Did Allah create life?

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Hamada said:
U see if u go along that road and ask these type of questions, u could also continue asking who created that god and who created the one before him and so forth(infinity!)

Doesn't make sense, does it!

To make it easier on ur mind first accept that there is one god! (Nothing is before him, and nothing is after him!)
Don't get caught asking questions which will never have an answer to! Ur life will be a mess, because u going to end questioning stuff which will never be answered, NEVER!
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your right about that, god is an arbitrarily made terminator.

im worried about your not wanting people to ask questions that you dont have the answer to.
Aksing questions is good
 
-Ibn Al Aqwa- said:
When people begin trying to comprehend things they cannot, they begin confusing themselves and doubts are created. Them doubts are spurred by the shaytaan.

just thought id say that...Salaam...
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when peoplebdegin to trying to learn and to comprehend things they do not understand they grow. The desire to not learn , to close your eyes, is the true evil.
 
ranma1/2 said:
your right about that, god is an arbitrarily made terminator.

im worried about your not wanting people to ask questions that you dont have the answer to.
Aksing questions is good
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That is only so in the eyes of a person whos view is limited am afraid:(

I can't see how its free thinking, but then agian who am I to think that?
 
K.Venugopal said:
If there was no life till He created it, Allah would have been dead till He created life. This is a logical absurdity.
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yes, i agree it is a logical absurdity. i think it is because you are using your limited human understanding in an attempt to understand something that is beyond understanding.
 
K.Venugopal said:
One person is an Allah worshipper and another is an idol worshipper. As Allah helps his worshippers, the idols too are helping its worshippers. There are probably more idol worshippers than Allah-worshippers. Without some benefits both camps would have been bereft of worshippers. So let's accept the dictum - to each his own way.
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AvarAllahNoor already commented on this but i too am surprised at this statement. i've always been told by hindus that they don't worshp the idols - it just looks like it and that they realize the idols themselves do not help people. :hmm:
 
Hamada said:
He is the creator of all that excists, which makes him well worthy of worshipping!:)
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Now this statement makes me jump in again.

Why should a God be worthy to be worshipped if he/she/it/thing created us so imperfect? I mean, up from the first breath we take, we are doomed to die. Already oxygen kills us.
And in between, we have to suffer so many pains and face so many trials, so I would I worship him/her/it?

Peace
 
K.Venugopal said:
And that 'almost every single thing' excludes life. Yet the Quran says God created life. Where is the error?
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The error is in your understanding.

K.Venugopal said:
Your answer is good. You are saying the 'life' of humans is different from the 'life' of Allah. But does the Quran specifically say so?
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Allah said in the Quran something to the effect of: there is nothing like unto Him.

In other words, there is nothing like God.

God calls Himself al-Hayy - the Living. That does not mean He lives in the same way that we live, because God already said that nothing is like Him.

Put it simply:

God = Uncreated, ever-living.

God created life = for His creations. He does not have the same life that we have.

I hope you get it now, its been 11 pages of discussion on this... it's been stated over and over again, everyone else, even the non-Muslims, have got it...
 
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snakelegs said:
AvarAllahNoor already commented on this but i too am surprised at this statement. i've always been told by hindus that they don't worshp the idols - it just looks like it and that they realize the idols themselves do not help people. :hmm:
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Different Sects & Cults in Hinduism, preach their own things. Mostly fabricated to lure the un-educated masses.

God alone is worthy of praise. All religions make this clear & practice it.
 
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AvarAllahNoor said:
Different Sects & Cults in Hinduism, preach their own things. Mostly fabricated to lure the un-educated masses.

God alone is worthy of praise. All religions make this clear & practice it.
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When we say God is worthy of praise, it is almost as if we have sat in judgement and decided God is a worthy fellow. God might not be flattered!
 
K.Venugopal said:
You have quoted Mohammad. That was what was in Mohammad's mind. I am asking about what is in the Quran. That is what was in God's mind. How could God have claimed to have created life?

The result, Muslims believe it is the greatest thing to be a slave of Allah. Unquestioning, obedient and intolerant to other religions.
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To be a slave of Allah, you have to obey Allah. Allah commands muslims to be obedient, yes. Unquestioning when it comes to certain questions that our mind can not comprehend. And TOLERANT of other religions. read this.


As for the first part of your reply, that IS what was in God's mind. Anything Mohammed peace be upon him said regarding matters of religion were not from his own opinions or ideas; they were revelations by Allah. Allah said in the Quran "Nor does he (Muhammad) speak out of his desire. It is nothing but revelation that is revealed. (Quran 53:3-4)"
 
K.Venugopal said:
Now-a-days chairs are mass-produced by machines and we might only be interested to know which factory produced it. But even now in villages, when a chair of ornamentation is created, the fame of the carpenter is almost written into it. Why, if I draw a squarish horse and pass it off as drawn by M.F. Hussain, I might make a fast buck. That's because great drawings reflect the artist quite a bit.

"To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour."

-- William Blake, from "Auguries of Innocence"

I hope you got the flow of what I am saying.
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So what you meant by "God being present in everything", you did not mean literally? That's how I understood it, I apologize.

"the fame of the carpenter is almost written into it"
But the power and strength of Allah are written into everything he makes. I'm doing high school biology, and I'm astounded at how complicated even the simplest organisms are. And everything in this world is one of a kind, a signature design. Since when has anyone ever been able to make any living organism from thin air?
 
ranma1/2 said:
no, if god exists, it might get a thanks but thats all.
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I'm honestly dumbfounded at how anyone could think this way, even someone who doesn't acknowledge the existence of God. God gave you the ability to see, to hear, to taste, to smell, to touch, to experience emotions. Imagine we had to think about every time we needed to breathe, needed to control our digestion, respiration, hormone secretion, anything. Someone who gave you all of these blessings (and that's just looking at the human body, not the rest of creation), does not deserve to be worshiped?

If you really feel that way, I feel sorry for your parents. If you think the God who created you and everything else, what do you feel parents deserve? They raise you, discipline you, feed you, provide you with a home, etc. etc. According to your reasoning, they deserve even less than thanks. You don't have to obey them, or be kind to them, or anything. Truly a sad state.
 
K.Venugopal said:
Can you tell me whether man and say, cats, have the same life?
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No offense, but I feel as if you're going in circles. Men and cats have distinct attributes given to them by an All-powerful and superior being, ''Allaah''. Allaah has his own distinct attributes.

Cats and humans have an end (death) and a beginning(life), whilst Allaah has none of these attributes. Allaah is perfect, and 'alameen (all that exists) are subject to fall into traps and make mistakes unlike Allaah.

K.Venugopal said:
When we say God is worthy of praise, it is almost as if we have sat in judgement and decided God is a worthy fellow. God might not be flattered!
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So you're telling me the one who created you out of sheer mercy and grace is not worthy of praise? The one who gave you hands to type, and an intellect and intelligence to use does not deserve a thanks?

We are told to obey Allaah and our parents as well. Would you say the same for them? The mother who gave birth to you, fed you, clothed you, nurtured you, stayed up until you went to back to sleep, went through 24 hours of labour for..does not deserve a thanks?

And the originator of all of the universe does not deserve a thanks for providing you with this wondering human being?

Allaah only desires good for his beings, shouldn't you be grateful and show gratitude just for the simple fact that you are alive?

Subhan Allaah, we are so much better off than other people. And who provides us with the necessities to keep alive? Who is the originator of all created beings and creations?

It said that (I will post the hadeeth later on), that Allaah had 100% mercy. He saved 1% for humanity and 99% for himself. And just with that 1% he has given us so much. Ponder on that.
 
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