Danish Paper Apology over Cartoons

[Froggy]

It is peaceful as long as you are peaceful. If you start attacking it then why shouldn't it be defended? Boycotts are a valid form of protest.
There was a guy who made a facebook poll about whether Obama should be assassinated, it was only words but the poll gets pulled and he gets taken in by secret service. It wasn't a threat to Obama and the guy could not have carried it out even if it was, but some things you just don't say.

It is completely valid, but in this case rather immoral, it won't make anyone apologize and a people who had nothing to do eith the cartoons or amy not even support them will loose their jobs. It's like international sanctions that in most cases hurt civilians, though I'd say those are more justified.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

to print and re-print of offensive cartoons is not madness but to boycott / make protest is madness ?

You're talking about protests that caused over a hundred deaths. What is worse: a hundred deaths or a tasteless cartoon?

Peace

 

[Amadeus85]

When a cartoon becomes a call to arms, I don't think you can pretend to be a "religion of peace".

When someone thinks that the right to humiliate others' religion is one of the fundaments of culture, they should not call themselves civilized people.

 

[Dagless]

It is completely valid, but in this case rather immoral, it won't make anyone apologize and a people who had nothing to do eith the cartoons or amy not even support them will loose their jobs. It's like international sanctions that in most cases hurt civilians, though I'd say those are more justified.

Thats the same as anything though isn't it? Innocents are always hurt. The point is that its the Danish governments job to make sure things like that don't happen. Their inaction indicates support.

 

[Skavau]

Thats the same as anything though isn't it? Innocents are always hurt. The point is that its the Danish governments job to make sure things like that don't happen. Their inaction indicates support.

Inaction to what? The Danish government did not and does not have the constitutional power to intervene on their own media in favour of and on behalf of people who's religious sensibilities are hurt.

 

[mog]

^^ Agreed!!! And Froggy, what kind of reaction did you expect?
I don't condone that kind of behaviour (burning and trashing places) but the cartoonist should have known that drawing such vile images would provoke any Muslim.
Also, they should know exactly what to do with this pathetic apology. 2 Years late aswell. Hah. What a freakin joke!

So what about this from http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/23821-profound-teachings-prophet.html

It must mean that protests and riots and death threats and actual killings are against the teachings!

Patience
The Prophet said: 'No one can give a better or more abundant gift than patience.' (Sahîh Bukhârî, Sahîh Muslim)

 

[جوري]

Whereas I agree that rioting isn't an effective a tool as boycotting. There is a time for everything.. time for peace and a time for war!

 

[Supreme]

It is peaceful as long as you are peaceful. If you start attacking it then why shouldn't it be defended? Boycotts are a valid form of protest.
There was a guy who made a facebook poll about whether Obama should be assassinated, it was only words but the poll gets pulled and he gets taken in by secret service. It wasn't a threat to Obama and the guy could not have carried it out even if it was, but some things you just don't say.

Just because something is taboo, it is not illegal to say it. However, someone must know the risks and the potential repurcussions when they say something, and the dangers it may bring, but not from the government in a country where saying anything is permitted.

 

[mog]

Whereas I agree that rioting isn't an effective a tool as boycotting. There is a time for everything.. time for peace and a time for war!

How would you like it, to have a complete boycott of everything that muslims produce?
That's if they sell anything to the non muslims!

 

[جوري]

How would you like it, to have a complete boycott of everything that muslims produce?
That's if they sell anything to the non muslims!

I don't mind at all.. in fact it would be nice if you'd take your troops, your vulgar ways, your naked women, and your mangod out of the entire Muslim world.
Muslims make up 1.86 billion of the world's population spanning the globe, I am sure we'll survive just fine!

 

[Froggy]

I don't mind at all.. in fact it would be nice if you'd take your troops, your vulgar ways, your naked women, and your mangod out of the entire Muslim world.
Muslims make up 1.86 billion of the world's population spanning the globe, I am sure we'll survive just fine!

Where did you get 1,86 billion?

 

[Dagless]

Inaction to what? The Danish government did not and does not have the constitutional power to intervene on their own media in favour of and on behalf of people who's religious sensibilities are hurt.

Inaction to the cartoons (are you actually reading anything?). The government has the power to 1) apologise 2) stop hate 3) stop inciting of hate. The cartoons were an insult. If they didn't know that before they were published then they knew it after. A simple apology and pulling them would have been all that was required. You're making it out like it was some kind of controversial report which the public needed to see.

 

[Froggy]

I don't mind at all.. in fact it would be nice if you'd take your troops, your vulgar ways, your naked women, and your mangod out of the entire Muslim world.
Muslims make up 1.86 billion of the world's population spanning the globe, I am sure we'll survive just fine!

It's funny you mention this. The Danes make up 5 million of the words population, they insult over a billion yet they survive just fine.

 

[جوري]

Where did you get 1,86 billion?

We also wanted to show that, by even taking data from General Sources, like CIA Fact Sheet, we can easily establish the fact that total Muslim Population in 2009 is 1.66 billion, which is far greater than currently estimated 1.2 or 1.3 billion. Under GENERAL SOURCE section, we have taken all the data from popular sources such as CIA Fact Sheet, HOLT, RINEHART & WINSTON, etc.

http://www.islamicpopulation.com/

some places like India and especially China don't wish to report the actual number of Muslims in their population, so we can round to 1.6~1.8 bil.
and it is the fastest growing religion, with at least 20,000 americans converting every year.

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All the best!
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[جوري]

It's funny you mention this. The Danes make up 5 million of the words population, they insult over a billion yet they survive just fine.

Good for them.. Then they'll survive just fine without the support of Muslim money and don't have to decry it out in the media!

all the best

 

[Froggy]

Good for them.. Then they'll survive just fine without the support of Muslim money and don't have to decry it out in the media!

all the best

They didn't for it for the money.

 

[Skavau]

Inaction to the cartoons (are you actually reading anything?). The government has the power to 1) apologise 2) stop hate 3) stop inciting of hate. The cartoons were an insult. If they didn't know that before they were published then they knew it after. A simple apology and pulling them would have been all that was required. You're making it out like it was some kind of controversial report which the public needed to see.

In a democratic nation, the government does not have the power (were you reading?) to just censor the press at will, pull the cartoons on behalf of a group of people due to threats and violence. It would be a complete disgrace and negate their own constitution and legitimacy to responsibly rule.

The government can pay lip service and make apologies on behalf of their free press but they cannot do anything else.

 

[جوري]

They didn't for it for the money.

I don't understand what 'they didn't for it for the money' means!

all the best

 

[Froggy]

I don't understand what 'they didn't for it for the money' means!

all the best

"Then they'll survive just fine without the support of Muslim money and don't have to decry it out in the media!"

I thought this meant they apologized to stop the boycot or something in those lines, so as to get more Muslim money.

 

[جوري]

I thought this meant they apologized to stop the boycot or something in those lines, so as to get more Muslim money.

I don't know the purpose at all for their half-baked apology and I think it is a little too late, so at this stage it is inconsequential!