David Cameron to force shut down of 'extremist' mosques

[Serinity]

Bold statement. Ignorant.

You didn't understand me did you? IF someone follows the Shariah Law completely or to his best ability, then how would he cause corruption?

Cause the Shariah spreads purity, etc. So the one who follows it, becomes purified too.
Doesn't make sense. But it'd make sense to say that "people use the Shariah to cause corruption" or something.

I guess there was a misunderstanding.

Anyways, may Allah SWT curse Assad and bring upon him the greatest punishment. Ameen.

 

[EgyptPrincess]

You didn't understand me did you? IF someone follows the Shariah Law completely or to his best ability, then how would he cause corruption?

Cause the Shariah spreads purity, etc. So the one who follows it, becomes purified too.

By you saying those who FOLLOW the Shariah, can cause corruption, you are implying that the SHARIAH can cause corruption, audhu billah!

Doesn't make sense. But it'd make sense to say that "people use the Shariah to cause corruption" or something.

Anyways, may Allah SWT curse Assad and bring upon him the greatest punishment. Ameen.

Dude what planet are you living on?

You can take the most devoted pious Muslim on the planet and he still might decide to break the law of Sharia at some point. Obviously those who follow the Sharia law are by definition law abiding citizens but they have within themselves the ability to break that law if they so decide.

Think about what you're saying. You're saying that if Sharia was implemented in the UK. Then automatically everyone who follows it "ie lives under it" can never commit a crime or cause corruption? If that was the case the Sharia would not have punishments in it... because by your logic it's impossible to commit a crime LOL.

What if the caliphate (real caliphate) one day decided to steal another countries oil. You think this action is impossible?! No... Sharia says it's impossible (ie don't steal), but the caliphate is just a man and that man is not perfect.

Please think before you speak. Perhaps you take a break from IB and gaming and learn do something to exercise your brain.

 

[Serinity]

Meh, you took my post out of proportions. Anyways.

I know The Shariah is perfect, but the people are not, and we have free will, and therefore can do whatever we want, but The Shariah Law regulates our lives, and has punishments for crimes, etc.

Anyways. Allah SWT knows best.

 

[EgyptPrincess]

Meh, you took my post out of proportions. Anyways.

I know The Shariah is perfect, but the people are not, and we have free will, and therefore can do whatever we want, but The Shariah Law regulates our lives, and has punishments for crimes, etc.

Anyways. Allah SWT knows best.

So does secular law that doesn't stop people from breaking it :statisfie

 

[Serinity]

So does secular law that doesn't stop people from breaking it :statisfie

But secular law is corrupt by nature, and has flaws. Shariah doesn't, it is perfect. Shariah is above any law, perfect.

I prefer Shariah Law any day. Doing otherwise, would be kufr. Afaik.

 

[EgyptPrincess]

But secular law is corrupt by nature, and has flaws. Shariah doesn't, it is perfect. Shariah is above any law, perfect.

I prefer Shariah Law any day. Doing otherwise, would be kufr. Afaik.

Yes I'm not arguing with you. Even though I do not know any Sharia law, if it comes from Allah swt then it surely is the best.

My problem is how can we guarantee the people in charge of implement it do it fairly and just and do not cause any corruption? We cannot guarantee it... We can only guarantee it if they were prophets, which they are not.

People make mistakes, people fall into traps. This can happen to any person, even the caliphate (the real one)

 

[Karl]

Well that's what you get when you build mosques in Zionist Jewish Britain.

 

[muslimah_B]

Well that's what you get when you build mosques in Zionist Jewish Britain.

There is a difference between "jews" and "zionists" we cant put them all in the same boat.

Well masjids are needed for the muslims who live here,
Taraweeh, jummah, 5 daily, and lectures, so they have to be built

 

[Serinity]

Yes I'm not arguing with you. Even though I do not know any Sharia law, if it comes from Allah swt then it surely is the best.

My problem is how can we guarantee the people in charge of implement it do it fairly and just and do not cause any corruption? We cannot guarantee it... We can only guarantee it if they were prophets, which they are not.

People make mistakes, people fall into traps. This can happen to any person, even the caliphate (the real one)

The Shariah is the Law of Allah SWT.
preferring a Law above Shariah is kufr.

one should try their best tho. we'll deal with stuff like that when it comes. And no, prophets aren't the only ones who we can guarantee. Many sahabahs were.

We can! By turning to the Quran and the Sunnah and unite under Tawheed! Let Allah SWT choose for us - not our own egos. Any reasonable Muslim man would find that fine.
Anyway,

 

[Misbah0411]

If someone follows the Shariah, he won't cause corruption.

But there are people who use the shariah to cause corruption, which is different from those who follow it.

Idk when there will ever be a Khalifah. Allahu alam.

You will find that those "would be" Muslims who don't want to live under the Law of Allah just want to follow their whims and desires for Shariah puts a stop to that.

44. "And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Kafirun " (5:44)

Ibn Taymiyah said: "There is no doubt that whoever does not believe in the obligation to rule according to the revelation of Allah is a kaffir. Whoever permits himself to rule people according to what he thinks is just without reference to the revelation of Allah is a kaffir. Indeed there is no nation which does not demand to be ruled with justice, but justice is contained in the Deen and not in the opinions of even the greatest leaders. It is true that many who have styled themselves Muslims ruled by their traditions which are not part of the Revelation, such was the case with the desert Arabs whose chiefs demand obedience and were of the opinion that one should rule by tradition rather than by the Book and the Sunnah. This is kufr. Although many submit to Islam, they continue to be ruled by the ancient practice which their rulers impose upon them. These rulers are told that it is not permitted for them to rule other than by the revelation of Allah and still they refuse, insisting upon a course which is at variance to the revelation of Allah. They are considered disbelievers."

 

[Serinity]

You will find that those "would be" Muslims who don't want to live under the Law of Allah just want to follow their whims and desires for Shariah puts a stop to that.

44. "And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Kafirun " (5:44)

Ibn Taymiyah said: "There is no doubt that whoever does not believe in the obligation to rule according to the revelation of Allah is a kaffir. Whoever permits himself to rule people according to what he thinks is just without reference to the revelation of Allah is a kaffir. Indeed there is no nation which does not demand to be ruled with justice, but justice is contained in the Deen and not in the opinions of even the greatest leaders. It is true that many who have styled themselves Muslims ruled by their traditions which are not part of the Revelation, such was the case with the desert Arabs whose chiefs demand obedience and were of the opinion that one should rule by tradition rather than by the Book and the Sunnah. This is kufr. Although many submit to Islam, they continue to be ruled by the ancient practice which their rulers impose upon them. These rulers are told that it is not permitted for them to rule other than by the revelation of Allah and still they refuse, insisting upon a course which is at variance to the revelation of Allah. They are considered disbelievers."

So for everything I say, I will have to back it up by the Quran? Ok.

 

[Karl]

There is a difference between "jews" and "zionists" we cant put them all in the same boat.

Well masjids are needed for the muslims who live here,
Taraweeh, jummah, 5 daily, and lectures, so they have to be built

Cameron is a Zionist Jew that is why he is anti Muslim.

 

[makkah tribune]

As per our honest opinion some muslim group of prople are really damging Islam in UK. These groups include people from Pakistan.