Domino effect

[GuestFellow]

Tunisia political turmoil inspires Jordan protesters

Share your views.

 

[Perseveranze]

Asalaamu Alaikum,

That's like 4-5 countires now... Hope this all turns out for the best, Inshallah!

 

[SafaAuditore]

The egyptian protests are getting bad as hell.
Chyeaaaa!! I really hope they get rid of Mubarek!! As long as the egyptian guy gets out, we're good =)

 

[Perseveranze]

"Egyptian Christians said they will guard the Muslims from the police while they on Friday Pray." Amazing solidarity. #Egypt #Jan25

^don't know if it's true.

Live update - http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/28/egypt-protests-live-updates

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Hope this spreads to other countries as well like Saudi and Pakistan!

 

[Perseveranze]

Asalaamu Alaikum,

Please pray for your brothers and sisters, there's alot of violence going on in Egypt atm

 

[Al-Mufarridun]

اللهُمَّ أَعِزَّ الإِسْلامَ وَالمُسْلِمِينَ، اللهُمَّ أَعِزَّ الإِسْلامَ وَالمُسْلِمِينَ،

Allahumma a'izzal-Islama wal-Muslimeen, Allahumma a'izzal-Islama wal-Muslimeen.

اللهُمَّ انْصُرْ دِينَكَ وَكِتَابَكَ وَسُنَّةَ نَبِيِّكَ وَعِبادَكَ المُوَحِّدين

Allahummansur deenaka wa kitabaka wa sunnahta nabiyyika wa ibaadakal-Muwahhideen.

 

[GuestFellow]

There have been protests in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen and in Jordan. All of them have something in common is that they are anti-corruption, dislike their own government supporting the US and dislike Israel. Other than that, there might be a conflict of interests within those countries, where people are deciding on which system of governance should be implemented.

It is good to see the people protesting against their own corrupt government but I think something bad is going to happen. I doubt anything good will come out of this. I highly doubt western countries will sit back and watch this happen throughout the Arab countries, since they can all turn hostile to Israel.

 

[kashmirshazad]

We have to realise who is behind these protests. They are not 'Islamic warriors' as the media has led us to believe, more than likely they are pro democracy candidates causing and stirring up trouble.

 

[Perseveranze]

We have to realise who is behind these protests. They are not 'Islamic warriors' as the media has led us to believe, more than likely they are pro democracy candidates causing and stirring up trouble.

Asalaamu Alaikum,

Muslim Brotherhood got involved and once that happened did the government take things more seriously. Instantly the top members of the Muslim brotherhood got arrested.

 

[GuestFellow]

We have to realise who is behind these protests. They are not 'Islamic warriors' as the media has led us to believe, more than likely they are pro democracy candidates causing and stirring up trouble.

The protester are against corruption. All of them agree upon this. That is one of the main reasons why they are protesting. There is no unified movement.

Asalaamu Alaikum,

Muslim Brotherhood got involved and once that happened did the government take things more seriously. Instantly the top members of the Muslim brotherhood got arrested.

True but there might be a possibility that some members of the public that are not interested in establishing the Caliphate or see the Muslim Brotherhood get elected. There is no one actually leading these protests I think.

I'm not sure what is going to replace these corrupt regimes if removed. That is the main problem. I don't think this is all well planned because there is no single movement.

 

[glo]

A friend of mine compared what is happening at the moment in the Middle East to the fall of Communism in the later 80's/early 90's. This too was something which had been rumbling for some time - and once one country managed to change, the others followed quite quickly.
I think people began to feel empowered and realised that the common people have the power to change history - even within oppressive political systems.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7972232.stm

 

[SlaveOfGod]

اللهُمَّ أَعِزَّ الإِسْلامَ وَالمُسْلِمِينَ، اللهُمَّ أَعِزَّ الإِسْلامَ وَالمُسْلِمِينَ،

Allahumma a'izzal-Islama wal-Muslimeen, Allahumma a'izzal-Islama wal-Muslimeen.

اللهُمَّ انْصُرْ دِينَكَ وَكِتَابَكَ وَسُنَّةَ نَبِيِّكَ وَعِبادَكَ المُوَحِّدين

Allahummansur deenaka wa kitabaka wa sunnahta nabiyyika wa ibaadakal-Muwahhideen.

Ameen.

Wow. If they attack Muslims during friday prayer, they've reached an new low in my book.

 

[titus]

True but there might be a possibility that some members of the public that are not interested in establishing the Caliphate or see the Muslim Brotherhood get elected.

The reports I have seen about Egypt show Christians involved in the protest, and one mentioned that when one man with a beard and white robes stood and started chanting he was pulled down by others and told to keep religion out of it. Also realize that the first domino to fall was Tunisia, which is one of the most secular countries in the region.

It appears to me that this is a movement intended to give the people more of a voice in their government and to rid themselves of autocratic rule. I don't much evidence that it is a religious movement.

 

[Dagless]

Stuff like this would have happened years ago if the US wasn't giving so much support to these corrupt leaders. Even today Obama was talking about their great relationship. I have no idea what the US will do now. They definitely can't afford to lose Egypt but if they do something too obvious it'll show they don't live up to democratic ideals.
I wonder what Saudi are thinking

 

[titus]

The United States is not to blame for autocratic rule in the Muslim world. Sorry.

As for the reaction of the US government it has been pretty clear. Obama has defended the rights of the protesters and his administration has said it would review the aide given to Egypt if the violence continues against the protesters. Obama has said that Mubarak must avoid violence and take "concrete steps that advance the rights" of Egyptians. He also called for Mubarak to stop blocking the internet and phone service for Egyptians.

I don't think the US government could be much clearer in their stance. Or do you expect them to do more to topple the Egyptian government?

 

[Dagless]

The United States is not to blame for autocratic rule in the Muslim world. Sorry.

Of course not, the US hasn't helped corrupt puppet dictators gain power... they've never funded said dictators with money and weapons... and they would never stand back and let the dictators wipe out any resistance. No blame whatsoever.

As for the reaction of the US government it has been pretty clear. Obama has defended the rights of the protesters and his administration has said it would review the aide given to Egypt if the violence continues against the protesters. Obama has said that Mubarak must avoid violence and take "concrete steps that advance the rights" of Egyptians. He also called for Mubarak to stop blocking the internet and phone service for Egyptians.

I don't think "reviewing" and saying "take concrete steps" is a very clear reaction. It's just saying what needs to be said. It doesn't really change anything or help either way.

I don't think the US government could be much clearer in their stance. Or do you expect them to do more to topple the Egyptian government?

They've toppled others over far less.

 

[titus]

How convenient. With comments like that I can see why it is so easy to blame the United States for everything.

If they do interfere in another countries policies then they are meddlers and deserve your hatred. If they don't interfere then that means they don't care and deserve your hatred. No matter what they do everyone can keep hating them and be happy!

That's much easier than admitting that the tyrants that run such countries are in place because the people allow it to happen. It's much simpler to have a bogeyman that you can blame everything on. I'm surprised nobody has come on to try and blame Israel for all the violence yet. Surely those filthy Jews... err Zionists have a hand in all this, right people?

I don't think "reviewing" and saying "take concrete steps" is a very clear reaction. It's just saying what needs to be said. It doesn't really change anything or help either way.

You don't think threatening the US's aide to Egypt (which is second only to Israel) is not a clear reaction? What would be clear enough for you? What exactly (if anything) could the US government do that would make you happy?

 

[Dagless]

How convenient. With comments like that I can see why it is so easy to blame the United States for everything.

If they do interfere in another countries policies then they are meddlers and deserve your hatred. If they don't interfere then that means they don't care and deserve your hatred. No matter what they do everyone can keep hating them and be happy!

That's much easier than admitting that the tyrants that run such countries are in place because the people allow it to happen. It's much simpler to have a bogeyman that you can blame everything on. I'm surprised nobody has come on to try and blame Israel for all the violence yet. Surely those filthy Jews... err Zionists have a hand in all this, right people?

I didn't think stating facts was blaming a bogeyman. The bogeyman itself has admitted doing these things in the past so I don't know what you're trying to refute :S
If they don't interfere it is a good thing. The point is that this won't happen.
As for Israel, zionism, and Jews... well you go and have your rant

 

[Al-Mufarridun]

Alsalamu Alaikum.

The striking thing, from my perspective, is the fact that "the Ummah" that has been chopped into so many pieces in the previous centuries has found itself again, and in of all places, ONLINE. The Electronic Ummah, is a force that has has no boundaries, no borders. Its this Electronic Ummah, that is, in my opinion, the last straw that will break the back of this Dark Age. "The Genie is out of the Box" as the saying goes. This Decade will be a Decade to Remember. May Allah(swt) make it a Decade that will bring with it Justice, Peace and Prosperity to the Oppressed, the Weak, and the Poor. Ameen.