Cut..CUT..=Yes/No?!

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Crying is a better way of letting out everything lol, rather than self harm

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

^ i always found a bit of boxing to be best.

Allahu A'lam

Assalamu Alaikum

 

[Re.TiReD]

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Crying is a better way of letting out everything lol, rather than self harm

:salamext: or just pray? but yeah...anything is better than self harm, if you're gonna harm yourself and commit suicide, how will you be able to pray for Allah to remove your problem and give you something better? a problem is only another reason for you to ask from Allah and become closer to Him

 

[sevgi]

^^^its not always that easy...

when ur in it that deep...u need something really strong to pull u out...and faith aint always it...

a lil boxing doesnt turn suicidal people around...lol...

neither does praying-for most...u need a massive conscience and a massive external and internal influence to get u to get up and pray..or even make a dua...

u dnt wana do anything...remember...they just wana die...they just want to hurt.

u need to want to get better.

it is very hard.very strong.very deep.

 

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What would you suggest to get out of it sis?

 

[Ourra-Tul-'Ain]

Self harm really frustrates me! I dont understand the logic behind it. I think too many youths are unaware of the long term damage and the fact that its sinful. Surely the scars will bring back any pain you tried to supress by self harm. Why do it?!!?

mg::heated: subanAllah me too sis!!!

but u know Allah knows best.

Im just too much of a 'shook cat' to cut my selfhew

 

[Ourra-Tul-'Ain]

^^^its not always that easy...

when ur in it that deep...u need something really strong to pull u out...and faith aint always it...

a lil boxing doesnt turn suicidal people around...lol...

neither does praying-for most...u need a massive conscience and a massive external and internal influence to get u to get up and pray..or even make a dua...

u dnt wana do anything...remember...they just wana die...they just want to hurt.

u need to want to get better.



it is very hard.very strong.very deep.

really, SubhanAllah. it seems hard

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

well if you look at it from an islamic view, when our prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam began recieving revelations he tried jump off a cliff right?

or is that not an authentic narration? :?


what im getting at is, what lead him to that, and how did he recover from that?

 

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really, SubhanAllah. it seems hard

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It's really hard to come out of it once you've gone into it.

 

[sevgi]

...the person cant really do anything themselves...it depends on the person very much...u need the core of the issue...

u need a conscience...if that is dead..then u cant get thru to the person...

if the persons conscience is dead....they must regain hope.hope for the future..hope for themselves..

they need something strong to regain this hope.

ppl in depression usually push everyone away. u cant directly help them.

u need to find ways to perhaps make them meet new ppl, so they see future and new frendship possibilities...

try to 'catch' them in a depressive mood or moment and talk to them...IF they open up to u...tell them that u are there and that Allah is there...and La yukallifullahu nafsan illa vusaha...tell them u are gna be there every step of the way...take their hand and revise a plan together...open a physical new page book...write down daily steps...or weekly steps u are gna take together...

this takes comitment...dnt let go..or they will surely let go.make urself available all the time.depressive moods can hit anytime,...anywhere...for any reason or no reason at all.lonelyness is a no no! the moment they are alone.bang!

take away their rock songs.

give them time to think.lots of it. so....make them write letters to someone..u dnt have to be the person.i think this is the most important one...really.without this, ur efforts are like nothing.not a diary...letters to someone else...definietly.

try to get rid of the external core issue before u work on the internal stuff.

pray pray pray...

ummm...falling in love is always a good one.lol...i mean halal way...a reaaallly nice guy or girl...gives em hope.

anyways...these are just my views...im sure a psychologist would laugh at me...

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

ummm...falling in love is always a good one.lol...i mean halal way...a reaaallly nice guy or girl...gives em hope.

anyways...these are just my views...im sure a psychologist would laugh at me...

wa alaikum ussalaam wa rahmatullah

that can have the opposite affect aswell.. i know so many couples married/in love and then broken up/depressed...

without islaam, nothing works, and marriage is have of emaan... islaam cannot exist without emaan.

and most psychologists encourage companionship, so i doubt u'd be laughed at.

I think we should all learn to fall in love with ALlaah... just like sufyan ath-thawri rahimahullah in that poem !!

 

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take away their rock songs.

*cough*bollywood*cough*

try to get rid of the external core issue before u work on the internal stuff.

What do u mean sis?

 

[sevgi]

wa alaikum ussalaam wa rahmatullah

that can have the opposite affect aswell.. i know so many couples married/in love and then broken up/depressed...

without islaam, nothing works, and marriage is have of emaan... islaam cannot exist without emaan.

and most psychologists encourage companionship, so i doubt u'd be laughed at.

I think we should all learn to fall in love with ALlaah... just like sufyan ath-thawri rahimahullah in that poem !!

u cant tell anyone depressed to fall in love with Allah...they dnt care remember..they hate him for putting them in such a situation(towbah---but thats it) so u must be very careful with the islamic advice u give.bring it on them slowly...
dnt make it obvious bt always reinforce their imaan...thats what 'hope' is anyway...

i was writing for muslims and non-muslims...

peace.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

bollywood is like poison man, it just spreads and spreads and spreads and spreads and spreads till it devours ur heart :|


cure - QURAN

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

u cant tell anyone depressed to fall in love with Allah...they dnt care remember..they hate him for putting them in such a situation(towbah---but thats it) so u must be very careful with the islamic advice u give.bring it on them slowly...
dnt make it obvious bt always reinforce their imaan...thats what 'hope' is anyway...

i was writing for muslims and non-muslims...

peace.

yeah true but imagine they got the completely wrong understanding of what they're going through. THey think they're abandoned etc but for real they are saved from far worse.

Perhaps a bit of talking will remove all depression... i know someone recently that tried cuttin themselves up but just talking changed it all.

the tongue is a powerful tool...

 

[sevgi]

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What do u mean sis?

eg) say im depressed and it is because of my mum...all my life she has pstered me and put me thru hell and etc etc...

get rid of her. not physically ofcourse...

but make sure she is outta my head.

then u can work on the internal gunk i have built up because of my mum...

 

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u cant tell anyone depressed to fall in love with Allah...they dnt care remember..they hate him for putting them in such a situation(towbah---but thats it) so u must be very careful with the islamic advice u give.bring it on them slowly...
dnt make it obvious bt always reinforce their imaan...thats what 'hope' is anyway...

i was writing for muslims and non-muslims...

peace.

:salamext:

U take the words off my tongue woman... :hiding:

 

[sevgi]

yeah true but imagine they got the completely wrong understanding of what they're going through. THey think they're abandoned etc but for real they are saved from far worse.

Perhaps a bit of talking will remove all depression... i know someone recently that tried cuttin themselves up but just talking changed it all.

the tongue is a powerful tool...

i doubt that that person was truly depressd or suicidal.in fact--they werent at all.im sorry.

noone is ever abandonned...depresed ppl dnt see-cant see and usually dnt wana see the ppl around em..or the imaan inside them...

the mind makes u think that way.it is from shaytaan and his whisperings...

u need to help them see that they are not alone...and this must be done with utmost subtlety...if not, they wont get over it properly or u just mite push em away even more.they want to think u abandoned them.they want to think ur out to hurt em.u must change that perception first.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

but make sure she is outta my head.

then u can work on the internal gunk i have built up because of my mum...

mashaAllah thats the best thing to do.

would you advise some people to act robotic towards certain others?

like say someone keeps bugging you and you love'd this someone, but then they keep hurting you, should you just keep your duty to that someone whilst ignoring all feelings and having sabr?

for men i think this is possible, i dont know about sisters though? :?

is it healthy?

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

u need to help them see that they are not alone...and this must be done with utmost subtlety...if not, they wont get over it properly or u just mite push em away even more.they want to think u abandoned them.they want to think ur out to hurt em.u must change that perception first.

yeah i got a cousin whos on depression tablets, and she says she keeps hearing voices and stuff, shes attempted suicide over 10 times.


do you know anything about this?