Death penalty????

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Omari said:
Methods of punishment:

If rape:

1) Make the person marry the victim,
2) Destroy his...thingy.
3) Kill him,
4) Kill him slowly.
5) Skin him and then kill him.
6) Life time imprisonment,[Literaly]
7) MAKE him a muslim, if he disagrees choose from any method from 2-5
8) Put him in a bag....[lol]
9) Blind him with pepperspray
10) All of the above.
(11) make casserole
If Murder:

1) Make him beg for forgivness from the relative of the victim,
2) If the relative does not forgive, kill him
3) If the relative wants to kill him, let them
4) Kill him yourself
5) Take him to jail for 10 days and then kill him, [to show everyone and provide an example]
6) All of the above
7) suggest meatloaf or pot roast

If Steal:

If the stolen good was because of hunger and survival
1) Shelter them
2) Give them clothes
3) Feed them

If the stolen good was for the sake of stealing

1) Cut off one of his hand
2) all of the above
3) cut off anything that sticks out


well now that you mention it...
LOL jks
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sorry, couldn't control myself.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
A question for muslims:
What are the crimes you think deserve the capital punishment?
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all crimes in my opinion.. and no stealin candy from a baby doesnt count as a crime...well for young ppl it doesnt for wilberhum...thats his choice.. and murdering stealin bank running ppl over in ur tiiight car (only fun in games on xbox360 not in real life) messin up the city and costin them like $144,000 (need for speed most wanted) all that sick stuff

of course y'all take this stuff regular daily routines.. oh a girl got kidnapped today on the news (SAW it on the news not got kidnapped on the news) and they found her body also today disenigrated and sickening by a railroad track with her stepsister... aww poor girl anyway back to my perrrfect life..


oh and another crime is like the virginia tech thing that happened..sometime..i forget..
 
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Omari said:

Well, if it doesn't go against humanity as a whole, why not?

And I can provide many reasons for such an execution that may and will benefit mankind...

It all depends on where the opinion of people like you stand, and most of the time, such opinions won't be changed.
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A lot of things may benefit mankind, which doesn't make them ethical and acceptable.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I like it. My views on stealing are roughly the same.
I hold similar views for some other crimes as well.
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Brother, Islam is a religion of peace, and it is the kindest among the others.

Do you know how Muslims are supposed to treat their slaves/servants?
[Yes, off topic, but whats the harm?]

We MUST give them what we wear
we MUST feed them what we eat
we MUST shelter them where we sleep

OUR NEIGHBORS:
Did you know that if your son had a toy that your neighbour's kid can't afford your kid isnt allowed to play with it in their presence?

If your neighbour is hungry and has no food, your food becomes haram for you

THERE ARE SOOO MANY THINGS...

And about crimes, we are always just with the criminals, and justice should be made according to the benefit of everyone.

Peace,
Omari
 
okey now that this thread is getting sicker than it already was.. and im in the typing mood i better go and continue my report i havent started thats due today...

oh shi-- sorry
 
Whatsthepoint said:
What about adultery, homosexuality etc?
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Would you like to give me the list on your mind? And I will use my best judgment.

Adultry...? I think they should be gotten rid of from the society. [For many reasons] How to get rid of them is totally up to the government, but just take them away!

Homosexuality...? This is a question that I am not "knowledgable" enough to answer. There are many debates, and researches that are being conducted to determine wether Homosexuality is a choice or inevitability. A punishment can't be given to somone who has no choice. So, Like i said, i am not fit to answer that question

Give me the list though

Omari
 
Omari said:


Would you like to give me the list on your mind? And I will use my best judgment.

Adultry...? I think they should be gotten rid of from the society. [For many reasons] How to get rid of them is totally up to the government, but just take them away!

Homosexuality...? This is a question that I am not "knowledgable" enough to answer. There are many debates, and researches that are being conducted to determine wether Homosexuality is a choice or inevitability. A punishment can't be given to somone who has no choice. So, Like i said, i am not fit to answer that question

Give me the list though

Omari
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Here's the list...
Blasphemy
Apostacy
Homosexuality
Polytheism
and the rest of the "moral crimes" that do not hurt any one (at least not directly)

Do you think a pedophile holds an equal responsibility for killing a child than a parent who killed it for legal/financial purposes?
Do you think a rapist carefully thinks over and plans his actions? Or is it a more or less spontanous decision?
 
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Omari said:
Brother, Islam is a religion of peace, and it is the kindest among the others.

Do you know how Muslims are supposed to treat their slaves/servants?
[Yes, off topic, but whats the harm?]

We MUST give them what we wear
we MUST feed them what we eat
we MUST shelter them where we sleep

OUR NEIGHBORS:
Did you know that if your son had a toy that your neighbour's kid can't afford your kid isnt allowed to play with it in their presence?

If your neighbour is hungry and has no food, your food becomes haram for you

THERE ARE SOOO MANY THINGS...

And about crimes, we are always just with the criminals, and justice should be made according to the benefit of everyone.

Peace,
Omari
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This isn't going to convince me to convert to Islam. It will however improve my generally good opinion about Muhammad.

Thumbs up for Muhammad!
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Here's the list...
Blasphemy That's a crime? no that dosn't deserve death penalty.
Apostacy is a decision, not a crime. No does'nt deserve death, unless he is leaving islam to commit attrocities.Homosexuality Like i said before, can't answer
Polytheism Nah, they can worship as many as they want, as long as they aren't bringing muslim people the wrong news. It's their life in the end.
and the rest of the "moral crimes" that do not hurt any one (at least not directly) These aren't even crimes, lol.

Do you think a pedophile holds an equal responsibility for killing a child than a parent who killed it for legal/financial purposes?
Yes, Murdering an innocent is Haram for any purpose, ANY purpose at all.
Do you think a rapist carefully thinks over and plans his actions? Or is it a more spontanous decision?
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Un/fortunatly, I'm not a rapist, so i can't answer that question. In MY opinion though i think it's a spontanous decision, but a decision nontheless. Therefore he deserves punishment, how sever? that depends on the victim's state.

Hope it helps
Peace
 
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Whatsthepoint said:
This isn't going to convince me to convert to Islam. It will however improve my generally good opinion about Muhammad.

Thumbs up for Muhammad!
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Im glad it did something, and it wasn't intended to make anyone convert, just as long as you get some things cleared up about the religion :)

Ask me for more things, anytime.
Omari
 
Omari said:
Unfortunatly, I'm not a rapist, so i can't answer that question. In MY opinion though i think it's a spontanous decision, but a decision nontheless. Therefore he deserves punishment, how sever? that depends on the victim's state.

Hope it helps
Peace
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EDIT: fortunatly...lol...






i didnt even know what half that stuff he said was... good thing i got dictionary.com in my favorites.. and yes nothing he said was a 'crime' really except innocent killins... what does anyone evn benifit from killin innocent ppl?? if it was someone who did something verryy bad to u than that would be an excuse (sorta) not even a good enuf excuse to go to heaven... but killin innocent ppl ??? u kill them... then u die...then allah punishes u..then u go to hell..then what?
 
truemuslim said:
EDIT: fortunatly...lol...
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HOLY! i said UNFORTUNATLY? omg. AZTAGHFURRULLAH
and jazakallah for telling me

whoa...

EDIT: Wait a sec. it makes sence, i cant answer his question because im NOT a rapist.
...Wow,
lol
 
truemuslim said:
EDIT: fortunatly...lol...
killin innocent ppl ??? u kill them... then u die...then allah punishes u..then u go to hell..then what?
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Then he burns OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER X [infinite]

have fun
 
Omari said:
HOLY! i said UNFORTUNATLY? omg. AZTAGHFURRULLAH
and jazakallah for telling me

whoa...

EDIT: Wait a sec. it makes sence, i cant answer his question because im NOT a rapist.
...Wow,
lol
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hmm.. i guess both work..sorta.. Fortunatly im not a rapist so i unfortunatly cant answer ur question... thats sounds too wierd lol
 
Omari said:
Unfortunatly, I'm not a rapist, so i can't answer that question. In MY opinion though i think it's a spontanous decision, but a decision nontheless. Therefore he deserves punishment, how sever? that depends on the victim's state.

Hope it helps
Peace
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I thought Islam perscribed the death penalty for apostates, blasphemers, publically practicing homosexuals, and there are some verses that are very unkind towards polytheists...

My opinion is that most people who commit crimes such as murder or rape are not capable of making rational judgements and decisions at the time of the action. Hence I don't think they should be held responsible for their mistakes. Yeah, thy should e locked up, tehy've proven to be unstable dangerosus for teh society, but they should not be killed.

As I said before, I do support the death penalty in cases of people who do wrong consciously and gain financial or other benefits, eg serial killers, politicans who get rid of their opponents...
 

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