Devout Muslim dies after savage beating by 'race-hate' gang

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If you spent the time to read what I wrote; the point I was making is why there isn't the same sort of protests against terrorism to the same level as there was when the Muhammad cartoons were published?

You also seem to ignore several post following that one post - cherry picking for the sake of selective outrage.

why isnt there so much western outrage when innocent iraqis or afghanis are killed by western troops. or when israel kills thousands of civillians, why isnt there so much outrage and sympathy and moments of silence similar to when a 7-7 happens etc?

ppl like you just talk too much crap.
 
why isnt there so much western outrage when innocent iraqis or afghanis are killed by western troops. or when israel kills thousands of civillians, why isnt there so much outrage and sympathy and moments of silence similar to when a 7-7 happens etc?

ppl like you just talk too much crap.

Yeah. Israel continues to breaks international law and Western politicians don't seem to speak against them. In fact they support them and continue to ignore Human Rights reports on the events taking place in Gaza and the West Bank.

Same with the My Lai Massacre. Some westerners shockingly still manage to find excuse for what those American soldiers did to those civilians.
 
It would have been the natural conclusion had the suspects been named Mohamed or AbduAllah.. I merely point out the double standards?
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There have been some recent examples in the british press that I think relate to this:

1) A bosnian girl working in a bar (serving alcohol) took her employer to court for discrimination as she refused to wear the revealing dress. She claimed it was degrading.

In the press (london papers) all the headlines started with MUSLIM GIRL *****

It was enough that she was bosnian and had a muslim sounding name to start the headline MUSLIM. To your average non muslim it would seem the muslims are at it again, causing trouble.

I mean she was working in a bar selling alcohol! if she didnt want to wear the dress because she was a muslim she wouldnt be working in the bar in the first place.
 
Question: What does all this have to do with the article in the first post?

Answer: Nothing.

Solution: Return to the topic.

Aside: I could really go for a strawberry milkshake right now.
 
Question: What does all this have to do with the article in the first post?

Answer: Nothing.

Solution: Return to the topic.

Aside: I could really go for a strawberry milkshake right now.
I think emotions run high when people hear horrendous stories such as this - and people are likely to respond emotionally and passionately, and say things they otherwise might not.

Perhaps, rather than allowing further accusations and arguments, the thread should be closed.

May God bless Ekram Haque, may he give peace to his family, and wisdom and understanding to all who are affected by this.
 
why isnt there so much western outrage when innocent iraqis or afghanis are killed by western troops. or when israel kills thousands of civillians, why isnt there so much outrage and sympathy and moments of silence similar to when a 7-7 happens etc?

ppl like you just talk too much crap.

There is no outrage! no outrage! do you even watch television, read a news paper or look at websites. The fact that the New Zealand government for the last 9 years was revelling in the fact that it was against the war in Iraq, the maintaining of the nuclear free policy etc.

Btw, nice how you ignore the what 'western' troops give - then again, hating westerners is a whole lot easier than actually educating yourself.
 
Yeah. Israel continues to breaks international law and Western politicians don't seem to speak against them. In fact they support them and continue to ignore Human Rights reports on the events taking place in Gaza and the West Bank.

Same with the My Lai Massacre. Some westerners shockingly still manage to find excuse for what those American soldiers did to those civilians.

Not a single thing said about the many gays murdered by the state or by their fellow countrymen in Muslim majority countries.

Then again, using your benchmark - only heterosexual muslim men have any value in this world.
 
There is no outrage! no outrage! do you even watch television, read a news paper or look at websites. The fact that the New Zealand government for the last 9 years was revelling in the fact that it was against the war in Iraq, the maintaining of the nuclear free policy etc.
did you even read his post? he said: "so much" out rage not "no" out rage.

Btw, nice how you ignore the what 'western' troops give - then again, hating westerners is a whole lot easier than actually educating yourself.
yes you're right, the stealing of wealth, and other such atrocities committed by western soldiers have been ignored. but then, pointing the finger and shifting the blame is a whole lot easier then educating yourself.


Not a single thing said about the many gays murdered by the state or by their fellow countrymen in Muslim majority countries.
sodomy is a sin, so its going to get dealt with accordingly. like wise, murder is a "sin" according to the law in most (if not all) civil societies, so that likewise will get its penalty. different sets of laws in different societies are implemented. so, your arguments holds up to no scrutiny.
 
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To return to the original subject, this crime is a terrible tragedy and it is painful to read this story. I feel sad for the family to lose Mr Hague in such a brutal, hateful and heartless way.

I hope that the animals who committed this hate driven crime suffer the full weight of the law for the evil they have done to an innocent person. I pray that the community learns from this and people learn a lesson of love and tolerance from this horrible episode.

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Last updated at 1:01 PM on 09th September 2009

A devout Muslim pensioner attacked by a race-hate gang of schoolboys died yesterday.

Ekram Haque, 67, lost his fight for life a week after he was battered to the ground in front of his three-year-old granddaughter, Marian.

As revealed in yesterday's Daily Mail, he suffered horrific head injuries in the assault outside a mosque in Tooting, South-West London, where he had just prayed.

As he and Marian waited for a lift, the gang ran up behind him and clubbed him around the head.

Two other worshippers chased the thugs away but Mr Haque - described by friends as a 'gentle giant' - had suffered horrific head injuries.

His granddaughter has been left 'very shaken and disturbed', said her father, Mr Haque's son Arfan. Graphic images of the attack were caught on CCTV.

Scotland Yard formally launched a murder inquiry after Mr Haque passed away at St George's Hospital, Tooting, where he had been on a life-support machine since the attack.

Police are linking the assault on the retired care worker to a series of other attacks on elderly Asian people near the mosque.

Three of the earlier victims were also pensioners. As local community tensions grew, police stepped up patrols near the Idara E Jaaferiya mosque where Mr Haque was attacked last Monday.

Police say they are treating the attack on Mr Haque as racially motivated.

Arfan, 35, a consumer law adviser, described the incident as 'mindless violence' but urged people in the Muslim community to remain calm.

He said: 'I would urge people in our community to remember that Islam is a peaceful religion and does not condone revenge attacks. If you want to do anything, just pray.

'I have been very impressed how the police have dealt with the attack, and have full confidence in what they are doing.

'Obviously I am concerned for my daughter, who has given a very vivid account of what happened.'

Ekram Haque was born in Calcutta and moved to Belfast in search of work in 1972. He met his wife there and they moved to London in the early 1980s.

Mr Haque originally worked in textiles but later became a warden in a home for the disabled. He retired last year and was looking after Marian on weekdays.

At the time of the attack, he was making final preparations to take her to Pakistan and Australia on holiday.

His son said: 'My father loved living in Britain. He considered himself a Londoner. He was enjoying his retirement and seeing a lot of his granddaughter.

'He was a kind, loving person, who always went out of his way to support anyone who needed support. I just want justice.'

Detective Chief Inspector John McFarlane, from Scotland Yard's homicide and serious crime command, said: 'We urge people who may have been attacked, or who may know who these youths are, to come forward.'

Anyone with information is urged to call the police on 020 8721 4205 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

  • Two youths aged 14 and 15 have appeared before Wimbledon Youth Court accused of committing grievous bodily harm with intent on Mr Haque.
  • They and another boy, aged 12, are also accused of conspiracy to commit GBH and two counts of assault on victims in their 40s and 70s. Another 14-year-old has been charged over the attacks, but has yet to appear in court.
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