Dr. Zakir Naik

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^^^ i kno i never said anything i get it now kk... anyway i was checkin out some of his videos and he actually did make tons of mistakes...but ok mods can u please close this thread?
 
Everything thing he sais I believe in, his just too greate and smart to ignore. I would rather believe in him than believe in a man who has his books in front of him pointing out "prooves" disproving dr. Zakir Naik, on the other hand dr. Zakir Naik has a whole library inside of his head.

What wrong have he said, I really wanna know!

Anwarca as I thanked you on youtube, I thank you again, I've bin looking for his respond for quite a long time.

Thank you yet yet again.
 
^ yah nothing he really says is bad just SOME things he says are ..not right..not that im wit him or against him ...lets not fight here...i just have to say that on every post here.lol



p.s. aww thats so cool all u guys gots youtube accounts.lol
 
Salam 3alekum wa rahmat allah,

Zakir Naik Misconceptions About Islam !

very very very nice talk by this wise brother mashallah!!!:)

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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvHHYrdiXHE[/media]

Instead of me posting all the 24 vids i will just give the link i put the first one down so u can get a taste of it:), this is a must watch!

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zakir+naik+misconceptions+in+islam

enjoy! :)
 
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^^ aw sweet thanks brother hamada...reps...(yay i can rep again.its been a day .lol) thats cool i saw that on Peacetv the other day ago. and yah it IS a must see.lol.

:w:
 
Greetings,
ive noticed a lot of people love taking this brother out of context and attacking him behind curtains, may Allaah reward him.


The amount of things i heard, it would be funny to see people approach him with it!

I would love to have a debate with him. Despite what you may think, his arguments are incredibly weak.

Peace
 
Greetings,


I would love to have a debate with him. Despite what you may think, his arguments are incredibly weak.

Peace

my cousins says the same thing, i'd love to see you have a debate with him.


lol im not saying you'd lose, i'd just be interested in seeing the outcome, best of luck and all that eh :)
 
Greetings,

In front of an impartial audience, say 50% Muslim, 50% non-Muslim, it would be a matter of the utmost simplicity to defeat him in a debate.

He comes from an intellectual tradition where unquestioning submission to authority is the norm. Unfortunately, saying "it's written in the Qur'an, therefore it's true" does not count as a valid argument.

Let's take one of his points from a video posted earlier in the thread. He's answering the charge that Islam has a monopoly on terrorism, which is very easy to refute anyway.

He tries to show that the Qur'an utterly condemns killing by referring to surah 5 ayah 32, saying that if someone, Muslim or non-Muslim, kills any other human being, Muslim or non-Muslim, it is as though they have killed the whole human race. That's a pretty noble sentiment, but unfortunately it's not precisely what the Qur'an says. Read the verse, and not only is the point about "Muslim or non-Muslim" not mentioned, but there is an extra proviso:

Qur'an 5.32 said:
On that account: We ordained
For the Children of Israel
That if any one slew
A person - unless it be
For murder or for spreading
Mischief in the land

It would be as if he slew the whole people.
And if any one saved a life
It would be as if he saved
The life of the whole people.
(Yusuf-Ali translation. I would use a better one but unfortunately I can't get any of the searchable Qur'ans online to work. What are the chances of that? It's never happened to me before.)

The part about "unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land" makes what seemed earlier to be a noble sentiment much more equivocal, and makes it very clear how terrorists use the Qur'an to justify their actions. Whether or not someone is "spreading mischief in the land" is very often a matter of opinion: this could be why many Muslims disagree about the rightness or wrongness of terrorist actions.

Naik does mention this part as an afterthought, but only after he has completely misrepresented his own scripture in front of an applauding audience who don't seem to have even noticed.

If people think that's a good way to debate, I would recommend a strict diet of philosophy (Plato, Descartes and Russell are good places to start) to sharpen up their discriminatory faculties.

Please, people, don't fall for Naik's cod-intellectual propaganda. I thought this kind of approach had died out during the Renaissance, but, sadly, it seems it's still with us.

Peace
 
Greetings,
^ but im not zakir naik lol, no offence gibson :) but i couldnt answer for him

I know you're not him - you're far more reasonable, for one thing. :)

Please don't be taken in by him; that's all I'm saying.

Peace
 
:salamext:

It's not called 'taken in'. It's called religion. Which you wouldn't know.
 
Greetings,
:salamext:

It's not called 'taken in'. It's called religion. Which you wouldn't know.

Thank you for being patronising - it's always amusing. :)

I may be wrong, but I didn't realise that falling for Zakir Naik's weak arguments was a mandatory part of Islam.

Peace
 
:salamext:

Lol Subhaan Allaah! Brother Zakir Naik has studied Islam for years and years, and comparitive religion, and you think YOU know better than him?!!
 
Greetings,
:salamext:

Lol Subhaan Allaah! Brother Zakir Naik has studied Islam for years and years, and comparitive religion, and you think YOU know better than him?!!

You're missing the point - I'm not questioning his knowledge of Islam. I'm questioning his weak arguments. He wouldn't last five minutes in a University Philosophy department with a debating style like that.

So yes, when it comes to argumentation, I do know better than him.

Peace
 
:salamext:

I've heard a couple of his debates and I think his debating style is brilliant. (Mashaa Allaah )

Of course, you 'westeners' have our own 'style' no doubt.
 
Greetings,
:salamext:

I've heard a couple of his debates and I think his debating style is brilliant. (Mashaa Allaah )

That could be because, like him, you know very little about philosophy.

Of course, you 'westeners' have our own 'style' no doubt.

Whatever that means - you're probably right.

Peace
 

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