Danish Paper Apology over Cartoons

[Holly]

I don't mind at all.. in fact it would be nice if you'd take your troops, your vulgar ways, your naked women, and your mangod out of the entire Muslim world.
Muslims make up 1.86 billion of the world's population spanning the globe, I am sure we'll survive just fine!

Just a thought, but you might want to actually write something coherent on occasion. We have troops in many locations in the islamist world by agreements with islamist nations. Islamists invited us into Iraq and Afghanistan so why whine and complain when we accept the Invitation?

Further, why not first remove your (wannabe jihadi) troops, your vulgar ways, your drug addicts and naked women from the West?

Thirdly, I see you need some education regarding just how well Islamism would survive without the West. That bastion of Islamism, the KSA, is already wringing it’s hands regarding the worlds oil consumption/reserves.

Saudis ask for aid if world cuts dependence on oil
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/busine...gy/6657947.html

BANGKOK — There are plenty of needy countries at the U.N. climate talks in Bangkok that make the case they need financial assistance to adapt to the impacts of global warming. Then there are the Saudis.

Saudi Arabia has led a quiet campaign during these and other negotiations — demanding behind closed doors that oil-producing nations get special financial assistance if a new climate pact calls for substantial reductions in the use of fossil fuels.

That campaign comes despite an International Energy Agency report released this week showing that OPEC revenues would still increase $23 trillion between 2008 and 2030 — a fourfold increase compared to the period from 1985 to 2007 — if countries agree to significantly slash emissions and thereby cut their use of oil. That is the limit most countries agree is needed to avoid the worst impacts of climate change.

The head of the Saudi delegation Mohammad S. Al Sabban dismissed the IEA figures as "biased" and said OPEC's own calculations showed that Saudi Arabia would lose $19 billion a year starting in 2012 under a new climate pact. The region would lose much more, he said.

"We are among the economically vulnerable countries," Al Sabban told The Associated Press on the sidelines of the talks ahead of negotiations in Copenhagen in December for a treaty to replace the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012.

The majority of islamist countries are dependent upon the West for their very survival. Absent oil exports, these bastions of Islamism are economically helpless as they have virtually no manufacturing or industrial base or the educated manpower to move their economies. In fact, it took Western technology for these islamist nations to develop their oil extraction infrastructure.

Try thinking before you ht the “submit reply” button.

 

[aamirsaab]

Alright drop your handbags people.

 

[Dagless]

In a democratic nation, the government does not have the power (were you reading?) to just censor the press at will, pull the cartoons on behalf of a group of people due to threats and violence. It would be a complete disgrace and negate their own constitution and legitimacy to responsibly rule.

The government can pay lip service and make apologies on behalf of their free press but they cannot do anything else.

You are wrong. Inciting hatred, be it racial or religious, is against the law. The government can enforce the law and pull the offending material. Free press does not mean they can print anything under the sun.

Alright drop your handbags people.

It's a satchel!

 

[Froggy]

You are wrong. Inciting hatred, be it racial or religious, is against the law. The government can enforce the law and pull the offending material. Free press does not mean they can print anything under the sun.



It's a satchel!

Charges have been filed against the newspaper but the court dismissed them.

 

[Dagless]

Charges have been filed against the newspaper but the court dismissed them.

And they were wrong to do so.

 

[جوري]

Just a thought, but you might want to actually write something coherent on occasion. We have troops in many locations in the islamist world by agreements with islamist nations. Islamists invited us into Iraq and Afghanistan so why whine and complain when we accept the Invitation?

Agreement of puppet govt. instated by the west, doesn't equate with agreement of the body of citizens!

Further, why not first remove your (wannabe jihadi) troops, your vulgar ways, your drug addicts and naked women from the West?

Why? the whole point it to usurp you!

Thirdly, I see you need some education regarding just how well Islamism would survive without the West. That bastion of Islamism, the KSA, is already wringing it’s hands regarding the worlds oil consumption/reserves.

Saudis ask for aid if world cuts dependence on oil
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/busine...gy/6657947.html

It would survive as it has for millenniums, the golden age of Islam happened prior to the oil surge!

The majority of islamist countries are dependent upon the West for their very survival. Absent oil exports, these bastions of Islamism are economically helpless as they have virtually no manufacturing or industrial base or the educated manpower to move their economies. In fact, it took Western technology for these islamist nations to develop their oil extraction infrastructure.

Is that why the west asks gulf countries for billions?

US asks oil-rich Muslim countries for $300 billion
http://eldib.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/us-asks-arab-states-for-300b-to-save-economy/

Try thinking before you ht the “submit reply” button.

lol.. why don't you go enroll in some basic vocational course to foster self-esteem?

 

[Holly]

You are wrong. Inciting hatred, be it racial or religious, is against the law. The government can enforce the law and pull the offending material. Free press does not mean they can print anything under the sun.

I've noticed that you are inconsistent in terms of defining publication of the MoToons. You first seek to demonize free speech which is contrary to your agenda by labeling it "offensive", in the hope of portraying others as committing an offense. You're hoping that a misguided and fundamentally flawed portrayal of the concept of freedom of speech will engender an environment facilitative of your desire to crush any criticism of your politico-religious ideology. What you want is an imprisoning of ideas. You want free speech to be muzzled so that at some point, all speech could be interpreted as "hate speech" when it is in regard to your religion.

For example: It becomes difficult for moderates to argue against internecine murders if they're threatened and ostracized for saying internecine murders are destructive or sinful. It becomes still harder if those who do speak out are punished and discredited within the context of their socio-political circles. And it becomes utterly impossible if the government is in a position to arrest you for such expression.

Islamic fear societies share all of the elements that create the conditions noted above: the most effective way to win an argument is to prevent the other side from debating. There are lessons to be learned from Islamic fear societies that we ignore at our own peril. Freedom of speech cannot protect you from being offend.

 

[Holly]

Agreement of puppet govt. instated by the west, doesn't equate with agreement of the body of citizens!

What “puppet” government “instated” by the West?

Perhaps you could discuss for us the islamist "governments" managed by mini-dictators.

Why? the whole point it to usurp you!

Is that why you have embraced your western lifestyle?

It would survive as it has for millenniums, the golden age of Islam happened prior to the oil surge!

“Golden Age”? What is so golden about failure?

Is that why the west asks gulf countries for billions?

US asks oil-rich Muslim countries for $300 billion
http://eldib.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/us-asks-arab-states-for-300b-to-save-economy/

You’re copying and pasting from someone’s personal blog? How pathetic.

lol.. why don't you go enroll in some basic vocational course to foster self-esteem?

Lol. That was pathetic.

 

[جوري]

I've noticed that you are inconsistent in terms of defining publication of the MoToons. You first seek to demonize free speech which is contrary to your agenda by labeling it "offensive", in the hope of portraying others as committing an offense. You're hoping that a misguided and fundamentally flawed portrayal of the concept of freedom of speech will engender an environment facilitative of your desire to crush any criticism of your politico-religious ideology. What you want is an imprisoning of ideas. You want free speech to be muzzled so that at some point, all speech could be interpreted as "hate speech" when it is in regard to your religion.

There are laws against libel and slander, and for that reason the Anti-Defamation League was created. Unfortunately as we notice with western hypocrisy, is that it was created to limit or completely obstruct any form of 'free speech' that is inflammatory used against the Jews only as such, you can be sentenced to jail for mere holocaust denial:
http://counterknowledge.com/2009/05/holocaust-denier-fredrick-toben-sentenced-to-jail/
but of course applauded for inciting hatred against Muslims!

For example: It becomes difficult for moderates to argue against internecine murders if they're threatened and ostracized for saying internecine murders are destructive or sinful. It becomes still harder if those who do speak out are punished and discredited within the context of their socio-political circles. And it becomes utterly impossible if the government is in a position to arrest you for such expression.

It is difficult for anyone to argue against anything that doesn't limit itself with what the west finds acceptable.
Again we see this with the bombing of villages in yemen to seek a man 'Anwar al'walaki' for allegedly having a conversation with the fort hood bomber!

Islamic fear societies share all of the elements that create the conditions noted above: the most effective way to win an argument is to prevent the other side from debating. There are lessons to be learned from Islamic fear societies that we ignore at our own peril. Freedom of speech cannot protect you from being offend.

You should really change the first word with 'the west', as it is already grammatically incorrectly used, and one is of course accustomed to the ignorance of the herd who do nothing but sit before their ten o'clock news which is really aimed at those with sub-mediocre intellect and imbuing them with their fill of crap!

all the best

 

[aamirsaab]

I said drop your freaking handbags!

 

[Dagless]

I've noticed that you are inconsistent in terms of defining publication of the MoToons. You first seek to demonize free speech which is contrary to your agenda by labeling it "offensive", in the hope of portraying others as committing an offense. You're hoping that a misguided and fundamentally flawed portrayal of the concept of freedom of speech will engender an environment facilitative of your desire to crush any criticism of your politico-religious ideology. What you want is an imprisoning of ideas. You want free speech to be muzzled so that at some point, all speech could be interpreted as "hate speech" when it is in regard to your religion.

For example: It becomes difficult for moderates to argue against internecine murders if they're threatened and ostracized for saying internecine murders are destructive or sinful. It becomes still harder if those who do speak out are punished and discredited within the context of their socio-political circles. And it becomes utterly impossible if the government is in a position to arrest you for such expression.

Islamic fear societies share all of the elements that create the conditions noted above: the most effective way to win an argument is to prevent the other side from debating. There are lessons to be learned from Islamic fear societies that we ignore at our own peril. Freedom of speech cannot protect you from being offend.

Freedom of speech is fine when done with respect to other peoples beliefs. Nobody complains about polite, well thought out arguments. The cartoons are different in that their objective was to insult/mock at the expense of a religious group. This is not acceptable when it comes to race and so should not be acceptable when it comes to religion.

I said drop your freaking handbags!

It worries me how good you are at this. Are you subsidising your income?

 

[جوري]

What “puppet” government “instated” by the West?

Perhaps you could discuss for us the islamist "governments" managed by mini-dictators.

How do mini dictators come to power?

anyone?

Is that why you have embraced your western lifestyle?

Who said I have embraced it?

“Golden Age”? What is so golden about failure?

I know it is difficult to think past last night's news, but as stated prior if you merely invest in a basic course to foster self-esteem, you can perhaps one day work your way up to community college and learn something of history and politics!

You’re copying and pasting from someone’s personal blog? How pathetic.

even if it were does it make it any less credible?

Lol. That was pathetic.

thank you for another adequate assessment of self!

all the best

 

[Holly]

There are laws against libel and slander, and for that reason the Anti-Defamation League was created. Unfortunately as we notice with western hypocrisy, is that it was created to limit or completely obstruct any form of 'free speech' that is inflammatory used against the Jews only as such, you can be sentenced to jail for mere holocaust denial:
http://counterknowledge.com/2009/05/holocaust-denier-fredrick-toben-sentenced-to-jail/
but of course applauded for inciting hatred against Muslims!

Nothing of the sort (libel and slander) occurred. You really should not post such nonsense. It really is pathetic that you feel a need to respond on behalf of others when your comments are so utterly pointless.

It is difficult for anyone to argue against anything that doesn't limit itself with what the west finds acceptable.
Again we see this with the bombing of villages in yemen to seek a man 'Anwar al'walaki' for allegedly having a conversation with the fort hood bomber!

A useless comment, totally unrelated to the subject. More pathetic whining.

You should really change the first word with 'the west', as it is already grammatically incorrectly used, and one is of course accustomed to the ignorance of the herd who do nothing but sit before their ten o'clock news which is really aimed at those with sub-mediocre intellect and imbuing them with their fill of crap!

all the best

Off topic and a waste of time. You seem to have a habit of sidestepping any real accounting of thread topics.

All the best… with at some point offering a coherent comment. I could author posts on your behalf on a per diem. Let me know as you need lots of help.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

the most effective way to win an argument is to prevent the other side from debating.

You can see that strategy in action here on the forum pretty much every day.

Peace

 

[جوري]

Greetings,


You can see that strategy in action here on the forum pretty much every day.

Peace

Then why have you remained here for five years?

 

[aamirsaab]

Greetings,


You can see that strategy in action here on the forum pretty much every day.

Peace

You are going to find this post hilarious. Or incredibly annoying.

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