Discussion with HinduIconoclast

[HinduIconoclast]

But if circumcision is so beneficial, why weren't boys born without foreskin?
"He Who has made everything which He has created MOST GOOD: He began the creation of man with (nothing more than) clay." - Qur'an 32:7

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

It's like saying why do we smell and have to take a shower or why do we have to use the toilet once in a while...it's called hygiene

 

[Charzhino]

HinuIconolast, just on a side note, how much of the Vedas have you read? I'm asking here because I cannot PM.

 

[HinduIconoclast]

But circumcision is a pre-emptive thing used to supposedly prevent future infection, etc. That would be like me saying that I might get an infection in my foot so I should cut it off beforehand.

 

[HinduIconoclast]

HinuIconolast, just on a side note, how much of the Vedas have you read? I'm asking here because I cannot PM.

I have read bits and pieces of the Vedas, not really enough to be an expert or anything like that but I could probably answer questions you have about the Vedas after some cross-referncing or using what knowledge I have.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^That made me laugh lol :X Anyway I dont have a specific answer for you. Maybe someone else can verify it

 

[HinduIconoclast]

Yeah its a valid point but can also be taken in jest. Anyway, I think we are going to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Proud of Islam]

But if circumcision is so beneficial, why weren't boys born without foreskin?
"He Who has made everything which He has created MOST GOOD: He began the creation of man with (nothing more than) clay." - Qur'an 32:7

It's like saying why do we smell and have to take a shower or why do we have to use the toilet once in a while...it's called hygiene

It’s also like if you say I’ll not remove the excrescent hair in the body, because it had been created like this, so it’s beneficial!

A simple answer for your question; human have lacks, because the only One Who Has the full and complete attributes is the God, Allah..


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Longing for the Paradise (Al-Jannah) where the endless happiness…

 

[HinduIconoclast]

That is a good point but if its not causing any problems, why remove it?

 

[Charzhino]

I have read bits and pieces of the Vedas, not really enough to be an expert or anything like that but I could probably answer questions you have about the Vedas after some cross-referncing or using what knowledge I have.

Well recently I have come across Prophecies of the Vedas and Bhavisyha Purana which predict accuratley the coming of people like Buddha, Jesus, Guru Nanak and Mohammed. What is your opinion on these prophecies, authentic or corrupted?

 

[Proud of Islam]

That is a good point but if its not causing any problems, why remove it?

because as I said previously :sunny: :

We will reach the truth, if we think logically, step by step :sunny:

If you want a decision from the doctors:
from my links & your link we can found that:

Doctors & scientists didn’t agree; some of them said that circumcision is beneficial & some of them said that it’s not beneficial (as you posted)..

So from them, we can’t decide since we have contradictive opinions.. And it's natural since the minds are different and their intelligences are not the same; human can make mistakes & say wrong things..

But, Mohammad (peace be upon him) commanded circumcision..
Mohammad (peace be upon him) is the messenger of Allah & says inspiration from Allah..
& Allah Has the complete and full attributes & His knowledge is without any wrong thing, He is THE CREATOR, THE GREAT ONE, THE WISE, THE ALL-KNOWING, THE JUDGE & THE TRUTH (these are some of Allah's 99 names)..


So, which group of doctors shall we believe?


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Longing for the Paradise (Al-Jannah) where the endless happiness…

 

[HinduIconoclast]

Ok ok, I'm going to look into this topic further in my own research and I'll get back to you if I change my stance.

 

[Proud of Islam]

Ok, and about eating porks & hejab, I'll write about them later insha Allah..

I need to rest! the problem with me in these discussions is the language.. It takes effort from me to express what I know, in a second language..

Anyway, we'll complete our discussion soon insha Allah ^^


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[HinduIconoclast]

Sounds good, I look forward to it.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/Peace

I have read bits and pieces of the Vedas, not really enough to be an expert or anything like that but I could probably answer questions you have about the Vedas after some cross-referncing or using what knowledge I have.

we had a thread here on questions about Hinduism . This was closed because the hindu participant did not like to continue . If u have time & patience ( to tolerate offensive questions u may recieve there ) , then we may ask bro Woodrow or other mod to re- start that thread . I have also some questions about Hinduism but discussion might be off topic here.

 

[HinduIconoclast]

I would love to answer any questions you have about Hinduism. Please post another post on this thread with a link to the new thread and I will see what I can do.

 

[Charzhino]

I would love to answer any questions you have about Hinduism. Please post another post on this thread with a link to the new thread and I will see what I can do.

You get my question beofre in this thread? I think you may have missed it

 

[HinduIconoclast]

I have read bits and pieces of the Vedas, not really enough to be an expert or anything like that but I could probably answer questions you have about the Vedas after some cross-referncing or using what knowledge I have.

I'm pretty sure I already answered it (this is a previous post which I guess you didn't see Charzhino).

 

[Charzhino]

I'm pretty sure I already answered it (this is a previous post which I guess you didn't see Charzhino).

See post 50

 

[HinduIconoclast]

Well recently I have come across Prophecies of the Vedas and Bhavisyha Purana which predict accuratley the coming of people like Buddha, Jesus, Guru Nanak and Mohammed. What is your opinion on these prophecies, authentic or corrupted?

Ahh, I see. My mistake.

What you have to know first of all about the Puranas is that they are not very authentic. If you actually go and read some of the Puranas you will see what I'm talking about. The Puranas were created much later than the Vedas were (in the era of the predominance of the Puranic deities in the Hindu pantheon which is the current time still). So, most Hindus who are somewhat knowledgeable about their scriptures do not take the Puranas as being authentic scriptures.

As for the purported Vedic prophecies, I have looked through those (because I have also heard about them before) and to me they are not very definite in describing Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) much at all.

Also, the Vedas never mention any place outside ancient India (from Afghanistan in the east to Southeast Asia in the east and the Himalayas in the north to Sri Lanka in the south) - boundaries which Arabia falls outside of. Therefore, I don't think that any of the Vedic prophecies that are purported to be about Propeht Muhammad (pbuh) are actually about him.

Also, to those Muslims who do believe that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was prophecied in the Vedas (I'm not talking baout the Puranas now because they are inauthentic), I have a question to ask: How come no one has come forward with prophecies in the Vedas that talk about Adam, Noah, Abraham, or Moses (may peace be upon them all)? - If you do have such prophecies, I would like to read them.