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Salam Aleikum everybody, I was wondering if it is halal or haram to download from the internet? Downloading things like, movies, games, music etc..
 
I believe that would be classified as stealing if it wasn't meant to be free.
 
Greetings,

I've been reliably informed that music is haram even if you don't steal it.

Peace
 
Because it is not written in the Qu'ran that it is disallowed, my muslim friends and family listens to music without any problems, I might believe that some kind of music could be haram.. which contains curses and bad words.. but otherwise I don't think that music is haram.
 
Greetings,
Kaitoli said:
Because it is not written in the Qu'ran that it is disallowed, my muslim friends and family listens to music without any problems, I might believe that some kind of music could be haram.. which contains curses and bad words.. but otherwise I don't think that music is haram.
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It's not about your opinion, though, is it? Unless you're a scholar, of course. Then your opinion would matter.

Here is the "Evidence that music is haram".

Being a musician myself, my opinion is that there is nothing wrong with listening to or playing music at all. If you're a Muslim, though, you're not allowed to believe that.

Peace
 
It depends . . .

My country didn't accept the copyright law;DSo I guess I can download everything I want, but if they signed it think it'd be haram. . .

Anywho, if they wanted for their games, movies, music, etc. . . not to be pirated, there's hundreds of methods they can use to stop this from happening. The most simple and obvious one is hardware locks. They're cheap, easy to use and reliable.
 
Salam Aleikum

Czgibson, I didn't see that as evidence for music being haram, could you say a specific sura in the Qu'ran please?

Second.. how do you know that the authors of "MuslimWays" are scholars, teachers, mullahs or imams? It is not hard to create a website and write everything on it and to later publish it. You can search for muslim things on the web and find that different websites write different things from eachother.

Third, Is this website Shia or Sunni? Though, I know that neither Shia or Sunni disallows music. Which makes this question of interest only.

Your saying that I am not a scholar which is correct, but my opinion is not my ego, I ask around for knowledge from my brothers and family, all muslims I know listens to music. My father listens to music, he studied to become a teacher of religion.


"Allah said, what translated means, "And of mankind he who purchases idle talks to mislead (people) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah) by way of mockery, For such there will be a humiliating torment." [31:6].

How do you translate that? It doesn't say that music is haram at all. Music does not mislead. Terrorists say that music is haram, look at them, killing innocent people. Not that I am saying that you are a terrorist, just sayed that terrorists believe that music is haram. Could be a terrorist who has written the website you browsed. Terrorists "translates" the Qu'ran very very wrong. Most muslims listens to music.

31:6... this is what I read from a other source of the holy Qu'ran

"But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty."

Al-Wahidi (RadiyAllahu`anhuma), along with other scholars of Tafsir (explaining the Qur'an), said that "Idle Talk" in this Ayah is singing. The following companions gave this Tafsir: Ibn Abbas, Ibn Masud, Mujahid and Ikrimah (RadiyAllahu`anhum). Ibn Masud (RadiyAllahu`anhu) said, "By Allah, whom there is no God except Him, idle talk is singing."

Idle tales instead of Idle talks, no translation is good enough of the Qu'ran and I think it should be read only in the original language, arabic. It can be translated but as you can see, it becomes different on different authors who translates it.

I still believe that music is halal.
 
Greetings,

Look, I'm on your side with this one - I don't think the "evidence" there clearly shows music to be haram either, but I've had enough debates on this forum to know that the majority opinion among Sunni Muslim scholars is that music is haram. I've even had threads closed down for pointing out that the "evidence" is weak, and that believing music to be intrinsically wrong is an irrational position.

Trust me: you're wrong on this one. Ask any of the mods here and they'll tell you music is haram.

Peace
 
Maybe the majority of the mods in this forum thinks music is haram, I don't know because I have not been a member of this forum for a long time, just a few days, but the majority of scholars doesnt think that it is haram.

Mods means moderator, correct?

Question to mods: If the majority of the mods here thinks that music is haram, tell me, then your not listening to music, watching movies (movie tracks), watching television (usually music on series, movies etc), your not listening to radio etc. I doubt..
 
Kaitoli said:
Maybe the majority of the mods in this forum thinks music is haram, I don't know because I have not been a member of this forum for a long time, just a few days, but the majority of scholars doesnt think that it is haram.

Mods means moderator, correct?

Question to mods: If the majority of the mods here thinks that music is haram, tell me, then your not listening to music, watching movies (movie tracks), watching television (usually music on series, movies etc), your not listening to radio etc. I doubt..
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I think the majority of scholars believe it's haraam.
 
those scholars are sayin things like music is not haram unless it has bad words and all but dont matter bout the instruments... and rasulallah didnt say that...so since when have scholars been better than prophets?
 
Music is haraam. Full stop.

Argue with that, and you are arguing with rasulullaah (SAW)


WaSalaam
 
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As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

Music is 100% haraam.

The Noble Qur'an - Luqman 31:6

And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-Fire).

Hadith - Bukhari (#787) [Also related by Tabari]

Sa'id ibn Jbayr reported that Ibn 'Abbas said about the verse: "And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks" (31:6), that, "ldle talks means singing and the like."

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Isra 17:64

"And Istafiz [literally means: befool them gradually] those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and other call for Allah's disobedience)..."

Hadith - Bukhari 7:494

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks, and the use of musical instruments as lawful. And (from them), there will be some who will stay near the side of a mountain, and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and Allah will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

Wa salaam

Allah Hafiz
Sister Fatima