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Tragic Typos said:
So this is Britain in the 21st century? :skeleton: Look how civilized, secular and free we are!
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I don't think Britain was civilized in any century, if wealth and power is established on stealing the wealth and invading sovereign nations then in the eyes of the world that makes Britain and its other western counterparts rather savage.. I think they have taken to rating themselves.. fluff to makeup for their heinous history!

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sweet106 said:
I knew someone was going to eventually use this to bash Britain like majority of British people are doing this. Last time, I checked those scumbags were a minority.
How about the community spirit in Southall, Ealing, south London etc were people came out to clean this mess and protect their property!
Also, it is not just non Muslim, I saw Muslim scumbags loot and I told their parents! Also, some scumbags are posting pictures on facebook showing off what they looted. I ‘grassed’ to the police! No mercy! I feel sorry for the police; they are overstretched already before David announced cuts.
The police have my full support, water cannon etc , whatever it takes. I would personally recommend beating the hell out of them.
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Looters were a big problem after Hurricane Katrina and after the tornadoes that came through my area a few months ago. There is one way to take care of that problem. I think all looters should be shot on sight. It only takes one to be shot for the rest to run away and never come back...
 
i think it's sad and wrong that these kids are looting - but i can see that they have been conditioned to think by the british media that "rebels" who loot and plunder innocent people as long as they don't like the government:

Wednesday 13 July 2011
Libyan rebel forces have looted shops, homes and medical facilities in some of the towns they seized in the country's western mountains, Human Rights Watch has said.
In several towns, the rebels torched homes believed to belong to supporters of Muammar Gaddafi, the New York-based group said on Wednesday.


Thursday, 28 April 2011

Britain has not ruled out arming rebels in Libya, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The UK is already providing some logistical equipment and military advisers to the opposition forces on the ground in Libya, as well as playing a large role in Nato-led aerial operations.

In an interview broadcast on US TV network CBS last night, Mr Cameron was asked whether he could envisage arming the rebel forces "in a more significant way".
He replied: "I wouldn't rule that out, but what we have done so far is we've helped the rebels, in line with the UN resolution 1973, to protect civilian life by giving them better communications equipment."


Tuesday, 1 March 2011

David Cameron yesterday warned the Libyan regime that world leaders could impose a no-fly zone over the country and even arm rebel leaders, as international attempts to pressure Muammar Gaddafi to relinquish power intensified.
British government officials even left open the prospect of western land forces being sent as a last resort into Libya to protect civilians, while the European Union imposed an asset freeze and an arms embargo in a bid to tighten the noose on Gaddafi.

"We do not in any way rule out the use of military assets. We must not tolerate this regime using military forces against its own people," he said.


Tuesday 9 August 2011

Calling in the army to help quell the looting and disorder in Britain would be a last resort, experts have said.
There would be political and practical difficulties, said Dominic Bryan, director of the Institute of Irish studies at Queen's University, Belfast, a city that experienced troops on the streets for decades.


09/08/2011

Calls are being made for the Army to be mobilised and to use not lethal force to quell the rioters and looters. Extra manpower is seriously needed.
After 1,700 police officers were deployed in London last night, and a total of 16,000 will be tonight, after yet again shops were looted and buildings were set alight.
Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham and Bristol have also now seen violence.
Theresa May still has the option available and she has not ruled out calling in the British Army to help police in breaking the demonstrations and rioting.
The home secretary has said that unrest needed to stop, but cited that she prefers robust policing and good use of intelligence as the means to end the Anarchy.

what we forget all too easily is the disdain peaceful protesters are looked upon with and how they are ignored - and how these youths have for the last few months watched the british media condone and even encourage the rioting which has taken place in the countries where leaders spoke out against zionist crimes.




the family of that man wrongly accused of shooting at police - who was shot to death by the police with a sub machine gun went to the police station and waited over four hours for the chief officer "who was busy" to come and give them an explanation - they went in peace and wanted some dignity and some answers, when he kept them waiting over four hours - some "bad people" felt they were being treated with disrespect and all hell broke loose.

i'm not saying what the kids did was right, but i am asking how people are to stand up and square off to a government which considers itself above the people it is supposed to serve without things getting violent? when the people are treated with disdain, when the economy is in tatters due to banker bailouts and foreclosures, when the government is expanding it's inherited illegal wars and further bankrupting the economy, when it tells the people there is going to be a 75% reduction in youth initiative services, and that people's pensions are going to be wiped out, but the illegal wars must continue and the banks must rob the people who are forced into default - by default - people can tend to become a little frustrated.

do you know that the usury based system can only get worse due to compound interest and the fact that the "copyrighted" money lent out on interest can't be paid back in capital + interest without people creating fake money at home, (coz if the central bank creates it again - it lends it out on interest again!).

see my moneychangers page here for more info on how this scam works: http://abz2000.com/TheMoneyChangers.aspx

Those who devour usury will not stand except as stand one whom the Satan by his touch Hath driven to madness.
That is because they say: "Trade is like usury,"
but Allah hath permitted trade and forbidden usury.
Those who after receiving direction from their Lord, desist, shall be pardoned for the past; their case is for Allah (to judge);
but those who repeat (The offence) are companions of the Fire: They will abide therein (for ever).
Quran 2:275

when will people ask: who is robbing us blind in trillions? who is repossessing people's houses on a much higher scale than the houses those kids damaged? who is really the enemy of the nation?











 
King of Nines said:
There is one way to take care of that problem. I think all looters should be shot on sight. It only takes one to be shot for the rest to run away and never come back...
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I agree. Emergency and drastic situation requires drastic action in equal measure.
 
Now that several people have died, not doing whatever it takes to stop the riots immediately would be to put the well-being of the rioters above the well-being of their victims. Fix bayonets and advance.

As a guy on another forum said, those guys who quelled the Nika riots knew how it's done :raging:
 
imsad imsad imsad imsad imsad imsad

I feel sorry 4 tht guy !

btw why did he go out in middle of a riot ?

hmm any way wht would you do if you get mugged ? in a riot or in any place ?
 
Mr.President said:
imsad imsad imsad imsad imsad imsad

I feel sorry 4 tht guy !

btw why did he go out in middle of a riot ?

hmm any way wht would you do if you get mugged ? in a riot or in any place ?
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Salaam,

I think he was going back home. He was on his bike but that got stolen.
 
Greetings and peace be with you τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;

I don't think Britain was civilized in any century, if wealth and power is established on stealing the wealth and invading sovereign nations
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Very sadly, I have to agree with you.

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people

Eric
 
Greetings and peace be with you King of Nines;
I think all looters should be shot on sight. It only takes one to be shot for the rest to run away and never come back..
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Who is going to do the shooting, is it the police, do you seriously want to live in a state where the police shoot people.
One of the reasons given for the riots in the first place, was that the police shot a man a couple of days earlier. People started off with a peaceful protest against the shooting, but the protest got out of hand, and escalated into riots and looting.
Sadly like most nations we have moved too far away from God.
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In the spirit of praying for justice for all people
Eric
 
Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you King of Nines;

Who is going to do the shooting, is it the police, do you seriously want to live in a state where the police shoot people.
One of the reasons given for the riots in the first place, was that the police shot a man a couple of days earlier. People started off with a peaceful protest against the shooting, but the protest got out of hand, and escalated into riots and looting.
Sadly like most nations we have moved too far away from God.
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In the spirit of praying for justice for all people
Eric
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No, I was thinking private citizens should shoot the looters, to protect their lives and property. At least that's how it would be handled here in the US. I read stories about people doing just that during the looting that followed Hurricane Katrina. Several looters were shot and killed by citizens protecting their property. I have quite a few gun nut friends who wouldn't hesitate to waste some fool that was trying to jack their stuff.

But I forgot that the UK banned guns from private citizens. So maybe they could club them to death with a big stick. :D

I do agree that the Western nations, and the USA and UK in particular, have gotten far away from God.
 
King of Nines said:
No, I was thinking private citizens should shoot the looters, to protect their lives and property. At least that's how it would be handled here in the US. I read stories about people doing just that during the looting that followed Hurricane Katrina. Several looters were shot and killed by citizens protecting their property. I have quite a few gun nut friends who wouldn't hesitate to waste some fool that was trying to jack their stuff.

But I forgot that the UK banned guns from private citizens. So maybe they could club them to death with a big stick.

I do agree that the Western nations, and the USA and UK in particular, have gotten far away from God.
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in Islam, we are commanded to defend our properties, and in that situation, it becomes your jihad.
So if we die while defending our properties, then it counts as death in syahid, which means we will enter jannah without reckoning insha Allah.
 
Ramadhan said:


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in Islam, we are commanded to defend our properties, and in that situation, it becomes your jihad.
So if we die while defending our properties, then it counts as death in syahid, which means we will enter jannah without reckoning insha Allah.
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Well it's also common sense. I'm not going to stand around and let some lawless idiots break into my house, steal my stuff, and possibly harm me or my family either. I would fight back as best as I could, like the brothers who protected their masjid and their community. Those are the real heroes.
 
King of Nines said:
Well it's also common sense. I'm not going to stand around and let some lawless idiots break into my house, steal my stuff, and possibly harm me or my family either. I would fight back as best as I could, like the brothers who protected their masjid and their community. Those are the real heroes.
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you WOULD think it's common sense, but in other not-so practical and not-so applicable religions, such as buddhism and christianity, you would have to give your properties away when the looters ransack your properties (remember the left cheek right cheek christian philosophy)
 
Salaam,

I do support people to protect themselves and their property but they should avoid killing the individual committing the criminal act. To kill someone deliberately is not really self-defence....

Guns should only be used as a last resort.
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1458001 said:
I don't think Britain was civilized in any century, if wealth and power is established on stealing the wealth and invading sovereign nations then in the eyes of the world that makes Britain and its other western counterparts rather savage.. I think they have taken to rating themselves.. fluff to makeup for their heinous history!
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Seems a bit unfair to single out Britain, it's not as if that wasn't the usual way of accumulating 'wealth and power'. It was hardly restricted to 'the West', either.
 
Trumble said:
Seems a bit unfair to single out Britain, it's not as if that wasn't the usual way of accumulating 'wealth and power'. It was hardly restricted to 'the West', either.
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I don't think that it is unfair to 'single them out' considering their very dark, very bloody very greedy history but if you'd like others indeed have jumped on that bandwagon if mentioned here in singularity it is due to the fact that the very thread is dealing with an English problem..

best,
 

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