERIOD."

I really don't want one +o(
 
You don't necessarily have to be a citizen. You can always stay a permanent resident (green card) right? I mean, really, the benefits seem the same.

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The only couple of benefits I can see are:
1- you don't need a visa to travel to European countries ( I am not sure if that is true anymore) but certainly was the case always...
2- with a green card you'll have to renew it every 7-8 years I believe?
I am sure there are others but I think those are quite striking.. since the point of less hassle is better.. but I am really not aware of such outlandish questions as the sister previously mentioned ... perhaps things have changed of late?

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assalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh.

Ramadhan Mubarak.

Praying While Sitting

Saudi Islamic lecturer and author Sheikh Muhammad Saleh Al-Munajjid points out:

“Standing is an essential part of the prayer, and if a person fails to stand during the prayer, from the initial takbeer to the final salam, with no valid excuse for that, his prayer is invalid.

Allah Almighty says: “ And stand before Allah with obedience” (Al-Baqarah :238)

This rule applies especially to the obligatory prayers; i.e., in performing supererogatory prayers, sitting is permitted, though it earns one half of the reward of performing prayer in standing. The evidence that this rule applies only to the obligatory prayers is the hadith in which the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Pray while standing.” (Reported by Al-Bukhari)

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to pray supererogatory prayers (sitting) on a saddle, but on getting to pray an obligatory prayer, he would get down off his saddle so that he could fulfill the essential conditions of the prayer, i.e., standing and facing the qiblah. (Reported by Al Bukhari and Muslim)

http://http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1129443834313&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar

http://http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503545158&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar
 
Hi Rasema,

I just saw your thread here. Let me try to address some of the points you raised.

As for praying fajr, the prophet said "land was made for me a masjed and clean" meaning that any spot on land is valid to perform your prayer. As far as cleanliness is concerned, as long as you don't see a direct harm (dog excrement, rancid water, etc) it is find to pray. Sidewalk is fine, a dry spot with a newspaper spread is sufficient. Grass does not require anything spread unless it is wet. If it is dry it is presumed Taher (pure) until indication of uncleanliness is clear.

Try to maintain Dhuhr sunna though, daily maintainance ensures your house in paradise. :) (The prophet -pbuh- said: "Whomever prays 12 nawafel rakaa in the day and night, God builds him a house in paradise") Half of the 12 rakaa are the 6 of Dhuhr. Making up the Dhuhr sunnah is not required with Hanafi and Maliki fiqh, but is possible with Shafei and most of the Hanbali Sheikhs.

Brother Woodrow, praying in your mind is not permissible even for a quadraplegic, that is because they can pray by moving their eyes. It is good that you were saying this is your opinion though, God bless you. The person needs to perform the acts concerned with the prayer as long as his body can handle it. If the ground is completely filthy and cannot be prostated upon, then find a bench or rock, and perform your prayer standing, making rokoo as normal, and then sitting on the bench or rock and making a bow without touching the ground to resemble the prostration, standing up at the beginning of the new Rakaa. Chair is used if standing is impossible or a great distress, like in a car or on a plane.

As far as the US citizenship is concerned, what I am told is that the amount of hassles you get as a US citizen are more than otherwise when it comes to taxes and possession (You are not allowed to have offshore accounts, or have business interests with the blacklisted countries like Iran or Cuba, and all your worldwide income above 70k or so is taxed). I heard the warnings about that. Other than that, a US passport will give you protection and rights that your current passport might not (depending on your current citizenship this might be a big deal or a moot point). So it's really up to you to decide on what you will do. HOWEVER, you said something you need to be aware of:

My beloved sis, my mother wants to get a citizenship. She insists that I get one so she gets it easier. It's a little too personal but I don't have a word in my house "DO THIS,PERIOD."

I have never heard a single scholar ever asked about ANYTHING that a mother asked a person to do, and the scholar said anything other than "Do it immediately without delay!" That included leaving a beloved suitor, or marrying a specific woman, or staying away from a feud, or not going even on Umra (but not the obligatory haj, otherwise it is disobedience to God and you should go in spite)! Sheikh Shenqeetee has explained it in a profound lecture that brought him to tears when he remembered his dead mother, that with Parental Pleasure, every portal of mercy and providence is opened for you that whatever you do in life is blessed just because you're pleasing your mother.

He told of a young man who came to him once asking him that his mother is insisting that he marries this unattractive skinny girl that wasn't even a good muslim, and he yearned for his cousin who was both beautiful and devout muslim, and the sheikh told him to obey his mother. WHen the man argued that the prophet asked men to seek the one with better religion ("Woman is married for four: either beauty, or social class, or money, or religion. Win the one with the religion your hands will be blessed."), the Sheikh answered that it was mustahabb, not obligatory, and that obeying the mother is obligatory. The man revised the Shiekh over a whole month and the Sheikh maintained his position and told him to keep coming till he's dead if he wants to keep wasting his time, there will be no angle to tackle this.

The man married the woman his mother wanted, and he visited the Sheikh two years later, kissed his hand, and told him that the woman he married was the kindest he could ever imagine, and with marital life she brightened up and took care of herself and gained beauty, and most importantly turned out to be from an unreligious home but was hungry for learning, and learned from him and books and became the most pious he could imagine. As for the cousin he liked, low and behold she went through circumstances that made her depressed and nasty in treatment, and in rejection she dropped her religious obligations and was hardly ever praying anymore.

You don't know where's the good, and God will arrange it for you because you have obeyed him in one of the highest commandments he enjoined upon us as muslims: pleasing and obeying our parents. Because your mother has asked you to do this, and insists you do, and it is not a disobedience to God, you HAVE TO do it if you don't want to be commiting a sin of displeasing your mother, which is a huge one.

Barak Allahu feekee sister
 
If you are a minor under the age of 18 or a senior citisen over the age of 65 I doubt there would be any advantage or disadvantage to getting citizenship.

About the draft question. Unless the law has changed, it is illegal to draft females, so that is a moot point.

My answer is NO their is no reason to get citizenship, based upon the information in your post. However, not getting it could limit job opportunities and education benefits and hold the possibility of deportation to your homeland.

About Fajr

In my opinion for the reasons you mentioned it would be haraam to pray on those side walks. If there is a bench near sit on the bench and go through the motions in your mind while sitting, if there is no bench offer your prayers standing again going through the motions in your mind..


Just my opinion Astagfirullah

i don't advise a sister going through the full salat in public. if you can seculde yourself do that, or pray on a bench but not in public. when you go into ruku and sajdah some pervert might be oogling you.
 
Assalamu Alaikum,

My husband became a citizen in July alhamdulilah. He thought long and hard about it and decided to for the following reasons:

1. Ease of travel. With an egyptian passport, he may have a hard time getting visas to other countries, even as a US permenant resident
2. Possibility to live abroad. As a green card holder, one needs to maintain their permenant residence in the united states. If you move overseas, you lose it. This way, we could move to the gulf or egypt, and still have the option of moving back to the US or visiting easily
3. Possibility of making hajj easier. I've never heard of an american being turned down for a hajj visa, where as it's much more difficult to get one as an egyptian
4. Jobs. It's harder to get a job as a green card holder. Potential employers look upon you with more suspicion, thinking you'll leave, or lose your status
5. Easier when we move abroad. We'd like to move to the gulf some day inshaAllah and quite frankly, egyptians are not treated as equals. As an american, he'll inshaAllah be viewed better and will have the potential to get a better job.
6. Peace of mind. Don't have to worry about immigration, or carrying around his green card all the time.
7. Don't have to pay USCIS anymore money alhamdulilah! We've paid them enough already, don't want to have to pay them every 10 years for a renewed green card.
 
Assalamu ALikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuhu

Wa alaiku muselam

Thanks for all of your replies.

There is a park near my bus stop so I pray there on grass. It's dark, so brother convert no one would see me. I use this big, plastic bag as a rug and paper towels to prostrate on. I'm specifying this to make sure that all of it is permitted to be used.

As for Duhur. My principal allowed me use a private room and I pray there only Fards. However, when I get home I pray sunnets as well. Unfortunately, I don't have time to pray sunnets for Fajer.


About obeying my mother, It's really hard to obey her, because all she carres about is dunya. She keeps telling me to focus on school and leave Islam for a while. It upsets me. I don't have much respect for her :(

I'll try my best though.

The citizenship, I don't want it because I don't want to be in a kufr country. Oh well, I'll just live here and get a citizenship....... until my mother dies and I wither than I'll move to Saudia Arabia,InshAllah.

Again, thanks a lot.
 
Sr Rasema.. I have known two or three green card holders who have gone for their residency of late and I assure you, no such question was asked..
they ask you questions on U.S history and whether you have loyalty to 'foreign prince' :haha: or are a communist .. someone needs to update the constitution since some of those q's are really dated.. but there is nothing about drafting or refusing to draft.. when you take your oath you'll be in a large room and no one will listen to what you are saying, put you hand across your chest and say La illah illah Allah .. over and over while smiling..

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Don't take the oath if you can't take it honestly.
 
Oath from the Qur'an?

If it's not from the Qur'an then what's the big issue?
Is it maybe by darwin?

I was speaking of the oath of citizenship if you take it. Are you prepared to speak that oath and not be telling the truth? Should I assume the same of other Muslims?
 
Assalamu ALikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuhu

Wa alaiku muselam

Thanks for all of your replies.

There is a park near my bus stop so I pray there on grass. It's dark, so brother convert no one would see me. I use this big, plastic bag as a rug and paper towels to prostrate on. I'm specifying this to make sure that all of it is permitted to be used.

As for Duhur. My principal allowed me use a private room and I pray there only Fards. However, when I get home I pray sunnets as well. Unfortunately, I don't have time to pray sunnets for Fajer.


About obeying my mother, It's really hard to obey her, because all she carres about is dunya. She keeps telling me to focus on school and leave Islam for a while. It upsets me. I don't have much respect for her :(

I'll try my best though.

The citizenship, I don't want it because I don't want to be in a kufr country. Oh well, I'll just live here and get a citizenship....... until my mother dies and I wither than I'll move to Saudia Arabia,InshAllah.

Again, thanks a lot.

Am I understanding this correctly, that your family is Muslim (or at least claims to be)?

If your Mom tells you to disobey Allah you should not obey her, but in all other matters you need to show her kindness and treat her with respect and obey her.
 
I was speaking of the oath of citizenship if you take it. Are you prepared to speak that oath and not be telling the truth? Should I assume the same of other Muslims?


I was speaking,that if it's not from the Qur'an than it's not that big of an issue to LIE.

There are hadeeths in which we are permitted to lie in some cases.

Our obligatios are divided. Lying to obey your mother's commends is something you'll get rewarded for. Second worship in Islam is to obey your parents.

If it was time for prayer and my mother asked me to do something. I would go and pray. Same goes for the citizenship.
 
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Am I understanding this correctly, that your family is Muslim (or at least claims to be)?

If your Mom tells you to disobey Allah you should not obey her, but in all other matters you need to show her kindness and treat her with respect and obey her.

Yes, my family just claims to be Muslim. For that reason it's hard to be a good Muslim. We should try hard to not be like those who we're with,in this case.
 
I was speaking,that if it's not from the Qur'an than it's not that big of an issue to LIE.

There are hadeeths in which we are permitted to lie in some cases.

Our obligatios are divided. Lying to obey your mother's commends is something you'll get rewarded for. Second worship in Islam is to obey your parents.

If it was time for prayer and my mother asked me to do something. I would go and pray. Same goes for the citizenship.

And you would consider swearing an oath of citizenship to be one of those cases?

Have it your way. But you have given anyone who reads this thread full justification for suspecting that Muslims in the US are disloyal citizens.
 
And you would consider swearing an oath of citizenship to be one of those cases?

Have it your way. But you have given anyone who reads this thread full justification for suspecting that Muslims in the US are disloyal citizens.

So are thousands of natural born citizens.
 
Also, I uncover in the bathroom to take wudu. Is this fine with Abu HAnifa's school of thaught?
 

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