Family converted to Islam without me...

[Asiyah3]

Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my post. I know I got off on a little bit of a rant there; my apologies.

To "_muslim_", who posted below, I just want you to know that I was not trying to pass judgment at all on the religion of Islam. I acknowledge that I don't know much about it, but I certainly was not trying to judge it. I was only judging the peculiar actions of my family.

I'm sorry I didn't mean "judge" in that way (I just couldn't come up with the right word). I merely meant that you could try to get to know Islam more because you might start to like it yourself.

Also will you be staying here with us in the forum? (after this thread)

 

[Mohamed_Sadiq]

David,

If your family have converted to Islam what a blessing but you have no right to ignore or become fustrated with your family!

I will advice you to convert to Islam aswell and turn away from your current beliefs as I am telling you, your family know better as they have turned to the only religion which is Islam.

 

[DavidK565]

David,

If your family have converted to Islam what a blessing but you have no right to ignore or become fustrated with your family!

I will advice you to convert to Islam aswell and turn away from your current beliefs as I am telling you, your family know better as they have turned to the only religion which is Islam.

Mr. Sadiq, I appreciate your words, but I will not be converting to Islam. This is not meant to disparage Islam in any way; its a fine religion for those who choose to believe. But I live a secular lifestyle and I am very happy with it. I am not in search of anything. I think that I'm on the right path for me.

My immediate family has seemingly chosen a different path, and as others have mentioned here, it is something I need to accept and adjust to. However, that does not mean that they know better than I do; in fact I think its quite the opposite.

I'm sorry I didn't mean "judge" in that way (I just couldn't come up with the right word). I merely meant that you could try to get to know Islam more because you might start to like it yourself.

Also will you be staying here with us in the forum? (after this thread)

Yes, I would like to stay as a member of this forum on a limited basis. Everyone has been very helpful with my issue and I think I can learn a great deal here.

 

[cat eyes]

welcome to the forum. humm when you talk about forcing, do you mean somebody putting a gun to your head? this is my idea of forcing somebody, i cant think of any other type of forcing because i don't think any other type of forcing exists. :hmm:

I Just believe that they want you to revert so you can be apart of the family. you will all have the same belief and there will be no fighting or disagreements.

It will make life all the more happier.

wow mashaAllah on there reversion though


Allahuakbar ALLAHUAKBAR

 

[aadil77]

My advice to you David is that because they're family try not to get annoyed by them, just tell them to take it easy and not try to insist islam on you as it will only move you further away from it.

But at the same time observe your family, see the changes in their lives, see if their decision was a positive one. If you're still not cinvinced and don't want to take that step, please do still look into islam even if its just to gain a better understanding of your family and their new beliefs, you won't lose anything from that:thumbs_up

Peace

 

[Esther462]

Hi everyone. I'm an outsider here, but I thought I would go right to the source, since that is where my problem lies.

My family and I (were) Jewish Americans. Recently, my father, mother and younger brother took a vacation to visit the Middle East, and went to several countries along the way. I stayed behind, as I couldn't take time off from my job.

They had always been intrigued by religions in general, and Islam specifically. Apparently, they were greatly influenced by their travels and together, made a determination that they would prepare to convert to Islam and join that community. And that is what they did.

Quite frankly, I was disappointed with their decision (not to insult anyone here... really). Now, I'm apparently the lone holdout in my immediate family, and whenever I see them, I seem to be bombarded with questions about when I'm going to choose to accept Allah and when I'm going to rejoin my family. They give me books to read and pamphlets and all sorts of stuff that I'm supposed to read that will "somehow" get me to see the light and convert too.

I'm not converting; its not because I'm a religious Jew by any means, but rather because I simply do not believe strongly enough in any supernatural creation to turn my life upside down.

The reason why I'm here is: I want to know what the rules are regarding Muslims pushing their religion on others (whether this is acceptable behavior). I would at least like to know that I can tell them to leave me alone and practice their own stuff on their own time. However, i would like to find a way to do this without having my family alienate me or vice versa.

Thanks for your input.

I know how you feel apart from my situations is a little diffent. I was Christian and I coverted to Islam. My family is Christian and they keep saying stuff to get me to go back to there faith but I know I'm on the right path for me and I won't go back to Chritainty.
My advise is to repect your family's faith and in time they will repect your faith. That's what I did and we get on as happy as can be.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Hey David, welcome to the forum

I would just like to say that I was like this too when I first started practicing. It was only later on that I felt I was being too pushy towards my family, especially my brothers. They would get fed up and annoyed with me and didn't like hearing me say anything about Islam. It was just from me that they didn't like it, not that they didn't want anything to do with it. I was afraid I would only push them further away, so I changed my approach.

I personally think the best way to invite a person to Islam is through their actions. Your family is fairly new so I think you should give them the benefit of doubt. If you really feel their way is annoying, you have to tell them that. Sit and talk with them, it's the best way. At the end of the day, they only want what is good for you. They found contentment in Islam and so most likely they feel you would too

 

[DavidK565]

welcome to the forum. humm when you talk about forcing, do you mean somebody putting a gun to your head? this is my idea of forcing somebody, i cant think of any other type of forcing because i don't think any other type of forcing exists. :hmm:

I Just believe that they want you to revert so you can be apart of the family. you will all have the same belief and there will be no fighting or disagreements.

It will make life all the more happier.

wow mashaAllah on there reversion though


Allahuakbar ALLAHUAKBAR

Cat eyes, thank you for your post and for your help. There are however a couple of things to clear up.

I never said anyone was "forcing" me to do anything. They can't. I'm an adult. The issue is that I'm constantly badgered by it. Every time our family gets together they engage me in conversation about how I should convert and Islam is the true path and all of that. I just didn't like that aspect of it, but as many have pointed out here, they are enthusiastic about their new life and I have to adjust to that.

On your other point, it would seem to me that converting to Islam simply because it would be easier for my family because we would all have the same beliefs is not a good reason to convert. I can't do something like that. I don't believe what they have chosen to believe.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

"O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy."

Surah Al - Baqarah verse 208

 

[DavidK565]

"O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy."

Surah Al - Baqarah verse 208

Doesn't this passage essentially mean that those who follow Islam must do so completely and not cater to satan's desire to turn your attention from god?

With all due respect, how is this relevant? I ask because I don't know...

 

[zakirs]

Doesn't this passage essentially mean that those who follow Islam must do so completely and not cater to satan's desire to turn your attention from god?

With all due respect, how is this relevant? I ask because I don't know...

David that would be relavent because it mentions the words..Enter into Islam whole-heartedly..

The poster might have wanted to hint to you from a verse of quran that no body can force you.it is with your will alone that you can convert .

. I don't know how religious you are, lets say that you are a strong believer. You pray to god and believe that you are on the right path to salvation. But then someone comes along and tells you that you're wrong and that THEY know the "real" truth. And they tell you this over and over and over again. Sure, at first, you appreciate that they are trying to help, but you already know deep down that you know what's best for you and that you are right. And yet, you have to keep hearing that your choice in life is the wrong one. Its annoying and intrusive, but thats just my opinion

Regarding this .. just be patient they are your family and they want to see you well.And u might not search for something divine as of now when your life is going good, but there will be a time in life when (godwilling) you will search for something.Just remember their words till then.And i wish to show you this verse from quran

Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honour. And, out of kindness, lower to them the wing of humility, and say: My Lord! Bestow on them thy Mercy even as they cherished me in childhood. (17:23)

 

[Italianguy]

Be patient with your family brother. They may have reverted to Islam but guess what...your mother is still your mother, and father is still your father. They will still love you the same, as you should them.

Dude, I am a protestant with %90 percent of my family being Roman Catholic, and a couple of others in the family being ..........Muslim:shade:

It makes for interesting dinner discussions at least;D

God be with you!

 

[IceQueen~]

The problem here is wisdom in da'wah

This is an example of why one has to be extremely wise when encouraging a non-muslim to accept Islam because if you go about it the wrong way you'll end up pushing them away

As for your family David they have just come into something new and this is just their eagerness and excitement over it
without realising they are being too pushy -try talking to them about it

I'm sure if you explained to them that their being a little too pushy is actually pushing you away from what they have to say they'd understand

I hope everything goes for the best in sha Allah (God-willing)

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

David that would be relavent because it mentions the words..Enter into Islam whole-heartedly..

The poster might have wanted to hint to you from a verse of quran that no body can force you.it is with your will alone that you can convert .

JazakAllah Khayr brother! That's exactly what I was hinting.


When one chooses to follow Islam, it should be for their own gain i.e. spiritually and for God ALONE, not for anyone else. You would just be a Muslim and not following. So the verse says enter wholly and willingly.

@ David, did you miss my other post? lol

 

[DavidK565]

Hello everyone. Hope you're all doing well with the holidays...

I haven't been on here for a few months, but since I have a bit of free time, I thought I would provide an update to my situation. I know you've all been waiting on pins and needles

You will all be pleased to know that my converted family members are still enthusiastic about their change in lifestyle. They do their best to stay Halal, to pray, and all that other stuff. A part of me is happy that they have all found something about which to be enthusiastic.

Unfortunately, that initial enthusiasm hasn't worn off at all. The initial issue was that I was constantly being bombarded with talk of conversion, the Qu'ran and how I should rejoin the family. I was hoping that this would have subsided with time, but it still hasn't.

As a result, my family and I don't communicate much. It seems that we don't have anything in common anymore, which is a shame. The relationship with my brother is especially disturbing. I spoke to him just once recently, and he informed me that he broke up with his girlfriend of 7 years because, apparently, you can't have a girlfriend in Islam. I still don't get it, but whatever.

So things haven't exactly gone as planned so far. I don't know how long I should expect to wait for things to improve. I don't know what I should be doing to make things easier. I don't know if I should even bother. Hmm....

Peace.

 

[S_87]

They are you mother and father, they will push islam on you as it is their duty even more so than the average person on the street. you say youre a jew. i dunno what you believe, but im sure you belive non jews will go to hell right? well, anyone who doesnt believe in Allah as the only one worthy of worship and Muhammed peace and blessing be upon him as the messenger of Allah is doomed. can you see what burden your parents have to try and convert you to save you? dont push them off, let them speak, they arent being aggressive are they? they are only looking out for your wellbeing

and what u said about ur bro and his girlfriend, pre marital relationships are forbidden

 

[Vigno]

Hello everyone. Hope you're all doing well with the holidays...

I haven't been on here for a few months, but since I have a bit of free time, I thought I would provide an update to my situation. I know you've all been waiting on pins and needles

You will all be pleased to know that my converted family members are still enthusiastic about their change in lifestyle. They do their best to stay Halal, to pray, and all that other stuff. A part of me is happy that they have all found something about which to be enthusiastic.

Unfortunately, that initial enthusiasm hasn't worn off at all. The initial issue was that I was constantly being bombarded with talk of conversion, the Qu'ran and how I should rejoin the family. I was hoping that this would have subsided with time, but it still hasn't.

As a result, my family and I don't communicate much. It seems that we don't have anything in common anymore, which is a shame. The relationship with my brother is especially disturbing. I spoke to him just once recently, and he informed me that he broke up with his girlfriend of 7 years because, apparently, you can't have a girlfriend in Islam. I still don't get it, but whatever.

So things haven't exactly gone as planned so far. I don't know how long I should expect to wait for things to improve. I don't know what I should be doing to make things easier. I don't know if I should even bother. Hmm....

Peace.

Peace David

How about you try to listen to them sincerely? There's nothing to lose right?

 

[Amat Allah]

May Allah lead your way to the path of the endless happiness...Ameeeen

 

[aadil77]

Unfortunately, that initial enthusiasm hasn't worn off at all. The initial issue was that I was constantly being bombarded with talk of conversion, the Qu'ran and how I should rejoin the family. I was hoping that this would have subsided with time, but it still hasn't.

As a result, my family and I don't communicate much. It seems that we don't have anything in common anymore, which is a shame. The relationship with my brother is especially disturbing. I spoke to him just once recently, and he informed me that he broke up with his girlfriend of 7 years because, apparently, you can't have a girlfriend in Islam. I still don't get it, but whatever.

So things haven't exactly gone as planned so far. I don't know how long I should expect to wait for things to improve. I don't know what I should be doing to make things easier. I don't know if I should even bother. Hmm....

Peace.

hmm, your family shouldn't break up communication with you because you chose not to convert, your family ties should remain the same with them, if its them who are breaking ties then remind them of this obligation

ofcourse you still have things in common, islam might make up a big part of their life but you can still talk about whatever you used to before, you're still family

about your brother, yes its forbidden to have pre-marital relationships - pretty sure its the same in judaism? - so as a muslim he either had the choice to marry her or forget her, maybe they were unable to get married for whatever reasons?

also have you tried looking into islam since they converted? maybe showing an interest might get them to calm down on you

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/Peace

.... he informed me that he broke up with his girlfriend of 7 years because, apparently, you can't have a girlfriend in Islam. .

yes , he is right . May Allah reward him for the right decision.

If u have any questions about Islam , pl. feel free to ask. InshaAllah ( God Willing) we will try to ans.