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The whole concept of Islam makes sense. Full devotion to God and to your fellow human beings, a life of hard work and humility, family, and peace and harmony between others. But there is one thing that is holding me back. "La illaha illaAllah" that part I can accept, but the second part is holding me back. "Muhammad rasul-Allah." The prophets are held in such reverence, but I'm not saying Muhammad was a bad person. He was a human like you and me, and humans make mistakes. Some people in his time were forced to accept Islam, when submitting to the will of God should be done by one's own free will. I don't like the idea that there is a step between Common Man and God. Muslims do pray to God directly, but the prophets, as great as they were, were just human. They are sort of held as a step higher than Man, and not accepting the word of all the prophets is a one-way ticket to Hell. I believe God lets you live your life, and when you die He judges you based on your actions. If there is more good than bad, you'll go to Jannah, if it's the other way around you'll go to Hell. I'd like this clarified please and would like to discuss this issue with Muslims on a more elaborate basis. I do have the feeling that God wants to send me some kind of message lately.
 
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The whole concept of Islam makes sense to me. Full devotion to God and to your fellow human beings, a life of hard work and humility, family, and peace and harmony between others. But there is one thing that is holding me back. "La illaha illaAllah" that part I can accept, but the second part is holding me back. "Muhammad rasul-Allah." The prophets are held in such reverence, but I'm not saying Muhammad was a bad person. He was a human like you and me, and humans make mistakes. Some people in his time were forced to accept Islam, when submitting to the will of God should be done by one's own free will. I don't like the idea that there is a step between Common Man and God. Muslims do pray to God directly, but the prophets, as great as they were are sort of held as a step higher than Man, and not accepting the word of all the prophets is a one-way ticket to Hell. I believe God lets you live your life, and when you die He judges you based on your actions. If there is more good than bad, you'll go to Jannah, if it's the other way around you'll go to Hell. I'd like this clarified please and would like to discuss this issue with Muslims on a more elaborate basis. I do have the feeling that God wants to send me some kind of message lately.

No there were no forced conversions, anyone forced is not actually a muslim because Allah will know that the person does not actually believe from inside

Prophets hold a very high status in islam, simply because Allah has given them that status, they all had the very difficult task of spreading Allahs message.

All prophets had the same message and same kind of character. In the Quran we are told that we won't find any difference between prophet Muhammads sunnah and the sunnah of prophets before him. Theres no reason why you shouldn't accept the words of the prophets because they have been given that knowledge from Allah, they haven't innovated anything from themselves.

I don't understand what you mean by there being a step between 'Common Man and God', the prophets were here only to spread Allah's message and nothing else, they are also slaves of Allah like us.
 
Its good that you want to convert/revert and come back to the true path of God. It would help talking to other converts over here and see what made them decide. As for your concerns...

Some people in his time were forced to accept Islam

can you please give example of this or share what you have read so we can elaborate on it.

I don't like the idea that there is a step between Common Man and God.

There are no intermediaries in Islam as there are in other religions. You are connecting with God directly in Islam. Two examples of this are the daily salah (prayer) where you come standing face to face with God or rather you are told to pray as you see Him for He sees you and you are in His presence. The other is the dua (supplication) which is made directly to God for whatever needs you are asking for.

Muslims do pray to God directly, but the prophets, as great as they were are sort of held as a step higher than Man

Prophets are men chosen by God as His representatives/messengers to deliver His message to mankind and to guide their people. God molds these people to very high caliber of character, morals and values to be an example to others. They do not sin, except maybe for the unintentional, as they are always striving to please their Lord and deliver His message. They do make mistakes and this part of human nature. But then they are corrected by God as well.

I wouldn't say they are a "step higher than man" but rather they have been honor for being chosen to be the Prophets and Messengers. They are the ones that are tested and triad the most also. Allah says no one is better than another except in their piety, worship and devotion to Allah.

I think reading the biography of the Prophet Muhammad will make some sense of the devotion and trials the Prophets go through. Some good reading material, although not fully detailed. If you like reading or like to read about the life of the Prophet Muhammad (S) i suggest "The sealed nectar" .


Biography by a Muslim, Muhammad Hamidullah
http://muslim-canada.org/prophetbio.html

Biography by a non-Muslim, K. S. Ramakrishna Rao
http://muhammad.net/j/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=38

Muhammad A Blessing For Mankind, Jamal Badawi
http://muhammad.net/j/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=129&Itemid=38&limit=1&limitstart=5

Finality of Prophethood
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/M_fop/index.htm

Prophethood in Islam
http://www.al-sunnah.com/pdf/WAMY7.pdf
 
I have a feeling God wants to send you a message too and that is why you are here.. you've been chosen for something and I pray you realize it as I pray for your good health..

I'll let other members answer your Q in more details. but just letting you know that you are in my thoughts and prayers..

peace
 
Thank you, Skye. Another thing that is holding me back is the idea that all non-Muslims will go to Hell. I can't see that as a true interpretation of God's word.
 
The whole concept of Islam makes sense. Full devotion to God and to your fellow human beings, a life of hard work and humility, family, and peace and harmony between others. But there is one thing that is holding me back. "La illaha illaAllah" that part I can accept, but the second part is holding me back. "Muhammad rasul-Allah." The prophets are held in such reverence, but I'm not saying Muhammad was a bad person. He was a human like you and me, and humans make mistakes. Some people in his time were forced to accept Islam, when submitting to the will of God should be done by one's own free will. I don't like the idea that there is a step between Common Man and God. Muslims do pray to God directly, but the prophets, as great as they were, were just human. They are sort of held as a step higher than Man, and not accepting the word of all the prophets is a one-way ticket to Hell. I believe God lets you live your life, and when you die He judges you based on your actions. If there is more good than bad, you'll go to Jannah, if it's the other way around you'll go to Hell. I'd like this clarified please and would like to discuss this issue with Muslims on a more elaborate basis. I do have the feeling that God wants to send me some kind of message lately.

Hello may i offer you the warmest welcome and please do not hesitate to ask any questions for clarification can only come with seeking correct knowledge.

Firsly may i say that God sees something in you that he liekes and has given your heart the inclination to seek the truth for your heart will only find peace and tranquility once the truth is found and accepted.

So were half way there because you state you believe that there is only one God and there is no one worthy of worship except him. In regards to the Prophets, for they are Gods messengers because God himself is too high and superiour to come down to the earth and address his creations. Why should he when he can put his message through his servants?

"The Messenger believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one of them believes in God, His angels, His books, and His Messengers. They say: 'We make no distinction between one and another of His Messengers.' And they say: 'We hear, and we obey. We seek Thy forgiveness, Our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys.'" (Al-Baqarah, 2:285)

The Prophets are humans just like us they are also made of the earth and are also residing in the earth after their deaths just like we will. So there is nothing super natural about them except that they have been given the privelage and honour to be the messengers of God on this earth to call people towards him and through them God sent his message and laws that he wanted implemented by the people.

“And, indeed We have sent prophets before you (O Muhammad), of some of them We have related to you their story, and of some We have not related to you their story...” (Quran 40:78)

Without guidance from God we would all be lost! God has given us such a great favour by guiding us for deists actually beleieve that God created us and then left us to it, what kind of God is that who would create his beings and then abandon them not caring about what happens to them. God created us to test us and he sent various Prophets and messengers throughout the ages from the first man until Prophet Muhammed who was the seal and last of the Prophet's. Many Jews and Christians at the time did except him as the final Prophet according to the their scriptures because he matches the description in Deuatormony but many Jews thought that if we accept Muhammed (Pbuh) as our Prophet then we would be denouncing the fact that we are the chosen ones and the chosen people of God, so ONLY for the reason that Muhammed (Pbuh) was born from the Arabs did many of the Jews not accept him for they wanted to last Prophet to be from the children of Israel but it does not say in the scriptures that the last Prophet will be from the children of Israel it says that he will be like Moses as in a messenger who will come with a new law like Moses (As) did and that he will be from the people and will not come from outside and this description matched that of Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) but because he was an Arab they rejected him. So he was rejected purely because of race, otherwise they used to lsiten to his talks and wise words all the time and even read the Qur'an. If you read the true life story of Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) you would realise that he was a truly remarkable man with the most perfect of characters for he came to perfect character.

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad (Peace be upon them all) and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods.

Moses declared: “Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord.” (Deuteronomy 6:4).

This was repeated 1500 years later by Jesus, when he said: “The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’” (Mark 12:29).

Finally, the call of Muhammad some 600 years later reverberated across the hills of Mecca:

“And your God is One God: there is no god but He...” (Quran 2:163)

The Holy Quran states this fact clearly:

“And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad) but We revealed to him (saying): ‘none has the right to be worshipped but I, so worship Me.’” (Quran 21:25)

God chose the best among humanity to deliver His message. Prophethood is not earned or acquired like higher education. God chooses whom He pleases for this purpose.

They were the best in morals and they were mentally and physically fit, protected by God from falling into cardinal, major sins. They did not err or commit mistakes in delivering the message. They were over one hundred thousand prophets sent to all mankind, to all nations and races, in all corners of the world. Some prophets were superior to others. The best among them were Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon them all.

People went to extremes with the prophets. They were rejected and accused of being sorcerers, madmen, and liars. Others turned them into gods by giving them divine powers, or declared them to be His children, like what happened to Jesus.

In truth, they were fully human with no divine attributes or power. They were God’s worshipping slaves. They ate, drank, slept, and lived normal human lives. They did not have the power to make anyone accept their message or to forgive sins. Their knowledge of future was limited to what God revealed to them. They had no part in running the affairs of the universe.

Out of the Infinite Mercy and Love of God, He sent to humanity prophets, guiding them to that which is the best. He sent them as an example for humanity to follow, and if one does follow their example, they would live a life in accordance to the Will of God, earning His Love and Pleasure

Oneness of God : Al- Quran 112:1-4


Say: He is God, the One and Only;

God, the Eternal, Absolute;

He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

And there is none like unto Him.




The false notion you mentioned of forced conversions is very false indeed and i don't know which sources you have been looking into but they are clearly false.

No Compulsion in Religion Al- Quran 2:256

Let there be no compulsion in religion:

Truth stands out clear from Error:

whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand- hold, that never breaks.

And God heareth and knoweth all things.



His companions voluntarily reverted to Islam because they knew that this was without a doubt the final messenger of God. His character was impeccable, his morals his whole persona and everything about him was perfect that is way even before prophethood they called him Muhammed the reliable because he was such an honest man who always kept to his word and never did any person wrong. He was the most forgiving of people but with the most amazing of hearts. He never refused anyone. He gave women rights those 1500 years ago when women just started to have some sort of freedom from oppression in the west in the early 70's. Before his prophethood it was an evil time like the dark ages but his light shone through and he brought law and order to the lands and implemented the laws of God and the final stage of the progressive way of life which is Islam which started from Adam (As) and finally finished with Muhammed (Pbuh).

It is the media and people with no knowledge or try and portray false images about Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) just like they have done with Islam. You ask any revert and they will tell you the same thing that they thought bad of Islam and Muhammed (Pbuh) before they cam to Islam and it is because of the media and other people who purposley try to portray a bad image about Islam and our Prophet (Pbuh) just to defame Islam.

Until this day not one mistake has been found in the Qur'an after 1500 years. The Qur'an is today how it was revealed over 1500 years ago.

Linguists have stated that there is such a unique linguistical structure in the Qur'an that it is impossible to add or delete anything from it without makeing it obvious that a verse has been taken out. This is the reason why the Qur'an was revealed in this language. It is a truly remarkable book which is perfect to the letter.

Also just to clarify that there is no step between us and God. There is no intermediary like there is in Christianity. There is a direct connection between us and God and there is NOTHING in between. This is another reason why so many are attracted to the truth of Islam because we have a direct and the closest relationship possible with God without anything in between.


Finally i will leave you with thise most beautiful verse from the Qur'an:

Al- Quran 2:255

God! There is no god but He, the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal.

No slumber can seize Him nor sleep.

His are all things in the heavens and on earth.

Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth?

He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them.

Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth.

His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).


If you have any questions at all then please don't hesitate to ask for we are here for you. Thank you for reading
 
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hi bro how are you

first of all not all the non muslims will go to hill

non muslims consist of

1-people who have not heared about islam

2-people who heared about islam but they heared some things like

muslims are worshiping mohammed or black box etc so they did not know the real message

these people and Allah knows best Allah will test them in the here after

and they called the people of Aaraaf

3-people who have heared about islam and the message these people

and Allah knows best will go to hill fire

Allah only can judge

i have got this ftwa from a very good scholar in SaudiArabia

he travels all over the world to call people to islam so he knows the situation of people

slam
 
Bismillah,

My fellow brother in humanity,

Let me start by correcting your some of your statements in which you said:

The prophets are held in such reverence, but I'm not saying Muhammad was a bad person. He was a human like you and me, and humans make mistakes.

Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was protected by Allah from commiting mistakes when preaching Islam.

Click here, if you would like to read a detailed Islamic verdict (fatwa) on this issue.

Some people in his time were forced to accept Islam, when submitting to the will of God should be done by one's own free will. I don't like the idea that there is a step between Common Man and God.

I do not know of any situation in which Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) himself forced others to Islam or told his companions to do likewise. So if you are going to make an allegation, then atleast bring some evidence. Otherwise, you are spreading false information.

As a matter of fact, it is clearly stated in the Noble Qur'an (interpretaion of the meaning):

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." [Qur'an 2:256]​


Now responding to your doubts:

Prophets (peace and blessings be upon them) are sent by Allah to mankind for guidance. They, the Prophets (peace and blessings be upon them), are our prime role models. So this is one of the ways in which Allah gives guidance to mankind.

The Prophets (peace and blessings be upon them) do not spread information based on their desires. They only come with that which their Lord commands them with.

It is stated in the Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning):

"Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much." [Qur'an 33:21]​

So my honest and sincere advice to you is to constantly humble yourself and attain sincerity. Ask Allah, your Lord and my Lord, who is One, to guide you to His path.

For more studying into Islam then I would recommend this link.

May Allah guide you.
 
I didn't say it was Muhammad. I saw a documentary about Islam on youtube. They said followers in South and Central Asia forced indigenous tribes to convert. It wasn't anti-Islam, because they said a lot of good things about it as well. The again, can you really trust media? So yeah, the three things that are really holding me back are the Prophets held in such high regard, but mnot that much now that it has been explained, the idea that non-Muslims have no favor in God's eyes, and Surah 5:51.
 
I didn't say it was Muhammad. I saw a documentary about Islam on youtube. They said followers in South and Central Asia forced indigenous tribes to convert. It wasn't anti-Islam, because they said a lot of good things about it as well. The again, can you really trust media? So yeah, the three things that are really holding me back are the Prophets held in such high regard, but mnot that much now that it has been explained, the idea that non-Muslims have no favor in God's eyes, and Surah 5:51.

Hello again Boaz, The media will always try to mix falsehood with the truth to try and make it out that the falsehood they have attributed to Islam is also true. It's a very clever trick they always use.

Dawah which means to invite others to Islam can ONLY be done through informing in a beautiful manner as prescribed by God in the Qur'an. We as Muslims do not force anyone to believe what we do.

God says:

And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith. (17:53, 54)

Forced conversions has in the past and still is the way of the Christian missionaries and this is a very well known fact for they use dirty tricks to force and bring people to their religion. In Islam there is no such thing as forcing someone to convert because one can ONLY convert to islam by their heart NOT their tongue. There is no compulsion in religion for God has given all of us free will to take whatever path we like.

God makes this clear in the Qur'an:

There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing. (2:256)

We as Muslims can only inform and that is including the Prophets. They only informed as best they could but in it is ONLY God that can guide anyone and he guides whom he wishes.

But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you). (16:82)

The question you have posed in regards to the fate of non Muslims is answered by traditional Islam according to two possibilities:[/B]

(1) There are some peoples who have not been reached by the message of the Prophet of Islam (Allah bless him and give him peace) that we must worship the One God alone, associating nothing else with Him. Such people are innocent, and will not be punished no matter what they do. Allah says in surat al-Isra',

"We do not punish until We send a Messenger" (Qur'an 17:15).

These include, for example, Christians and others who lived in the period after the spread of the myth of Jesus godhood, until the time of the prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace), who renewed the call to pure monotheism.

The great Muslim scholar, Imam Ghazali (RA), includes in this category those who have only been reached with a distorted picture of the Messenger of Islam (Allah bless him and give him peace), presumably including many people in the West today who know nothing about Allah's religion but newspaper stories about Ayatollahs and mad Muslim bombers. Is it within such people's capacity to believe? In Ghazali's view, such people are excused until after they have had an opportunity to learn the undistorted truth about Islam (Ghazali: "Faysal al - tafriqa," Majmu'a rasa'il al-Imam al-Ghazali, 3.96).

(2) A second group of people consists of those who turn away from God's divine message of Islam, rejecting the command to make their worship God's alone; whether because of blindly imitating the religion of their ancestors, or for some other reason. These are people to whom God has sent a prophetic messenger and reached with His message, and to whom He has given hearing and an intellect with which to grasp it but after all this, persist in associating others with Allah, either by actually worshipping another, or by rejecting the laws brought by His messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace), which associates their own customs with His prerogative to be worshipped as He directs. Such people have violated God's rights, and have accepted to go to hell, which is precisely what His messengers have warned them of, so they have no excuse:

"Truly, God does not forgive that any be associated with Him; but He forgives what is less than that to whomever He wills" (Qur'an 4:48).

In either case, God's mercy exists, though for non-Muslims unreached by the message, it is a question of divine amnesty for their ignorance, not a confirmation of their religions validity. It is worth knowing the difference between these two things, for one's eternal fate depends on it.

If you have any other questions then please do not hesitate to ask for we are here to help as much as we can for we are only informers but only God guides.
 
I didn't say it was Muhammad. I saw a documentary about Islam on youtube. They said followers in South and Central Asia forced indigenous tribes to convert. It wasn't anti-Islam, because they said a lot of good things about it as well. The again, can you really trust media? So yeah, the three things that are really holding me back are the Prophets held in such high regard, but mnot that much now that it has been explained, the idea that non-Muslims have no favor in God's eyes, and Surah 5:51.

In regards to another question you posed about Surah 5:51. These are one of the verses that the media and non Muslims love to distort without knowing its true meaning in context.

O, you who believe [in the message of Muhammad], do not take Jews and Christians as awliya’. They are awliya’ to one another, and the one among you who turns to them is of them.

Truly, God does not guide wrongdoing folk.


The word awliya’ (sing. “wali”), mean's “friends,” and additional meanings such as “guardians,” “protectors” and even “legal guardians.”

Interestingly enough, we find that when we consult the traditional commentaries on the Quran we are told that this verse was revealed at a particularly delicate moment in the life of the early Muslim community, and here it is necessary to explain, to a certain extent, what was the existential situation of the Muslims at this time in Arabia so as to situate verse 5:51 within its proper circumstances.


Before 5:51 was revealed, the Prophet of Islam and the Muslims had only recently migrated as a community from Makkah to Medina, some 400 km to the north. They had done so, according to Islamic histories, due to the persecution to which they were subjected at the hands of their fellow tribesmen and relatives in Makkah. Most Makkans worshipped various idols as “gods” and feared the rise of interest in the message of Muhammad within the city, even though Muhammad was himself a son of Makkah. The

Makkans feared the growing presence of the Muslims because the Muslims claimed that there was only one true God, who had no physical image, and who required of men: virtue, generosity and fair and kind treatment of the weaker members of society. This simple message, in fact, threatened to overturn the social order of Makkah, based as it was upon the worship of multiple gods and the privilege of the strong and the wealthy. It also threatened to disrupt the economic benefits of this privilege, the annual pilgrimage season when people from all over the Arabian peninsula would come to worship the many idols/gods at the Ka`bah—a cubical structure which the Quran claims was originally built by Abraham and his son, Ishmael, as a temple to the one God, before the decadence of religion in Arabia.


The message of Islam threatened to replace the social and economic system of Makkan polytheism, with the worship of the one God, Who—as in the stories of the Old Testament—would not allow that others be worshipped alongside Him. In this difficult environment the Prophet of Islam preached peacefully his message of monotheism and virtue, but he and his small band of followers were eventually driven from the city by torture, threats of assassination and various other forms of humiliation and abuse. The Muslims then migrated to the city of Medina where the Prophet had been invited to come and live in safety with his followers and where the main Arab tribes of the city had willingly accepted his message.


According to the commentary tradition in Islam, it was not long after this migration to Medina that verse 5:51 was revealed. Specifically, we are told that this verse came down around the time of the battle of Badr (2 A.H. / 623 A.D.) or perhaps after the battle of Uhud (3 A.H. / 625 A.D.). In these early days, even though the Muslim community constituted no more than perhaps a few hundred people and had already left the city of Makkah, yet the Makkans continued to confront them militarily, and these two early battles, as well as others, were crucial events in the history of the early Islamic community.


Militarily, the Makkans were a far more powerful force than the Muslims, and in addition, the Makkans had allies throughout Arabia. Given the small numbers of the Muslims, the Prophet and his fledgling community faced the real possibility of utter annihilation should they lose any of these early conflicts. Within this highly charged environment some members of the Muslim community wanted to make individual alliances with other non-Muslim tribes in the region. Within the city of Medina there were Jewish tribes who constituted a powerful presence in the town and who were on good terms with the Makkans, and to the north of the city there were also numerous Christian Arab tribes. Some Muslims saw the possibility of taking alliances with one or more of these groups as a way of guaranteeing their own survival should the Makkan armies ultimately triumph. This was the stark reality of Arabia at that time, that it was only through the protection of one’s tribe or one’s alliances with other tribes or clans that one’s own individual security was insured.


From the perspective of Islam, however, the Prophet realized that a young community, faced with great peril, could not allow such “dissension” in the ranks of the faithful as would be created by various individuals taking bonds of loyalty with other groups not committed to the Islamic message. Indeed, from the Islamic point of view such actions, had they been allowed, would have been a kind of communal suicide that would have seriously undermined Muslim unity, broken the morale of the community and perhaps caused the many individuals taking such alliances to lack fortitude in the face of the clear and present danger of the Makkan armies and their allies.


Keeping all these historical issues in mind, it becomes obvious that the translation of awliya’ as “friends” is wrong and that it should be rendered as “protectors” or “guardians” in the strict military sense of these terms. The verse should be read as, “Do not take Christians and Jews as your protectors. They are protectors to one another....” This is the message of the verse, and the appropriateness of this understanding is supported not only by the historical context for its revelation but also by the fact that nowhere does the Quran oppose simple kindness between peoples, as is clear from other Quranic verses such as,


God does not forbid that you should deal kindly and justly with those who do not fight you for the sake of [your] religion or drive you out of your homes. Truly, God loves those

who are just.
[60:8]

and

The good deed and the evil deed are not equal. Repel [the evil deed] with one that is better. Then truly the one, between you and he is enmity, shall become as a bosom friend. [41:34]

Please feel free to ask us any question you like and we will try our best to help you. Thank you for reading.
 
the idea that non-Muslims have no favor in God's eyes, and Surah 5:51.
Addressing surah 5:51

5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends: They are but friends to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

The first point to be noted is that, in the verse above, the word Awliya is often incorrectly translated as friends (Awliya is the plural and its singular is wali and the concept is walaah). As a result, many people are under the misconception that this verse commands Muslims to distance themselves from Non-Muslims and to avoid friendship with them. This is far from the truth, as we shall see after examining the meaning of the word Awliya. The Qur'an says:
3:122 ...Allah was their WALI (protector), and in Allah should the faithful (Ever) put their trust.

This verse indicates that a wali is one in whom trust is placed for protection, as the Qur'an always declares God the protector, wali, of the righteous. As Dr. Saeed Ismail Sieny concludes his discussion on Walaah by writing:

As we have discovered above, the root of the word "al-walaah" does not include love, support, etc., and that the core meaning rests on guardianship. (Sieny, The Relationship Between Muslims and Non-Muslims; Toronto, Al-Attique Publishers Inc., 2000, p. 102, emphasis added)

And Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi writes:
In the verse you quoted, the word "Awliya" is used. It is a plural and its singular is "wali". The correct translation of the word ""wali"" is not "friend" but it is someone who is very close and intimate. It is also used to mean "guardian, protector, patron, lord and master". In the Qur'an this word is used for God, such as “Allah is the Protector (or Lord and Master) of those who believe. He takes them out from the depths of darkness to light…” (Al- Baqarah: 257)

There are many other references in the Qur'an that give this meaning. The same word is also sometimes used in the Qur'an for human beings, such as

“And whosoever is killed unjustly, We have granted his next kin "wali" the authority (to seek judgment or punishment in this case)…”(Al-‘Isra' :33)
(SOURCE emphasis added)

It becomes clear that the word Awliya cannot be taken as simply referring to friendship, as it contains a much more complex meaning, including dependence and guardianship. Therefore, a more accurate translation of the verse would be:

5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your protectors: They are but protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Therefore, the referred verse does not prohibit friendship with Non-Muslims at all. Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi writes:
The Qur'an does not say that non-Muslims cannot be Muslims' friends, nor does it forbid Muslims to be friendly to non-Muslims. There are many non-Muslims who are good friends of Muslim individuals and the Muslim community. There are also many good Muslims who truly and sincerely observe their faith and are very friendly to many non-Muslims at the same time. Islam teaches us that we should be friendly to all people. Islam teaches us that we should deal even with our enemies with justice and fairness. Allah says in the Qur'an in the beginning of the same Surah Al-Ma’dah:
“O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah as witnesses to fair dealings and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just, that is next to piety. Fear Allah, indeed Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.” (Al-Ma’dah :8)

In another place in the Qur'an, Allah Almighty says:

“Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for your faith, and drive you out of your homes and support others in driving you out, from turning to them for protection (or taking them as wali). Those who seek their protection they are indeed wrong- doers.” (Al-Mumtahinah: 8-9)

Moreover, Allah Almighty has described Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, as "a mercy" to the worlds. He was a sign of Allah's Mercy to all, Muslims as well as non-Muslims. In his kindness and fair treatment he did not make any difference between the believers and non-believers. He was kind to the pagans of Makkah and fought them only when they fought him. He made treaties with the Jews of Madinah and honored the treaties until they broke them. He, peace and blessings be upon him, is reported to have received the Christians of Najran with kindness in his Masjid in Madinah. They argued with him about Islam, but he returned them with honor and respect. There are many examples from his life that show that he was the friendliest person to all people. (SOURCE)

However, as has been made abundantly clear in 60: 7-9 (and implied in verse 57 of this Surah), this prohibition of a "moral alliance" with non-Muslims does not constitute an injunction against normal, friendly relations with such of them as are well-disposed towards Muslims. It should be borne in mind that the term wall has several shades of meaning: "ally", "friend", "helper", "protector", etc. The choice of the particular term - and sometimes a -combination of two terms-is always dependent on the context.

The second point to note is that although this verse makes a general statement, the ruling is specific and is to be applied in a context similar to the historical context. Shaykh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi wrote about this topic extensively in response to a similar question:
[The answer to this is that these verses are not unconditional, to be applied to every Jew, Christian, or non-Muslim. Interpreting them in this manner contradicts the injunctions of the Qur'an which enjoin affection and kindness to the good and peace-loving peoples of every religion, as well as the verses which permit marriage to the women of the People of the Book, with all that Allah says concerning marriage
and He has put love and mercy between you” (30:21)

and the verse concerning the Christians:

And thou wilt find those who say, 'Surely we are Christians,' to be nearest to them (the Muslims in affection...(5:82)

The verses cited above [verse 5:51] were revealed in connection with those people who were hostile to Islam and made war upon the Muslims. Accordingly, it is not permissible for the Muslims to support or assist them - that is, to be their ally- nor to entrust them with secrets at the expense of his own religion and community. This point is explained in other verses, in which Allah, The Most High, says:

They will spare nothing to ruin you; they yearn for what makes you suffer. Hatred has been expressed by their mouths, but what their hearts conceal is still greater. Thus have We made clear to you the revelations (or signs), if you possess understanding. Ah! You love them, but they do not love you…(3:118-119)

This ayah throws light on the character of such people, who conceal great enmity and hatred against the Muslims in their hearts and whose tongues express some of the effects of such hostility. (Al-Qaradawi, Al-Halal Wal Haram Fil Islam; US American Trust Publications, 1994, p. 340, emphasis added)

As Shaykh Qaradawi mentioned, verse 5:11 cannot possibly be taken as a prohibition of friendship since the Qur’an allows Muslim men to marry women from the People of the Book:
5:5 … virtuous women of the believers and the virtuous women of those who received the Scripture before you are lawful for you…

And the Qur’an describes the relationship of marriage to be a relationship with the deepest bond of love:

30:21 And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquility with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect.

Also note that the Qur’an says:

60:8-9 Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of [your] religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show “Birr” with them and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of [your] religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up [others] in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.

The word “birr” is the same word used to describe a Muslim’s relationship with their parents which is considered the most sacred blood relationship in Islam. Therefore, Muslims are clearly commanded to deal with peaceful non-Muslims is a friendly and peaceful manner. The third point is that the specific groups being referred to in this verse were those hostile to Islam, and not all Jews and Christians in general. Concerning the historical context, the verse was revealed during a time when the Muslims were being attacked from many directions, including the Christian Roman empire and the Jews of Madinah. The Muslims had originally made a pact with the Jews of Madinah, but they were betrayed twice. So in this context, the Qur'an was telling the believers to be cautious in dealings with such enemies who oppose Islam, and not to trust them as protectors. As Jasser Auda writes:

It was revealed in certain historic circumstances, in which there was a war between the infant Islamic state on different occasions on four different fronts: the Romans, the Persians, the pagans of Arabia, and the Jews of Madinah. So, the historic context of the revelation of this verse is a situation of war between Muslims and the People of the Book (Jews, internally in Madinah, and Christians, through a Roman crusade). So, yes, Muslims were not allowed to make friends with the enemies who were fighting them and wishing to eliminate them from the face of the earth. Some Muslims say that since the verse has this historic context, then it is part of history and no longer applies. This is not correct! It is true that the verse has a history behind it, but this does not mean that it is no longer relevant. It is totally relevant but only in a context similar to the historic context. So today Muslims are not to make friends with Jews or Christians (or followers of any other religion for that matter) if they try to kill Muslims, kick them out of their homes, etc.

The Qur'anic verse is relevant in a similar context to the historical context. A Muslim cannot take Jews or Christians or anyone as protectors if they oppose their religion and its teachings. The Muslims are encouraged to rely on each other for support. Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi writes:
It is obvious that Jews patronize the Jews and Christians patronize the Christians, so why not Muslims patronize Muslims and support their own people. This verse is not telling us to be against Jews or Christians, but it is telling us that we should take care of our own people and we must support each other. In his Tafsir, (Qur’an exegesis) Imam Ibn Kathir has mentioned that some scholars say that this verse (i.e. the one you referred to) was revealed after the Battle of Uhud when Muslims had a set back. At that time, a Muslim from Madinah said, "I am going to live with Jews so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madinah." And another person said, "I am going to live with Christians so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madinah." So Allah revealed this verse reminding the believers that they should not seek the protection from others, but should protect each other. (See Ibn Kathir, Al-Tafsir, vol. 2, p. 68) (SOURCE)[/
The groups prohibited for Muslims to take as protectors are described in the Qur’an:
The Holy Qur'an, 60:1 O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as protectors,- offering them (your) love, even though they have rejected the Truth that has come to you, and have (on the contrary) driven out the Prophet and yourselves (from your homes), (simply) because ye believe in Allah your Lord! If ye have come out to strive in My Way and to seek My Good Pleasure, (take them not as friends), holding secret converse of love (and friendship) with them: for I know full well all that ye conceal and all that ye reveal. And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path. 60:2 If they were to get the better of you, they would behave to you as enemies, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you for evil: and they desire that ye should reject the Truth.

So the Qur'an forbids taking those as protectors who expel the Muslims from their homes and who would betray and attack as soon as the opportunity arises. Those who have no respect for a Muslim’s beliefs and desire that the Muslim leaves their faith - they cannot be taken as protectors. This is the correct interpretation based on the context of the verse. To conclude, we once again quote Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi:

Muslims are allowed to have non-Muslims as friends as long as they keep their own faith and commitment to Islam pure and strong. You are correct in pointing out that a Muslim man is also allowed to marry a Jewish or Christian woman. It is obvious that one marries someone for love and friendship. If friendship between Muslims and Jews or Christians was forbidden, then why would Islam allow a Muslim man to marry a Jew or Christian woman? It is the duty of Muslims to patronize Muslims. They should not patronize any one who is against their faith or who fights their faith, even if they were their fathers and brothers. Allah says:
“O you who believe! Take not for protectors (Awliya') your fathers and your brothers if they love unbelief above faith. If any of you do so, they are indeed wrong-doers.” (Al-Tawbah : 23)

In a similar way, the Qur'an also tells Muslims that they should never patronize the non-Muslims against other Muslims. However, if some Muslims do wrong to some non-Muslims, it is Muslim’s duty to help the non-Muslims and save them from oppression . The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said that he himself will defend a Dhimmi living among Muslims to whom injustice is done by Muslims. But Islam also teaches that Muslims should not seek the patronage of non-Muslims against other Muslims. They should try to solve their problems among themselves.

Islam is a religion of peace and compassion, therefore it requires its adherents to act in the best possible manner to other human beings. Verse 5:51 does not refer to friends, but protectors, and the historical context reveals that this verse prohibits Muslims from seeking the protection and allegiance of those who are hostile to the Islamic faith. It is not a reference to all Non-Muslims, as the scholars of Islam have clarified.

Source: http://www.load-islam.com/artical_det.php?artical_id=414&subsection=Misconceptions#19
 
Salaam/Peace

the idea that non-Muslims have no favor in God's eyes, and Surah 5:51.

Does Islam Forbid Befriending Non-Muslims?

Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. For Allah loves those who are just.

Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for your faith, and drive you out of your homes and support others in driving you out, from turning to them for protection (or taking them as wali).

Those who seek their protection they are indeed wrong- doers.] (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 8-9)

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Allah Almighty has described Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) as "a mercy" to the worlds. He was a sign of Allah's Mercy to all, Muslims as well as non-Muslims. In his kindness and fair treatment he did not make any difference between the believers and non-believers. He was kind to the pagans of Makkah and fought them only when they fought him. He made treaties with the Jews of Madinah and honored the treaties until they broke them.

He (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have received the Christians of Najran with kindness in his Masjid in Madinah. They argued with him about Islam, but he returned them with honor and respect. There are many examples from his life that show that he was the friendliest person to all people.


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Thank you, Skye. Another thing that is holding me back is the idea that all non-Muslims will go to Hell. I can't see that as a true interpretation of God's word.

i dont know what ignorant person told you that but its not true how could they go to hell if they have not heard the message of islam correctly?

my family have not received the message of islam properly and if they die there will be no blame on them but the blame will be on me because every muslim is given that responsibility to send the true message out to everybody inshaAllah and if they dont accept then only Allah knows best what he will do with them but we cannot judge.

i would recommend you see a local scholar and u can ask him anything u want to know. i would be personally worried about you wanting to find out stuff on here because people are not educated as a scholar would to help u on your way.

may Allah make it easy on you ameen:)
 
I didn't say it was Muhammad. I saw a documentary about Islam on youtube. They said followers in South and Central Asia forced indigenous tribes to convert. It wasn't anti-Islam, because they said a lot of good things about it as well. The again, can you really trust media? So yeah, the three things that are really holding me back are the Prophets held in such high regard, but mnot that much now that it has been explained, the idea that non-Muslims have no favor in God's eyes, and Surah 5:51.

Hello Boaz, if you have any other questions to ask then please feel free to do so. I hope we have answered your previous questions.
 
Well brother the thing is that Muhammad saaws is the Messenger of Allah. Nobody can be forced into Islam and nobody at his time was. They brought Islam and only the true people who accepted it with their hearts are Muslim. Only with the tongue doesn't count the person must believe it too. Muhammad is the final messenger of Allah and Allah swt loves all humans and one of the best is Muhammad saaws because he helped give guidance from Allah to everybody. We never put Muhammad saaws to the status of Allah swt but we say he brought us the message of Allah swt like the other prophets did and worked hard to be able to get Islam to be introduced into the world in the right way and show everybody blessings. Everything we know about Islam now was sent by Allah to the prophets to teach us. Since Muhammad saaws is the final messenger we must acknowledge he is and also accept his teachings that are from Allah swt. I hope you consider reverting not because I'm muslim telling you this but because you'll enjoy once you come to Islam and you have nothing to lose everything to gain. Salam and best wishes and you will be successful my bro :)
 
I was telling a scholar on the phone that if I ever do revert, I do not want there to be any doubt at all in my mind. I still have some doubts, like with Sura 9:30/31 (we do not hold anybody to be the son of God, nor do we hold our priests as partners of God, any Jew who'd think that way is/was committing a very serious act of blasphemy) and I believe that God loves all mankind and allows them into Jannah based on their own merits, not just religious practices. Now, do not take this as criticism of Islam, but of certain religious leaders in general. People in power can use religion and manipulate it to their advantage. Examples include the Christian crusaders, certain Jewish leaders in history, and the Saudi royalty, the Taliban, and Ruhollah Khomeini in Islam. This is a reason why I am reluctant to stick a religious label to myself.
 
I was telling a scholar on the phone that if I ever do revert, I do not want there to be any doubt at all in my mind. I still have some doubts, like with Sura 9:30/31 (we do not hold anybody to be the son of God, nor do we hold our priests as partners of God, any Jew who'd think that way is/was committing a very serious act of blasphemy) and I believe that God loves all mankind and allows them into Jannah based on their own merits, not just religious practices. Now, do not take this as criticism of Islam, but of certain religious leaders in general. People in power can use religion and manipulate it to their advantage. Examples include the Christian crusaders, certain Jewish leaders in history, and the Saudi royalty, the Taliban, and Ruhollah Khomeini in Islam. This is a reason why I am reluctant to stick a religious label to myself.
Firstly, I think the best way to explain the concept of heaven and Hell and who goes there is through an analogy.

Say you are in school and the teacher sets you an assignemt. of course with this assignemt comes a criterea and the teacher will set out what it is that he/she expects of you. now student x completes and ticks the boxes of all critea and thus gets a high grade. however student y fulfills hardly anything of this, and thus gets a much lower grade.

now why should the teacher award student y with a high grade if the basic requirements by him/her have not been fulfilled. is it not unfair to the other students who pulled their weight through and actually ticked all the boxes that person y gets good grades despite the fact that they haven't worked for it? something to think about.

i actually remember in my school days if a student does extra work to improve their assignment score, then they wouldn't be awarded for it, despite it being relevant. why? because it wasn't required of them to begin with....it wasn't a part of the criteria and thus they weren't awarded anything. i know this is a little different to what you are asking, but its sort of the same thing in essence.

secondly, about governments using the religion for their own needs. of course this is wrong, but if you think about it, its not really your problem to deal with. what im getting at is that you shouldnt concern yourself and what others do and it shoudnt affect your outlook on what you percive Islam as. what people do and what Islam teachers, can be 2 very very different things, so bear that in mind.

you should concentrate on your own faith and try your best to abide by the rules...do what is upon you and leave others at what they are. the only time you should concern yourself with others, is to advise and guide those that you feel may need it. but overally this shouldn't affect your faith.
 

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