A plain spoken prediction of Jesus’ virgin birth.
Isaiah 7:10-16 (New International Version)
10 Again the LORD spoke to Ahaz, 11 "Ask the LORD your God for a sign, whether in the deepest depths or in the highest heights."
12 But Ahaz said, "I will not ask; I will not put the LORD to the test."
13 Then Isaiah said, "Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of men? Will you try the patience of my God also? 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. 15 He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right. 16 But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste.
What will this child bring about:
Isaiah 9:1-3
To Us a Child Is Born
1 Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordan-
2 The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
a light has dawned.
3 You have enlarged the nation
and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you
as people rejoice at the harvest,
as men rejoice
when dividing the plunder.
What will this child be called:
Isaiah 9:6-7
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.
What will be his future:
Daniel 7:9-14
9 "As I looked,
"thrones were set in place,
and the Ancient of Days took his seat.
His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.
10 A river of fire was flowing,
coming out from before him.
Thousands upon thousands attended him;
ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.
The court was seated,
and the books were opened.
11 "Then I continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. 12 (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)
13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
Explanation for this part of the vision:
Daniel 7:26-28
26 " 'But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. 27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.'
28 "This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I kept the matter to myself."
How does God allow this worship of anyone other than Himself?
After all we all know God is One:
Isaiah 45:5-6
5 I am the LORD, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,
6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
men may know there is none besides me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other.
God is One, that is made clear time and time again through out scripture.
Different faiths have interpreted the “One” to mean different things.
One thing that should be clear to anyone is that God forbids worshipping Idols or men or Angels.
We are taught to test the spirits. Some interpret that to mean to test a prophet and some interpret it to mean to test any spirit that may present a message or vision.
I believe both interpretations are correct.
Some have said how can God be 3 and yet be 1?
Some have denied Jesus as God even though we see Old Testament scripture showing that he will be worshipped.
How can Jesus be called Almighty God if he isn’t God?
He can’t.
I am not necessarily saying the trinity does exists or doesn’t exist, we aren’t given enough knowledge in this life time to know.
The Bible say’s God has a 7 fold spirit. What is the complete meaning of that description?
If you are going to speak from authority you should be able to explain it.
If you reject New Testament scripture then let’s go to more Old Testament:
Ezekiel 1:4-19 (New International Version)
4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.
10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings, one touching the wing of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body. 12 Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went. 13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it. 14 The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning.
15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. 16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like chrysolite, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not turn about as the creatures went. 18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around.
19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. 20 Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 21 When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
Let’s look at verse 10 and you explain a few things for me “10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle”.
Now is these creatures are four in number. I will ignore that for the time being because it would only serve to muddy the waters.
What I want to focus on is this:
Each creature has four faces. Let’s just say for the sake of having an example of things existing outside our earthly examples that we pretend that there is but one of these creatures and it is god. (I know it’s not, but humor me).
Now we can say God is ONE. We can also say God is Four.
Is one Face of God any less God than any other Face?
Is One face dominant over the three other faces? (Scripture say’s that when it moves. It moves straight ahead. It doesn’t say that three faces turn this way or that way to see which is the correct direction).
Let’s assume that the Four Faced creature has a spirit/soul, that like all other souls is un-seen, and that being is God so the spirit has to be Holy. Does that now make it 5 in 1?
Answer these questions with scripture and then you can speak with authority on the subject.
If a spirit ever comes to you in the middle of a fast with visions concerning if God is One or God is Three or if God is Seven Fold, test him with those questions.
If you or the spirit can’t answer those questions then neither has any place speaking with authority and saying Jesus wasn’t/isn’t God.
I hope this post isn’t against the rules, but I can’t think of a better way of showing what I am trying to show.
May God continue to en-lighten us all, amen.
Thanks
Nimrod
