Death penalty????

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Omari said:
Aw common. Not everyone gets married in a 5-star hotel!

and if you mean to say that they can't afford the food and clothing...then they should consider their "pleasure-less" life and find ways to make it full of pleasure...I don't want to talk about ways to please yourself with your life partner, I'm sure your not that dull [if at all].

Choosing your life-partner is a big step. So take it carefully. There is, in my opinion, a solution to all the problems that may lead the rapist to take the sick step.

Peace
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I said most rapists are uneducated, low-payed, perhaps even unemployed. I don't think many of them can make ends meet on their own, let alone with 3 wives.
If married rapists knew the way how to pleasure themselves within marriage they would rape, would they?
I agree, but the world is not perfect...
 
Whatsthepoint said:
If married rapists knew the way how to pleasure themselves within marriage they would rape, would they?
Care to edit?.I found it confusing at first. Thanks :)
I agree, but the world is not perfect...
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Maybe not, but do you disagree that the world has the potential to be very close to it?
How many people who rape will tell a BS story about how they are, "Uneducated, Unemployed, Full of stress, NO PLEASURE" ANYTHING to save them from the possible punishment. I think Half of it is Bull. You just can't ruin the life of another person and get away with it with a room, 3 square meals, a tv, and other things.
You never know, maybe some "poor" people are raping just to get that. Who knows??

The point still stands as it did when the thread started:
If the survival of a crop and by extension the survival of a family is at risk.
Eradicate the pest.

Peace
Omari
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I agree, a society cannot afford having criminals and dangerous people freely walking down the street. But I don't think such elements should be executed, let alone publically. I have stated my positions and reasons for them throughout this thread, there's no point in repeating them.
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Your reasonings are a bit odd to me since they mostly fall on conjectural, but I agree, no point in repeating...

peace
 
Omari said:
Maybe not, but do you disagree that the world has the potential to be very close to it?
How many people who rape will tell a BS story about how they are, "Uneducated, Unemployed, Full of stress, NO PLEASURE" ANYTHING to save them from the possible punishment. I think Half of it is Bull. You just can't ruin the life of another person and get away with it with a room, 3 square meals, a tv, and other things.
You never know, maybe some "poor" people are raping just to get that. Who knows??

The point still stands as it did when the thread started:
If the survival of a crop and by extension the survival of a family is at risk.
Eradicate the pest.

Peace
Omari
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A typo.
...they wouldn't rape, would they...

Humans are not crops, that's all I have to say...
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
Your reasonings are a bit odd to me since they mostly fall on conjectural, but I agree, no point in repeating...

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Well, there are so many crime statistics out there that most crime reasonings fall on conjectural...
Anyway, throughout this topic I have stated my opinions on the subejct, I have never claimed they're indisputable, perfect...
 
IS a pest's life more valuable then the survival of a family?

I am comparing the pest to the rapist/ killer.
The family to society.

In order to maintain a safe society. the criminals must be brought to justice. And eradicating the society from the PEST is to eliminate all thoughts the criminal may have about "getting away with it".
 
Omari said:
IS a pest's life more valuable then the survival of a family?

I am comparing the pest to the rapist/ killer.
The family to society.
I kinda figured that out by myself...

In order to maintain a safe society. the criminals must be brought to justice. And eradicating the society from the PEST is to eliminate all thoughts the criminal may have about "getting away with it".
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You can isolate pest, or genetically modify them not to harm crops.
The death penalty is not much of a crime deterrant, perhaps in KSA and Bahrain but I think there are other reasons to their low crime rates...
And I wouldn't support it even if it did effectievly detter crime.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
And I wouldn't support it even if it did effectievly detter crime.
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I don't think creating a Hub were rapists and murdereres get to meet up, get fed and live using the hard earned money of every tax payer including the Victims is a solution.

The only way to get Justice as it seems is to have some of these guys around, Hail to all Vigilantes!

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I would also like to note, that people who say that alot of people have been killed (innocent people) due to the death penalty, (mostly happened in the USA)

If people gave up due to failure we wouldn't have flight today.

With todays technology such mistakes can be avoided. With eye-witnesses, DNA, and confessions the death penalty can be carried out with 100% accuracy.

That's a point to those who keep saying, no we keep killing innocent people.
 
Hamada said:
I would also like to note, that people who say that alot of people have been killed (innocent people) due to the death penalty, (mostly happened in the USA)

If people gave up due to failure we wouldn't have flight today.

With todays technology such mistakes can be avoided. With eye-witnesses, DNA, and confessions the death penalty can be carried out with 100% accuracy.

That's a point to those who keep saying, no we keep killing innocent people.
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When humans are involved there is never 100% accuracy.
 
wilberhum said:
When humans are involved there is never 100% accuracy.
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Maybe back in the 60's

So you are saying that if 4 witnesses sweared by that they have witnessed the crime.. Above that all today's technology proves positive! (and for the sake of argument lets say the offender admitted his crime) would then in that case the death penalty serve him right?
 
Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime.

Does this here not say enough??
 
Hamada said:
Maybe back in the 60's

So you are saying that if 4 witnesses sweared by that they have witnessed the crime.. Above that all today's technology proves positive! (and for the sake of argument lets say the offender admitted his crime) would then in that case the death penalty serve him right?
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It seems that you have little knowledge of evidence and even less about humanity.
 
Hamada said:
So all that in your eyes is not enough evidence?

Can you explain my own lack of humanity to my self please??
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Not "lack of humanity". I in no way meant that. I meant and said knowledge about humanity. A lot of difference.

Witness are often wrong.
The technology is ran by humans and humans make mistakes.

In fact it may surprise you but some people lie.
 

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