Does the Christian Bible ever portray the disciples worshipping Jesus?

[Grace Seeker]

let me pull a grace seeker... have no idea what 'synopitics' or 'creduality' means? in (I know how you love to be lost in semantics when all else fails) and I just felt it important to point out the error as you were so gracious to do a post ago

Ooops! Thank-you for the corrections. Synoptics was a typo. And while I suspect that you know, perhaps others don't, so it is worth explaining that tern refers to the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke that are so similar as appear to be written from the same point of view.

As for credulity, I really do need to learn how to spell better.


And as for the sentence in your post that I couldn't understand, I wasn't being picky, I really couldn't understand it. And it wasn't just the lack of the "c" in "can". I tried that and still had trouble understanding it until you reworded it later. I know English isn't your native tongue; yet you do so much better than many native speakers anyway that I try to look past the occassion curious grammatical construction if I can at all figure out what you are trying to say. But on that occassion I couldn't figure it out, and that is the only reason why I asked you to restate it.

 

[Follower]

Basically what I am understanding Gossamer skye to be saying is that it is possible for a scribe to twist the Word of GOD out of context even though there would be other copies spread out among many followers that could be used to show that the text had in fact been twisted.

 

[جوري]

firstly your bible isn't the word of God, considering you can't even get passages from two bibles to agree (see previous)-- as well the consensus of your churches
and secondly I am sure there were many similar bibles circulating amongst 'followers' in 300AD given the printing press wasn't invented until 1500 something..

I don't even know why you bother write? I think it is prudent you sit and read your church leaders on this forum, they might teach you a thing or two about the art of forming an opinion that has some semblance of normalcy so you are not taking up webspace on utter nonsense!


all the best

 

[Follower]

AAhh but it is.

Do you understand the concept of GOD inspiring, or let's say revealing a thought to man then allowing man to put it into the human language he is most versed in?

The men in charge of receiving the the revelation of the Holy Bible were learned, literate. They were capable of putting the thoughts given to then by GOD into coherant sentences on their own.

God did not have to give the revelation that is the holy Bible word by word for a man that could not read or write to memorize.

My understanding is that the Quran was revealed word by word for Mohammad to memorize- I say of course it had to be done this way with the Quran. How would an illerate man be able to put just thoughts revealed into a coherant message?

The New Testament writers had many hundreds of other believers that knew the truth of the message, they had seen and spent time with Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15
6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.

 

[جوري]

AAhh but it is.

it is what?

Do you understand the concept of GOD inspiring, or let's say revealing a thought to man then allowing man to put it into the human language he is most versed in?

Not the Christian concept of it, since the gods have inspired men to go against his commandments (Satan inspired) perhaps can you distinguish the difference?

The men in charge of receiving the the revelation of the Holy Bible were learned, literate. They were capable of putting the thoughts given to then by GOD into coherant sentences on their own.

So coherent that no two bibles agree, let alone to the nature of the Divine.. wasn't he water to you just the other day?

God did not have to give the revelation that is the holy Bible word by word for a man that could not read or write to memorize.

I agree, God didn't give it to the folks who wrote your bibles.. glad we see eye to eye on something!

My understanding is that the Quran was revealed word by word for Mohammad to memorize- I say of course it had to be done this way with the Quran. How would an illerate man be able to put just thoughts revealed into a coherant message?

One of the wonders of the inimitable Quran indeed for those who reflect.. there it is.. perfection in lyricism, perfection in dictations, perfection in its commands, perfection in its politics, perfection in its social reforms.

The New Testament writers had many hundreds of other believers that knew the truth of the message, they had seen and spent time with Jesus.

and they are dropping out faster than you can say man/god

1 Corinthians 15
6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.

I love stuff and nonsense as much as the next guy

all the best

 

[Follower]

"since the gods have inspired men to go against his commandments (Satan inspired) perhaps can you distinguish the difference?"

You are correct satan has inspired men to go against the commandments of GOD and yes it is actually simple.

 

[جوري]

"since the gods have inspired men to go against his commandments (Satan inspired) perhaps can you distinguish the difference?"

You are correct satan has inspired men to go against the commandments of GOD and yes it is actually simple.

I am glad you agree!

all the best

 

['Abd-al Latif]

For christians;

The message of Jesus was a simple message;

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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2J2sF476ok[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IoyrY5OycY[/media]

 

[Follower]

Gossamer skye- I wanted to send you a pm before I was banned, but was unable. it appears I am really good at offending Muslims.

So I will just say it publically- You seem to be a wounded person very much in pain, hurt, angry, etc.

I will add you to my prayers- is there anything specific you might need prayers for?

Hopefully, I will continue to see you on the forum.

 

[Tony]

Gossamer skye- I wanted to send you a pm before I was banned, but was unable. it appears I am really good at offending Muslims.

So I will just say it publically- You seem to be a wounded person very much in pain, hurt, angry, etc.

I will add you to my prayers- is there anything specific you might need prayers for?

Hopefully, I will continue to see you on the forum.

PEACE BROTHER, just pray that her way is made easy. Its a forum that gets heated by its nature. May Allah make us aware of each others importance here. Peace

 

[جوري]

Gossamer skye- I wanted to send you a pm before I was banned, but was unable. it appears I am really good at offending Muslims.

So I will just say it publically- You seem to be a wounded person very much in pain, hurt, angry, etc.

I will add you to my prayers- is there anything specific you might need prayers for?

Hopefully, I will continue to see you on the forum.

if you were banned you wouldn't be able to post this no? I simply tired of receiving messages from your ilk so I blocked everyone..
you have an inability to reason, simple logic as pertains to people, comparative religion, the art of a debate escapes you, so how can you possibly pretend to know what I feel?

I'd appreciate if you'd leave me out of your prayers, considering I don't think much comes out of pagan utterances!

all the best

 

[Tony]

if you were banned you wouldn't be able to post this no?
you have an inability to reason, simple logic as pertains to people, comparative religion, the art of a debate escapes you, so how can you possibly pretend to know what I feel?

I'd appreciate if you'd leave me out of your prayers, considering I don't think much comes out of pagan utterances!

all the best

Peace sister, dont be wound up, our patience brings people to the beauty of Allahs grace.

 

[جوري]

PEACE BROTHER, just pray that her way is made easy. Its a forum that gets heated by its nature. May Allah make us aware of each others importance here. Peace

pls don't request prayers from kuffars akhi, especially ones this disillusioned!

 

[جوري]

Peace sister, dont be wound up, our patience brings people to the beauty of Allahs grace.

I have no patience for refractory trolls.. thus if you wish to keep a dialogue with him by all means .. when all else fails with this guy, he turns the inner sanctimony from medium to high..

 

[Tony]

pls don't request prayers from kuffars akhi, especially ones this disillusioned!

OK sister, May Allah show him mercy and open his eyes to the truth. Ameen

 

[جوري]

OK sister, May Allah show him mercy and open his eyes to the truth. Ameen

I can ditto that!

 

[Tony]

I can ditto that!

Thenonce again we win through the empowerment of our deen. Subhan Allah how easy He makes it for us. Loving Allah is so cool eh

 

[GreyKode]

Gossamer skye- I wanted to send you a pm before I was banned, but was unable. it appears I am really good at offending Muslims.

So I will just say it publically- You seem to be a wounded person very much in pain, hurt, angry, etc.

I will add you to my prayers- is there anything specific you might need prayers for?

Hopefully, I will continue to see you on the forum.

"I WILL YOU ADD YOU TO MY PRAYERS"
HA'HAAAAAAAAAAA LOL.

and he goes further
"is there anything specific"

Sis Gossamer you better not waste this offer.

"public-a-lly";D

 

[Grace Seeker]

"I WILL YOU ADD YOU TO MY PRAYERS"
HA'HAAAAAAAAAAA LOL.

and he goes further
"is there anything specific"

Sis Gossamer you better not waste this offer.

"public-a-lly";D

Actually, I think that while Follower may not be well understood, that he is sincere in wishing the best for each person here and I expect the offering to pray was equally sincere.

What Follower offered may not be received well when it is a Christain offering prayer to a Muslim, but it is exactly the way a Christian would speak to another Christian if they really were concerned for his/her welfare. Indeed, it is also the way I often speak with Musilm friends and family members with whom I have a personal relationship. They have always appreciated the offer, and frequently actually had something they wanted me to include in my prayers.

So, accept it or not, whichever one is most comfortable with. I just hope that we aren't mocking one another, no matter what faith a person might have. Both Jesus and Muhammad taught us to show more sensitivity to other people than that. To that end, I appreciate both Follower and TKTony's most recent posts in this thread for they exemplify that type of sensitivity.

 

[Follower]

Worshipping Jesus as a Christian I never picture Jesus in the human shell- goes back to Christians saying Jesus is GOD, but never GOD is Jesus.

If the people worshipping Jesus thought Him merely a man Jesus would have corrected them, actually look when the man runs up to Jesus and falls on his knees. To this man Jesus is simply a human teacher:

Mark 10
17As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. "Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
18"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone. 19You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.'"

Matthew 2:2
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Matthew 2:11And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

Matthew 8:2
And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

Matthew 9:18
While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

Matthew 14:33
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Matthew 15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

Matthew 20:20
Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him.

Matthew 28:9
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

Matthew 28:17
And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

Luke 24:52
And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

John 9:38
And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.