Death penalty????

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I think it has some good sides
if there is no such a strong penalty, crimes will not be reduced. Also, there will be no justice to the criminals and innocent, innocents will not gain their rights.
so, I think it will insure increasing in the society because without it every one will take crimes easily.
 
i'm still against it.
it would be impossible to be sure there would be no mistakes.
we do not have the same justice for rich and poor.
 
snakelegs said:
i'm still against it.
it would be impossible to be sure there would be no mistakes.
we do not have the same justice for rich and poor.
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no i said if we can be sure, and all evidence is 100% and the guy admit he killed... would you then agree with it or not?
 
Hamada said:
So guys lets come to a conclusion, if the dead penalty was justice! and mankind made no mistake in it(killing the wrong person) or torturing him in any kind of way, just a straight plain death.. WOuld people then agree that the Death penalty should be introduced back??
To those who kill others for no reason...(and have no mental sickness themself???)
Would it then be fair to have it back?

salam
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only if God allowed it. my biggest objection is that life and death belong to Him... we should be certain that He allows us to do this, and then we should be certain that we will not fail Him by taking innocent life.
 
Hamada said:
no i said if we can be sure, and all evidence is 100% and the guy admit he killed... would you then agree with it or not?
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no, i don't think i would. if killing is wrong, the state shouldn't do it either.
in some cases, i might have to do some deep thinking, though.
 
Jayda said:
Only if God allowed it. my biggest objection is that life and death belong to Him... we should be certain that He allows us to do this, and then we should be certain that we will not fail Him by taking innocent life.
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Well God allows good agaisnt evil, no? It's the same concept. War/Defence against the tyrants and such.
 
i think it will.. of course no one listens to rules... like me thread about jesus not being god.... lets just hope ppl actually dont do serious crimes...
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
No one is attacking you.. and No one should take a pleasure in putting someone to death, it is as necessary as you underoing radiation or chemo for a tumor that is killing you...the rest of your comment is a logical fallay.
Or should we follow that same logic and say, well this anaplastic change is really endogenous, meant to be there and if it is killing me, I shouldn't be a hypocrite by killing it back..

think about what you are saying and suggesting..

peace!
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I am suggesting that we are all humans, and should thus be treated like it. Two wrongs do not make a right.

What murderers and rapists do as very wrong and sick. But it is wrong and sick for us to kill them just because they were bad to others. It does nothing to help.

Also, many innocent people are killed who had nothing to do with the situation.

But as I said from the get go, people will never agree. I am arguing my side right now, and I am sure that you will come back with your argument. But your argument will never satisfy me, nor will mine satisfy yours. The best we can do is agree to disagree!
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
I guess because I can't sort through all your psychobabble!
You are simply ineffectual at making a solid point!


cheers
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Why do you put down others in every single discussion? You always seem to feel that you are right and everyone else is wrong, and they must just be terrible people.

Please, stop insulting others. It is a sign of weakness.

Jayda made her point. It was YOU who did not even respond to it, but instead just put her down and say terrible things about her.

You need to grow up.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
Why do you put down others in every single discussion? You always seem to feel that you are right and everyone else is wrong, and they must just be terrible people.

Please, stop insulting others. It is a sign of weakness.

Jayda made her point. It was YOU who did not even respond to it, but instead just put her down and say terrible things about her.

You need to grow up.
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It is a sign of strength indeed on your part to coax hypocrites!...
whatever she gets she has actually earned from her earlier posts and she knows exactly what they were!
If you have something of substance to impart on the subject matter do so, otherwise retract those claws, your habitual characteristics and mindset isn't something I can dignify with a response..

cheers
 
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thirdwatch512 said:
am suggesting that we are all humans, and should thus be treated like it. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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I don't see a 'wrong' in justice.. I see a recycled adage misplaced!

What murderers and rapists do as very wrong and sick. But it is wrong and sick for us to kill them just because they were bad to others. It does nothing to help.
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How does implementing justice not help? should we all live in a lawless state, because you think that crimes shouldn't be punished?

Also, many innocent people are killed who had nothing to do with the situation.
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I agree, the innocents are killed and their killers walk free!
But as I said from the get go, people will never agree. I am arguing my side right now, and I am sure that you will come back with your argument. But your argument will never satisfy me, nor will mine satisfy yours. The best we can do is agree to disagree!
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I have no problem with that... I question then why whenever this is put to rest, another one of you comes with an effusively insincere emotional outburst?


cheers
 
thirdwatch512 said:
Why do you put down others in every single discussion? You always seem to feel that you are right and everyone else is wrong, and they must just be terrible people.

Please, stop insulting others. It is a sign of weakness.

Jayda made her point. It was YOU who did not even respond to it, but instead just put her down and say terrible things about her.

You need to grow up.
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:ooh: two wrongs don't make a right remember. Besides Sister Ambrosia was attacking the opinion not the persons contribution to the whole Forum so you should take a chill pill :ooh: ... tut tut

Keep em coming sister Ambrosia :thumbs_up
 
Z.AL-Rashid said:
:ooh: two wrongs don't make a right remember. Besides Sister Ambrosia was attacking the opinion not the persons contribution to the whole Forum so you should take a chill pill :ooh: ... tut tut

Keep em coming sister Ambrosia :thumbs_up
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He is the 'sensitive' sort, I am accustomed to his fickle Heckle & Jeckle style.
I wouldn't make much of it..
Baraka Allah feek

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:sl:

About innocent people being put to death - well, God is the one who ordered that the killer should be put to death and He is also the one who gave us method to follow when sentencing people to death, so as long as we follow the method that God outlined for us then I don't see why there should be an issue.
 
God is the best judge, and it is he who will deal with the convict in the hereafter...

its our job to get the convict there :P
 
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Malaikah said:
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About innocent people being put to death - well, God is the one who ordered that the killer should be put to death and He is also the one who gave us method to follow when sentencing people to death, so as long as we follow the method that God outlined for us then I don't see why there should be an issue.
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I just love it when people put there head in a pile and ignore the obvious.

Any thing handled by men is flawed.
 

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