Does anyone meditate?

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Thank you for explaining. Can I ask, where do we draw the line though?

If I want to go shopping to buy a new pair of shoes, this is not pleasing Allah swt at all, it's purely 100% without any doubt for me and my ego. Is this not allowed? I am not allowed to buy a pair of pretty shoes because it makes me feel good which in turn is self absorption? You see where it starts to get out of control and suddenly nothing is permissible.

I have a nice bracelet that I like to wear, should I just take it off as it serves absolutely no purpose to the creator of the universe? Of course I say alhamdulillah that my father is able to buy it for me but it's still an unnecessary item so we just get rid of it? Where is the line between worshipping Allah swt and living to please him and allowing ourselves some personal pleasures? Such pleasures are not permissible or what?

Surely we are allowed to enjoy something for no other reason than because it makes us happy?

Ofcourse you are lol
But you just have to know where to draw the line i.e do you really need it, can that not be spent doing something else thats better

Your allowed nice things but if it is a ego or pride thing you shouldnt indulge in it as pride can take you jahhanumm why would you indulge yourself into something that actually adds fuel into your fire so to speak.
Maybe re-check your intentions to, im gonna buy these shoes coz theyre really really pretty, and i have the means to buy them and i love preety things...Allah loves beautiful things and has given me the means to be able to buy these nice things, Alhamdulilah as other people cant even afford food (something along those lines in sha Allah just rectify your intentions)

The thing is that women like to look preety and nice and love nice things we are allowed to wear silk, gold silver etc etc, but if being able to buy and wear these things goes to our heads and makes us pridefull or makes us feel better than other people who dont have them then it becomes a problem, usually when people get what they want all the time and have money always have happy times they forget the times when they didnt have these "luxuries" they then become ungrateful self absored and loose all humbleness to people who dont have what they have
Then it can also leads to someone who may be flaunting and then somone gets jelous or envious and bang there goes evil eye.

You just have to be carefull

Ofcourse be happy enjoy life to the full extenxt you can but remember your lord allowed you that happiness and it can be taken away from you in the blink of an eye hence saying Alhamdulilah and being gratefull and humble and remembering that it came from Allah like your bracelet it came from Allah by the means of your dad :)

You have to think logically and practically but also rectify your intentions
Islam only becomes hard when you make it hard on yourself no1 is perfect but the aim is to strive
 
Ofcourse you are lol
But you just have to know where to draw the line i.e do you really need it, can that not be spent doing something else thats better

Your allowed nice things but if it is a ego or pride thing you shouldnt indulge in it as pride can take you jahhanumm why would you indulge yourself into something that actually adds fuel into your fire so to speak.
Maybe re-check your intentions to, im gonna buy these shoes coz theyre really really pretty, and i have the means to buy them and i love preety things...Allah loves beautiful things and has given me the means to be able to buy these nice things, Alhamdulilah as other people cant even afford food (something along those lines in sha Allah just rectify your intentions)

The thing is that women like to look preety and nice and love nice things we are allowed to wear silk, gold silver etc etc, but if being able to buy and wear these things goes to our heads and makes us pridefull or makes us feel better than other people who dont have them then it becomes a problem, usually when people get what they want all the time and have money always have happy times they forget the times when they didnt have these "luxuries" they then become ungrateful self absored and loose all humbleness to people who dont have what they have
Then it can also leads to someone who may be flaunting and then somone gets jelous or envious and bang there goes evil eye.

You just have to be carefull

Ofcourse be happy enjoy life to the full extenxt you can but remember your lord allowed you that happiness and it can be taken away from you in the blink of an eye hence saying Alhamdulilah and being gratefull and humble and remembering that it came from Allah like your bracelet it came from Allah by the means of your dad :)

You have to think logically and practically but also rectify your intentions
Islam only becomes hard when you make it hard on yourself no1 is perfect but the aim is to strive

I think the problem arises when you buy something to impress someone else or make someone else jealous. If I buy a new pair of shoes it's not for anyone else other than me because I like how they look or whatever. I am always grateful for everything I have. However back to meditation, I don't think there is anything wrong with spending a few minutes contemplating your life and awareness. For a lot of Muslims it's just a way to relax.

Thank you for explaining :)
 
LOL this is exactly what's wrong with the muslims of today. So compromised.

Only thinking about serving themselves rather than the Almighty. Sure you can buy yourself nice things, but do you reflect on who you're pleasing when you adorn yourself? Your Creator or others? You should be questioning everything you do. EVERYTHING should be for HIS sake and nobody elses. For HE gave you the ability to even make those decisions for yourself. Do you not reflect on the covenant that Allah swt took from us when He brought out the descendants of Adam as from his loin? Subhan'Allah the ummah of today!

Humble yourself, we are worth nothing, we are merely His Slaves.

And for the level of logic surrounding technology and why we shouldn't use it because it's kuffar......lol I hope you're kidding me there.
God has absolutely blessed us with technology, it's how we use it that we'll be judged on.

I think you've completely misunderstood what I've said regarding meditation. Our whole being should be in constant Dhikr of Allah Azza wa Jal, in everything we do we should be remembering Him and His Blessings. The whole concept of today's meditation is merely self worship and a waste of time spent on thoughts other than Allah, which I strongly disagree on. And if you cannot see that then well what exactly are you doing on an islamic board? The truth is harsh, I don't water things down for anyone, we will all be facing our graves. TRUTH.

And for [MENTION=39005]Challenged[/MENTION] akhi there's no harm in visualising your thought processes through like as long as they're with the best of intentions for the Sake of pleasing Allah swt. (from what I understand of your question, forgive me if I have not understood it)

~LV
 
Someone wrote that the Prophet Muhammad pbuh "meditated" in the cave, in the period before the prophethood was given to him.

This is wholly innaccurate.

Meditating involves the "empty mind" concept - I ask - do you really think the Prophet Muhammad pbuh went to a cave to empty his mind and forget the injustice that was occurring in Makkah?

NOOOO.

He went up there to think and be alone with his thoughts. Not to empty his mind.

You lot need to learn the definitions of words and their application principles more.

Meditation is boring, stupid and useless.

Oh and before someone chimes in with "breathing exercises" lol - I have an adrenal condition and I practice breathing exercises - guess what? It aint meditation. Sheesh.

Meditation is self excuse to disconnect from "reality". why would any Muslim want to disconnect from reality? Are you guys insane?

Scimi
 
God has absolutely blessed us with technology, it's how we use it that we'll be judged on.

God also blessed us with shoes and bags :statisfie I do take what you say seriously sister and I will reflect on it, no pun intended.

Meditation is self excuse to disconnect from "reality". why would any Muslim want to disconnect from reality? Are you guys insane?
Scimi

It can be a way to release stress and tension.
 
So we should spend every moment of our lives thinking only about Allah swt? Don't be ridiculous... if that was the case he would have created us in a box, he gave us our lives and our world for a reason. The prophet saaw meditated extensively, not just about Allah swt and the Quran but about life and the world.

Allah swt also gave us imagination, thought, serotonin and dopamine. I really detest the Muslims that think nothing is allowed in this dunya than to worship Allah swt.

You live between two extremes don't you?

FIND THE MIDDLE PATH.

Scimi
 
I don't usually meditate but have tried yoga and it's close to meditation.Its all about the now and living in the present moment .Meditation is beneficial too and you should continue that as a lot of times in our life we are so caught on the next big thing the next event function etc we forget to focus and enjoy the moment.Just Breathe and appreciate Allahs bounties for what we have we are and we live.Breathing deeply meditating prayer and supplication give you a sense of wellbeing .Its a great therapy for me :)Just trying to get five ten minutes for meditation is productive and does bring peace.Though I'm not consistent in yoga or meditating being introvert im usually in my head so don't need a lot of time to go even deeper in meditation but I guess few minutes do you good if you try.Specefically if you want to feel more relaxed and calm and if your always moving and being in a rush then it's pretty healthy to try.So yes I'd like to try meditation it all depends on how consistent you are and what works for you.:)
 
God also blessed us with shoes and bags :statisfie I do take what you say seriously sister and I will reflect on it, no pun intended.



It can be a way to release stress and tension.

We mean what we say with love ukhti, reflect on everything with an open heart. Allah says, “Take one step towards me, I will take ten steps towards you. Walk towards me, I will run towards you.” [Hadith Qudsi]

Peace be upon you
 
Meditation is self excuse to disconnect from "reality". why would any Muslim want to disconnect from reality? Are you guys insane?

Scimi

To you meditation might be this. To someone else it´s something very different and then it´s not insanity.
 
I don't usually meditate but have tried yoga and it's close to meditation.Its all about the now and living in the present moment .Meditation is beneficial too and you should continue that as a lot of times in our life we are so caught on the next big thing the next event function etc we forget to focus and enjoy the moment.Just Breathe and appreciate Allahs bounties for what we have we are and we live.Breathing deeply meditating prayer and supplication give you a sense of wellbeing .Its a great therapy for me :)Just trying to get five ten minutes for meditation is productive and does bring peace.Though I'm not consistent in yoga or meditating being introvert im usually in my head so don't need a lot of time to go even deeper in meditation but I guess few minutes do you good if you try.Specefically if you want to feel more relaxed and calm and if your always moving and being in a rush then it's pretty healthy to try.So yes I'd like to try meditation it all depends on how consistent you are and what works for you.:)

And this [MENTION=31950]Timi Scar[/MENTION] is why I am confused and lost. It seems everyone has different opinions about all kinds of things nobody really seems to know what path to follow. All we can do is try to be the best muslim we can and to follow the Quran and Sunnah the best we can.
 
How? I'm pretty lost to be honest :(

I'll help you sister, if I am able to, in sha Allah.

In Islam we have every solution to every human condition known. Every single one.

First of all, before I continue, I want it to be understood that all human beings, since Adam Alalihis Salam to the last man alive before the horn is blown - were all given the exact same emotions/feelings. Nothing has really changed.

We are not different to humans who were alive ten thousand years ago, ok?

We are still the same species, with the same ideas about life, justice, equity, etc etc etc.

What has changed though, is how we interpret these feelings, thoughts, and emotions in this - the modern age.

Today, we are sold inversions of truthful ideas in the media, TV, magazines, web etc... inversions such as "you only live once [YOLO]" so "you can do what you like".... these are dangerous ideas.

We do not only live once.

We were souls wiped off the back of Adam in Heaven and we took an oath to Allah that we say Laa Ilaha Ila Allah... then we were born in this world, then we will die and awake in the grave, then we will be raised again on the day of judgement to live out another term according to our judgement.

Where is YOLO now? YOLO is in hell becoming barbeque meat.

When people live between two extremes, they tend to find themselves either going full on 100% total Muslim hard core fanatic, or the total opposite - Brown nose yes man to the suit, and the hedonistic principles that come along with that.

A Muslim rejects both, the extreme and the liberal free for all mindset.

A Muslim who seeks the middle path, is the type of person who takes responsibility for their every thought, action and deed.

NOW - when I use the word "responsiblity" I do not use this lightly.

A middle path is best achieved through knowledge, not ignorance - if we as Muslims neglect learning our Islam and instead find the appeal of eastern mysticism such as meditation - and get caught up in the hype of it because so many non Muslims rant and rave about how cool meditation is, how beneficial it is in calming one down etc etc etc - and haven't even sought to keep five salah on time - does this sound like middle path? nope.

Knowledge kills ignorance.

In Islam, it is well known that those who turn away from the remembrance of Allah will find no peace. You wanted to meditate to find peace - you couldn't even achieve emptying your mind because it is not natural to do so. It is natural to think about things, consider them, work them out... NOT - ignore them, shun them away or ban the thoughts so you can have a "clear mind".... this idea of clear mind is total nonsense.

In the Qur'an, so many times Allah asks us "Do you not think? do you not contemplate? do you not see? do you not consider? do you not realise?" - NOT - empty your mind and forget and don't think, dont consider, dont realise etc - but the opposite. He wants you to take charge, and think and learn - to educate yourself so you can be the light reflecting Islam to those around you... not that empty nonsense which benefits no one which is called meditation.

The only time you will have a truly empty mind is if your brains fall out. Ok? The metaphysical nonsense others talk of in terms of meditation is ALL BS. Trust me - I used to sell that BS back in my twenties, it's all distraction from your impending responsibilities.

I honestly advise the following if you truly seek to find the middle path.

Study Qur'an

Study the Seerah of the Prophet pbuh

Study the serah of the first three khaliphs of Islam,

And READ SLOWLY, deliberately, stopping after each paragraph, and going over in your mind what you just understood.

Reading is calming experience, one that helps us to relax - but it's not mediation - it's education. It actually benefits instead of yielding a "Nothing" - you understand?

With Allah's mercy, one step at a time, you will come closer and closer to the middle path - as long as you try your best to practice that which Islam teaches you.

It's an adventure like no other - Islam is so excellent a choice of life.

Scimi
 
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And this @Timi Scar is why I am confused and lost. It seems everyone has different opinions about all kinds of things nobody really seems to know what path to follow. All we can do is try to be the best muslim we can and to follow the Quran and Sunnah the best we can.

I do.

So do others,

But those who posted in this thread that they meditate - SURELY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SPEAK OF LOL. Do not listen to the "yes crew", they will lead you to fire and themselves alongside.

Yoga is haraam.

Exercise and stretching is not.

Scimi
 
To you meditation might be this. To someone else it´s something very different and then it´s not insanity.

No. I used to teach meditation and a heck of a lot of other nonsense in my twenties - you do not know what you are talking about and are taking jabs in the dark - just so you can be "right".

Calm your nafs.

Scimi
 
Iqra!

JazakAllah Khair Akhi Scimi
 
And for @Challenged akhi there's no harm in visualising your thought processes through like as long as they're with the best of intentions for the Sake of pleasing Allah swt. (from what I understand of your question, forgive me if I have not understood it)

~LV

Salaamu allikum

Jazakallahu khair

I have some... challenges - at least compared to what 'social propriety' dictates regarding functional practicality. Alhamdulillah, Allah subhano wa Ta'ala saw fit to counter, said challenges, with some rather wonderful blessings. Some of the veils of "sight", that reside on much of bano Adam, and indeed some of the members of this forum, are intermittently removed and replaced allowing me to "see" some wonderful truths that exist within the world. Truly we are naught but tourists.

I wanted very much to respond to some of the previous posts with the intention of highlighting the fact that your point was largely missed, if not ignored and subsequently disrespected, with absolutely nothing to be said for any form of awareness of Allah subhano wa Ta'ala and His Divinely Perfect Status above ALL creation.

As it turns out, I was beaten to the point. Alhamdulillah - the message sounds much better having come from someone else. Less of a challenge to my after-thought processes, and I dare say that the point may have been taken more seriously. Jazakallah khair for your insight. [MENTION=31950]Timi Scar[/MENTION] - Jazakallah khair for being such a staunch advocate considering what blessed knowledge resides in your mind.

Regarding the visualisation processes; Given the above admission of challenges, and blessings inherently found within my drop of knowledge - both from Allah subhano wa Ta'ala - perhaps its fair to say that I have an appreciation of training the mind to be more and more conscious of our beloved Creator. And if I ever forgot I need only return to IB and witness the blasphemic atmosphere created by some of the members here and I'm suddenly jolted back to reality where I thank Allah subhano wa Ta'ala for my challenges and blessings. Truly I could be in a much, much worse situation regarding accountability of actions, words and choices.

My challenge is that I'm far too easily distracted, and yet I have a rather powerful mind. This being said, I'm significantly deficient in other areas.

So... the reason I asked about visualisation processes was simply to obtain feedback to judge whether or not I should train myself to NOT to entertain them.

Jazakallahu khair.

As always, Allahu alem.
 
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Do you mean that to someone else the meditation can´t never mean something else than to you? I have no idea what are the main technics they teach (who actually?) about meditation. Why at least to teach something so simple? It´s only needed to stay in peace and empty your mind from all nonsense you have got to there during the day like the expiration and then give to your imagination the wings to fly. But maybe now the experts of meditation don´t count it to the real meditation.

And this is an imitation of non-believers? Hmmm...
 
we shouldnt be nitpicking or looking down on someone's lack of knowledge on something you know, they may have not known or not understood or have a different opinion

We all were once at a point of not knowing anything and by the mecry of Allah He granted us all knowledge to share

The harshness towards people is NOT needed it does not help the situation, there is a way to speak to people in a pefectly fine polite manner whilst giving direct truths without the arragont tone and insulting the persons lack of knowledge or understanding

How you deliver the message is as important as the message itself

This is ramadan and we should be reflecting on ourselves including our character which is just as important
We hear so much about being humble and patient in Quran and hadeeths but no-one wants to do it and are quick to be harsh and have a judgemental mentality
 
Do you mean that to someone else the meditation can´t never mean something else than to you?

Please rephrase, this question is not making sense to me. But i'll take a shot anyway.

Meditation is simply the act of disconnecting from your reality - it is not a good thing and not taught in Islam - in fact, it is quite the opposite in Islam because Islam teaches us to be aware of our thoughts, and to train the mind to be stronger in will so we can adhere to the principles taught in Islam - it can be argued that when a Muslim makes salaah, they are meditation but this is wrong - we are woshipping with the utmost concentration in order to please our Lord - whereas in meditation we please no one, and end up kinda bored - some people actually enjoy that boredom because it's an escape from their reality... A Muslim does not escape their reality - we face it head on.

Often I read people on forums claiming they are "searching for truth" lol - Muslims "face truth every day" we don't need to search for it, we have it already.

I have no idea what are the main techniques they teach (who actually?) about meditation. Why at least to teach something so simple? It´s only needed to stay in peace and empty your mind from all nonsense you have got to there during the day like the expiration and then give to your imagination the wings to fly. But maybe now the experts of meditation don´t count it to the real meditation.

I've already answered this in this very post.

And this is an imitation of non-believers? Hmmm...

In short - YES. TOTALLY.

Study Al Ghazali and you will find the proof of it. Imam al Ghazali was given the title "The Proof of Islam". Study his works, his life, and see for yourself.

The Prophet pbuh is reported to have said "do not imitate the disbelievers" - do you forget?

Scimi
 
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