Death penalty????

[thirdwatch512]

It is a sign of strength indeed on your part to coax hypocrites!...
whatever she gets she has actually earned from her earlier posts and she knows exactly what they were!
If you have something of substance to impart on the subject matter do so, otherwise retract those claws, your habitual characteristics and mindset isn't something I can dignify with a response..

cheers

You see, here you go again.. Putting people down.
Jayda is a great person. Just because you disagree with her, does not give you the right to be such a jerk about it.

I don't see a 'wrong' in justice.. I see a recycled adage misplaced!


How does implementing justice not help? should we all live in a lawless state, because you think that crimes shouldn't be punished?


I agree, the innocents are killed and their killers walk free!


I have no problem with that... I question then why whenever this is put to rest, another one of you comes with an effusively insincere emotional outburst?


cheers

Here you go, complaining like always.

I have said twice now that the best we can do is agree to disagree. The reason why is because this argument is going nowhere. You are arguing that "justice" is being done by killing someone. which is sick in my opinion. Just down right immoral and disgusting.
Sorry, but I do not subscribe to the problematic "eye for an eye" belief. It does nothing but causes hate and takes away from love.

He is the 'sensitive' sort, I am accustomed to his fickle Heckle & Jeckle style.
I wouldn't make much of it..
Baraka Allah feek

I am sensitive to people who constantly put down others so they can try and make themselves feel better.

All you do in half the threads is complain and complain and complain. and you just bicker and make fun of others. You have no regard to courtesy that everyone deserves.

And Jayda does not want to offend you, or be mean, because she is a good person. So she just says "ok", just leaving you to believe what you want because she is strong enough to say "who cares what they think."

I wish I could be a good person like her and just let things pass. And I wish you could too. You are not the center of the world.. Remember that. Life does not revolve around you and your rudeness. You obviously have too much time on your hands.

 

[Omari]

You see, here you go again.. Putting people down.
Jayda is a great person. Just because you disagree with her, does not give you the right to be such a jerk about it.

and calling somone a JERK isn't putting down? thank you for sharing your logic (Y)

Here you go, complaining like always.

I have said twice now that the best we can do is agree to disagree. The reason why is because this argument is going nowhere. You are arguing that "justice" is being done by killing someone. which is sick in my opinion. Just down right immoral and disgusting.
Ah, and raping, ruining lives, torturing, stealing isn't "immoral and disgusting?"
Sorry, but I do not subscribe to the problematic "eye for an eye" belief. It does nothing but causes hate and takes away from love.
On the conturary, it not only rids the society of the anti-social element, but also sets an example to others, I think it's an idea worth practicing.

I am sensitive to people who constantly put down others so they can try and make themselves feel better.

...Okay... i have read every post, i don't see where she puts anyone down, unless providing facts to destroy the false is putting down.

All you do in half the threads is complain and complain and complain. and you just bicker and make fun of others. You have no regard to courtesy that everyone deserves.

Wow, look who is complaining now. And anyhow, if you are so sensitive that you have to back away by saying such things, why participate in such debates?

And Jayda does not want to offend you, or be mean, because she is a good person. So she just says "ok", just leaving you to believe what you want because she is strong enough to say "who cares what they think."

That may be strength in your mind, but in some it's weakness. A sign of arrogance aswel, perhaps.

I wish I could be a good person like her and just let things pass. And I wish you could too. You are not the center of the world.. Remember that. Life does not revolve around you and your rudeness. You obviously have too much time on your hands.

Brother, I understand that you are frustrated, but you don't have the right to say such things about a person when in fact it lacks evidence. I don't see any post where she says anything to directly insult anybody in particular. And if a person feels that way, then it is simply their misinterpretation, not her fault.

Peace.
Omari

 

[Malaikah]

I just love it when people put there head in a pile and ignore the obvious.

Any thing handled by men is flawed.

I'm not ignoring anything. The fact is that it is the best we have. If a mistake is made God will correct it in the next life. But the one doing the sentencing is not the one to blame as long as he followed the law like God commanded him to.

 

[wilberhum]

Do you actualy enjoy such things?
<Sarcasm on>Of course.<Sarcasm=off>
Amazement would be more accurate

What exactly do you mean by that wilberhum?
Any thing administered by man is flawed. Even your so called "God's Law's", will be administered by men and therefore the results will be flawed"

Omari

There is no system in the world that functions perfectly.

There never has been and there never will be.

If you execute people, at some point you will execute an innocent person.

 

[Omari]

There is no system in the world that functions perfectly.

There never has been and there never will be.

If you execute people, at some point you will execute an innocent person.

See, we're not discussing the execution of innocents, but rather of those who are convicted of executing innocents.

 

[Omari]

whats wrong with executing them?
[yes, yes, i've read them all]
The Islamic Law [shariah] isn't exactly PERFECT, but it was for the time, and it could still be "edited" to match modern civilization, and work.

 

[wilberhum]

See, we're not discussing the execution of innocents, but rather of those who are convicted of executing innocents.

Omari, you are neither that blind nor stupid. :uuh:

 

[Omari]

Omari, you are neither that blind nor stupid. :uuh:

Thank you?

 

[Omari]

I don't see where i made a mistake in my statement.

You said

If you execute people, at some point you will execute an innocent person.

how am I executing an innocent person if im only executing an anti-social element?

 

[wilberhum]

I don't see where i made a mistake in my statement.

You said
how am I executing an innocent person if im only executing an anti-social element?

Because you are not perfect and neither is your judgment.

 

[جوري]

You see, here you go again.. Putting people down.
Jayda is a great person. Just because you disagree with her, does not give you the right to be such a jerk about it.

-- I find that your public displays are more appealing to the vulgar taste and prefer that you either address the topic at hand or refrain from making a fool of yourself?

Here you go, complaining like always.

Actually I find that to be an adequate characteristic of your person. The forum isn't the place extend out, project or displace your feelings.. that is what your shrink is for! Further, If you didn't complain so often you might just find a creed a sexual preference, be less stupefied, befuddled and there would be some sort of consistency to what you write so we are not all aghast with your ever developing self.

I have said twice now that the best we can do is agree to disagree. The reason why is because this argument is going nowhere. You are arguing that "justice" is being done by killing someone. which is sick in my opinion. Just down right immoral and disgusting.
Sorry, but I do not subscribe to the problematic "eye for an eye" belief. It does nothing but causes hate and takes away from love.

If you agree to disagree why do you keep hammering your warped sense of morality?
I am not arguing that justice is carried by killing someone. I am arguing that criminals have to pay for their crimes. If you don't understand or can't read beyond the level of secondary school underachiever then it is a problem that you should seek to resolve privately... just stop wasting my time on every post to ptyalize banalities...
There are many things about you I find immoral and revolting, thus I'd refrain from writing with such bravado it might just bite you back, or is that your niche?...

I am sensitive to people who constantly put down others so they can try and make themselves feel better.

I can't think of one a single reason to want to descend down to word play with you or your friend. If you can't show respect to other people's sanctities on their host site of all places, then be ready to handle the consequence! I have zero tolerance..

All you do in half the threads is complain and complain and complain. and you just bicker and make fun of others. You have no regard to courtesy that everyone deserves.

courtesy is earned. You haven't earned it!.. Again, please refrain from using your bromide comments and/or observations on every paragraph.. I think we ought to impose a restriction on redundancy!

And Jayda does not want to offend you, or be mean, because she is a good person. So she just says "ok", just leaving you to believe what you want because she is strong enough to say "who cares what they think."

More platitudes, or are you running for the most bathetic novel?

I wish I could be a good person like her and just let things pass. And I wish you could too. You are not the center of the world.. Remember that. Life does not revolve around you and your rudeness. You obviously have too much time on your hands.

I enjoyed that middle school delivery---you have everyone's blessings to go be like just her then, I think she might just be up your alley and do revolve else where, show us how busy you are by scarmming!




cheers

 

[thirdwatch512]

Maybe you can profess your undying love to her by PM?
or should I let out the canned laughter now that you've pulled over the corner with your BB gun?

So now I have an undying love for someone simply because I am defending someone? Wow.

Actually I find that to be an adequate assessment of yourself. If you didn't complain so often you might just find a creed a sexual preference, be less stupefied and befuddled and there would be some sort of consistency to what you write so we are not all aghast with your ever developing self.

what on EARTH does my sexual preference have to do with ANYTHING? It has NOTHING to do with anything. It is totally irrelevant. How dare you come on here and post this bull that has nothing to do with my debating abilities.

And you say I complain a lot? What a hypocrite you really are. YOU complain way more then me. That is all you do when it comes to non Muslim issues.. Just non stop complaining and harassing.

And how am I "ever developing?" Because I changed my religion while I just so happened to be a member on here? Um, ok.. I guess converts should be picked at too!

As for my sexuality.. I have ALWAYS felt the way I do. You can disagree with me and complain all you want, but you are not me. You have no clue what I feel. And you have no right to tell me what I feel. I know what I like. And it has always been that way. So please, do not even try to tell me otherwise, because you are not me and do not know.

If you agree to disagree why do you keep hammering your inferior views and warped sense of morality?
I am not arguing that justice is carried by killing someone. I am arguing that criminals have to pay for their crimes. If you don't understand that, then there is nothing I can do about it... just stop wasting my time by popping on every post to ptyalize banalities... There are many things about you I find immoral and revolting, thus I'd refrain from writing with such bravado it might just bite you back, or is that your niche?...

Oh really? Because you seem to ALWAYS find a way to mention it in your writing(as we can see from above.) that is all you ever do when you speak to me is complain and complain. You ALWAYS find some reason to quote what I say, take it out of context, or something like that. If anything, you should stop wasting my time.. How about you stop replying to any of my posts?

And now my views are "morally inferior." LOL. Here you go again with the "I am right, you are wrong, I am best you are horrible" dilema.

On my first post, I put that we will all have different viewpoints and so I would not debate about it. You know why I said that? Because I KNEW that you would troll in and comment. It was because of YOU that I did that. And, it did not work.. You come in and respond anyways. Very typical of you.

I can't think of one a single reason to descend down to word play with you or your friend. If you can't show respect to other people's sanctities on their host site of all places, then be ready to handle the consequence! I have zero tolerance..

I DON'T SHOW RESPECT? Look who is talking!! I never said your view was inferior. I never said that your views was "psychobabble." I said that we just have to AGREE to DISAGREE and leave it at that.

Yet you, like always, come on and do not show respect.

and unless you pay for this site, then it is not your host site.

courtesy is earned. You haven't earned it!.. Also please refrain from using your bromide comments and/or observations on every paragraph.. I think we ought to impose a restriction on redundancy!

Right back at you.

More drivel and platitudes or are you running for the most bathetic novel?

For saying what is true? You are hilarious...

lol.. I enjoyed that middle school delivery---you have everyone's blessings to go be like her then, I think she might just be up your alley and do revolve else where, show us how busy you are by scarmming!

So because I defend people I must "love them" and all that? Ugh, you are so immature. When are you going to grow up?

I would bet that you are some young teenager posting their nonsense, posting as someone older. I honestly doubt you are an adult.

cheers

Ok

 

[thirdwatch512]

Ah, I see that you changed your post....

Well, here is my response to the "modification" you added.

-- I find that your public displays are more appealing to the vulgar taste and prefer that you either address the topic at hand or refrain from making a fool of yourself?

Then let us PM and we can discuss it.

 

[جوري]

So now I have an undying love for someone simply because I am defending someone? Wow.

I couldn't care less what you are doing here, it has nothing to do with the topic, and it is repelling-- do it in private!

what on EARTH does my sexual preference have to do with ANYTHING? It has NOTHING to do with anything. It is totally irrelevant. How dare you come on here and post this bull that has nothing to do with my debating abilities.

Show me your debate!

And you say I complain a lot? What a hypocrite you really are. YOU complain way more then me. That is all you do when it comes to non Muslim issues.. Just non stop complaining and harassing.

I'd hand you a tissue if you weren't such a dynamo of a hyperbole!

And how am I "ever developing?" Because I changed my religion while I just so happened to be a member on here? Um, ok.. I guess converts should be picked at too!

No, you are often discrepant on all your views.. It is my sincere feeling that you are suffering from severe disintegration of personality with erratic writing, childish mannerisms and very bizarre behavior!

As for my sexuality.. I have ALWAYS felt the way I do. You can disagree with me and complain all you want, but you are not me. You have no clue what I feel. And you have no right to tell me what I feel. I know what I like. And it has always been that way. So please, do not even try to tell me otherwise, because you are not me and do not know.

There there!

Oh really? Because you seem to ALWAYS find a way to mention it in your writing(as we can see from above.) that is all you ever do when you speak to me is complain and complain. You ALWAYS find some reason to quote what I say, take it out of context, or something like that. If anything, you should stop wasting my time.. How about you stop replying to any of my posts?

stop quoting me and you won't receive replies back :sunny:

And now my views are "morally inferior." LOL. Here you go again with the "I am right, you are wrong, I am best you are horrible" dilema.

Morality as suits society has nothing to do with either of us. You are irrational, irrational people shouldn't be influencing the laws of society!

On my first post, I put that we will all have different viewpoints and so I would not debate about it. You know why I said that? Because I KNEW that you would troll in and comment. It was because of YOU that I did that. And, it did not work.. You come in and respond anyways. Very typical of you.

Your comments/observations are leading in attempts to guide the respondent's answer.. try a different approach you might have a different response!

I DON'T SHOW RESPECT? Look who is talking!! I never said your view was inferior. I never said that your views was "psychobabble." I said that we just have to AGREE to DISAGREE and leave it at that.

please tell me, is this a partial or selective loss of memory? oh thank God for your presence here.. you are ever the diplomat!

Yet you, like always, come on and do not show respect.

I'd also refrain from such terms as 'always or never' if you wished to loan your opinions more credence

and unless you pay for this site, then it is not your host site.

I am glad you brought that up.. some of us will pay a maintenance monthly fee for this site, we indeed hope your ilk will be gone by then!

For saying what is true? You are hilarious...

happy puppet syndrome on top of schizophrenia? this is indeed serious!

So because I defend people I must "love them" and all that? Ugh, you are so immature. When are you going to grow up?

we'll have to wait for you to take the dive!

I would bet that you are some young teenager posting their nonsense, posting as someone older. I honestly doubt you are an adult.

Ok

ah.. what a zany sense of humor..


cheers

 

[Malaikah]

Hey people, as entertaining as this might be... I can't help but notice it is kinda off topic.

 

[Mikayeel]

Here you go, complaining like always.

I have said twice now that the best we can do is agree to disagree. The reason why is because this argument is going nowhere. You are arguing that "justice" is being done by killing someone. which is sick in my opinion. Just down right immoral and disgusting.
Sorry, but I do not subscribe to the problematic "eye for an eye" belief. It does nothing but causes hate and takes away from love.

So you think there is any love as it is now? I dont see any... thats why everyone is complaining.. Thats why people debate so much on bringing back the death penalty.. I am amazed by your level of ignorance.. Because this none death penalty law is clearly not working as it is showing now, why not giving it a try and bring the law back for the 'serious crimes'? Maybe then you will find love..

 

[wilberhum]

So you think there is any love as it is now? I dont see any... thats why everyone is complaining.. Thats why people debate so much on bringing back the death penalty.. I am amazed by your level of ignorance.. Because this none death penalty law is clearly not working as it is showing now, why not giving it a try and bring the law back for the 'serious crimes'? Maybe then you will find love..

One of the reasons the death penalty was abolished was because it doesn't work. Removing the death penalty didn't work either.

An intelligent person would come to the obvious conclusion, different levels of punishment is not much of a deterrent.

 

[InToTheRain]

An intelligent person would come to the obvious conclusion, different levels of punishment is not much of a deterrent.

On the contrary, only an idiot would give the same punishment for every crime. The punishment has to fit the crime. You don't give the rapist and a the dude that stole a crisp from the Kwiki mart the same punishment, the level of punishment differs according to the crime.

 

[wilberhum]

On the contrary, only an idiot would give the same punishment for every crime. The punishment has to fit the crime. You don't give the rapist and a the dude that stole a crisp from the Kwiki mart the same punishment, the level of punishment differs according to the crime.

On the contrary? ffended:

No one has suggested the stupidly you are touting. :uuh:

 

[InToTheRain]

On the contrary? ffended:

No one has suggested the stupidly you are touting. :uuh:

"diffrent levels of punishment is not much of a detterent" --- this is biggest BS I have heard is what I am saying. Cappish? oh:

O, and "And intelligent person" wouldn't come to that conclusion, only an idiot would is what I am saying oh:

I hope I have made it clear now billy boy