Do you hate Americans?

[Pygoscelis]

I'm not muslim and I'm not from the USA Does that make me unique on this board? I am technically american, but so is Chavez. I'm Canadian.

I hate the current US regime in power as well as the stereotypical american. Lets not forget these people - the ones who wave the US flag and scream about "USA USA USA, #1" etc. Who care more about US interests than foreign lives. The loudmouths. THe stereotype exists for a reason, as many of these people do roam the streets of the USA.

But of course, there are many nice decent people in the USA too, they just don't get the attention, don't form a stereotype, and don't draw my ire.

Edited to add: Actually thats a good point. Even the name "america" in reference to the US is arrogant. Calling the US "America" is like calling France "Europe".

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^Your right. The good don't get enough publicity.

 

[Woodrow]

I do have to agree with this comment.

Edited to add: Actually thats a good point. Even the name "america" in reference to the US is arrogant. Calling the US "America" is like calling France "Europe".

America is a lot bigger than just the USA. When a person speaks of America that includes many countries. Plus we are all Americans in terms of living in America. Fidel Castro and Chavez are just as Much American as George Bush, in fact they are more American as their forefathers were here centuries before George Bush"s ancestors were.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Chavez should SO put that in his next speech. He seems to enjoy riling the Bushies. He should say something to the effect of "I'm proud to be an American!" lol

Also, he and other anti-bush south americans should join up and form a coalition called the "United States of America".

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^LOL! thatd be hilarious...;D

 

[Cognescenti]

There seem to be 3 main foci of anti-Americansim here:

1) Bitterness over a perceived American war on Islam. This, I think, could be assuaged by ammending the US Consitution, establishing Islam as the state religion and applying Sharia. Challenging, yes, but at least still possible. Of course, this would mean the end of Baywatch reruns, but, such is life.

2) Anger, frustration and, even jealousy over economic disparity. The free market will ultimately fix this, but it will take some time. Note the ironic fact that Vietnam, which might understandibly harbor some resentment toward the US, and ostensibly fought to establish a Marxist state, now gets this and has jumped in with both feet, welcoming US tourists and strongly courting business ties.

3) The most intractible problem seems to be the international eunuchoid movement, who, quite naturally, resent those who retain that which God has given them. I can't see a solution to this poblem......... ..........................except...perhaps.....<shudders>

 

[Cognescenti]

On this issue of usurpation of the term "American"...again, it is not arrogance or cultural jingoism, but simply a question of practicality. What do you expect residents of the US to call themselves?

"US'ers"...cumbersome
"Yanks"...historically inappropriate

Besides...think of all those "America Go Home", "America, Get Out of XXXX" and "Ugly American" posters that would have to be thrown out. We already have a landfill shortage on the planet.

Many may not know, but the Mexicans (and most of the other Central Americans) already call us Norteamericanos (when they are being polite..otherwise its "Gringo" or "Anglo" or a number of other unmentionables)

Of course, this doesn't say much for what Central Americans think of Canada :smile:

Lastly, for the Hugo fans...I hope you are getting some really good odds, because I think you are backing the wrong horse.

 

[Cognescenti]

I do have to agree with this comment.



America is a lot bigger than just the USA. When a person speaks of America that includes many countries. Plus we are all Americans in terms of living in America. Fidel Castro and Chavez are just as Much American as George Bush, in fact they are more American as their forefathers were here centuries before George Bush"s ancestors were.

Fidel Casto is a Native American ? :uuh: That is news to me.

BTW...there are many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of Cubans who now call themselves "Americans"...a significant number of them floated in overloaded craft or half swam through 90 miles of shark infested waters to get here. I guess they weren't too worried about American cultural hegemony, were they?

 

[England]

Why should we hate the Americans apart from pure bigotry? State your reasons.

 

[Erundur]

Fidel Casto is a Native American ? :uuh: That is news to me.

BTW...there are many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of Cubans who now call themselves "Americans"...a significant number of them floated in overloaded craft or half swam through 90 miles of shark infested waters to get here. I guess they weren't too worried about American cultural hegemony, were they?

:salamext:

Castro could be native american since many of the conquistadores that came to conquer central and south america basically took a lot of indigenous women and used them for there own sexual purposes. I believe he has some Native American blood in him.

As for me...Nope, I do not hate Americans be it South, Central, or North.

a lot of people from the U.S. are very nice just as a lot of people are not. It can be applied anywhere.

As for the U.S. constitution its one **** fine piece of legislation for a secular document. Including the Bill of Rights.:thumbs_up

Plus having the ability to make games like God of War, Gears of War, Kingdom Hearts, Madden and various other games doesn't make them seem bad either

 

[brenton]

Why should we hate the Americans apart from pure bigotry? State your reasons.

I wonder this too. I don't hate Americans; I'm just glad I don't have to live in that culture. I fear for my niece and nephew who live there, but they are part of a loving community, so I'm sure they'll be okay.

In fact, I love Americans, and many of the things they've brought to our world.

As for terminology: get over it. I'm North American (Canadian), but not American. I don't mind. Catholic and American and latin and all kinds of words have become more specific than they really are. Oh well, learn and move on.

 

[Woodrow]

I wonder this too. I don't hate Americans; I'm just glad I don't have to live in that culture. I fear for my niece and nephew who live there, but they are part of a loving community, so I'm sure they'll be okay.

In fact, I love Americans, and many of the things they've brought to our world.

As for terminology: get over it. I'm North American (Canadian), but not American. I don't mind. Catholic and American and latin and all kinds of words have become more specific than they really are. Oh well, learn and move on.

All of that is true. The Americas are very diverse. There really is no such thing as a single culture that can be called American. Immediatly you have the differences between North American and South American. North American you have the immediate differences between Canadian, USA and Mexican. Then within each you have the seperate States and Communities. Each is very distinct and individual. The term American covers a lot of ground. I think the problem is many people are under the misconception that there is a single American ideology and that is what they tend to label all Americans as.

 

[Cognescenti]

I do have to agree with this comment.

America is a lot bigger than just the USA. When a person speaks of America that includes many countries. Plus we are all Americans in terms of living in America. Fidel Castro and Chavez are just as Much American as George Bush, in fact they are more American as their forefathers were here centuries before George Bush"s ancestors were.

Woodrow;

In regard to Castro, it seems his father was a Spanish immigrant and his mother was described by Cubans as a "mulatto" domestic servant. This is usually used by Spanish-speakers to describe people of mixed African and European heritage. "Mestizo" is the term usually reserved by Spanish speakers for mixed European and Native American heritage. So it seems, Castro, like Bush, is the son of immigrants to the new world, some voluntary, some not so.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Well the difficulty of USA people calling themselves something more specific than "american" is self inflicted though now isn't it? I mean, isn't it about time this country gave itself a real name?

I suggest Fred. From now on all USA people I shall call Freds.

 

[Cognescenti]

Well the difficulty of USA people calling themselves something more specific than "american" is self inflicted though now isn't it? I mean, isn't it about time this country gave itself a real name?

I suggest Fred. From now on all USA people I shall call Freds.

Cool idea! As in Fredonia you mean?

There may be some copyright issues.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Well I'll give them the choice then. THey may be Fred or they may be Sally.

 

[guyabano]

Ok so in another thread the statement "I hate Americans" has been brought up several times. With the moderators permission I would like to discuss this further. Anyone who posts in this thread please leave your anger outside because I really want this to be a civilized discussion.

I realize that there is great hatred in the world for the action of the USA over the years. I as an american hate that too. But to generalize that all american are evil sits wrong for me. Is it not the same as saying all mulisms are terrorists?

NO, I don't hate americans. In fact, I pity them. They live in a LALA Land, pretending it's made of Milk and Honey (or call it Coca Cola and Mc Donalds). But fact is, they have such a short history, have no experience collected over centuries, but then, like to play World Police, but behave like a child with a gun in the hand. So pityful !

Anyway, this is the Worldmap according to USofA you can find in every Bookstore over there

 

[Keltoi]

NO, I don't hate americans. In fact, I pity them. They live in a LALA Land, pretending it's made of Milk and Honey (or call it Coca Cola and Mc Donalds). But fact is, they have such a short history, have no experience collected over centuries, but then, like to play World Police, but behave like a child with a gun in the hand. So pityful !

Anyway, this is the Worldmap according to USofA you can find in every Bookstore over there

The United States as quite a bit of experience packed into that short history. As for your little map image there, it looks real cute and funny. Not sure what you are trying to suggest with it however, unless you assume that Americans are somehow ignorant of the rest of the world. Of course some Americans don't care about Portugal, why should they? The reason Europeans care more about geography is because their countries are locked together like a jigsaw puzzle. Hard to escape that.

 

[MTAFFI]

NO, I don't hate americans. In fact, I pity them. They live in a LALA Land, pretending it's made of Milk and Honey (or call it Coca Cola and Mc Donalds). But fact is, they have such a short history, have no experience collected over centuries, but then, like to play World Police, but behave like a child with a gun in the hand. So pityful !

Anyway, this is the Worldmap according to USofA you can find in every Bookstore over there

Being an American I pity you for having such distorted childish views of the world around you. What is really sad, is that you are right we have a short history, but in that short history we have accomplished more for our society today than any other country. I would love to see what your map of the world looks like...

 

[SATalha]

I think the map sums it up for me. Lol I am only joking