First martyr in Germany

[Muezzin]

Right, so you've totally missed such behaviour before. Do you have any idea how unbelieveable that sounds?

Yes, your strawman is less credible than Evel Knievel riding a motorbike into space.

My theory is that it has just not bothered you before enough to notice it, and that's probably because the victim wasn't a muslim.

My theory is you should probably stop with the borderline personal comments. If you'd like to talk in Private Messages about such things, that's fine.

Although, if you want to see my personal take on these kinds of things, you need look no further than the Announcements I made in this section - this and this.

As for the victim not being Muslim... I have to laugh at that assertion. Take a look at many of the comments from Muslim members over in the thread about the Romanians in Ireland being driven violently from their homes by thugs. Here it is.

Curiously, you personally have not posted there. Shall I read far too much into it and theorise you don't care for people considered foreign in a given country? Or shall I take the more likely route and say you probably just never read it, because other news stories had pushed it off the page etc.

Isn't that your implication? I protest too much? So that would lead to I shouldn't protest when I see something wrong?

Of course not.

I know, I agree. So why didn't you speak before, for example when this case was a sure sign of how West and Islam cannot be friends?

Check your Private Messages.

Or how about at the article of which the hole purpose was to point finger at the racist ignoring Germans.

Why does pointing out the real point here start at the non-muslim?

You're reading far too much into this. I hadn't posted on the thread awhile, hadn't really checked back, and when I did, yours was the latest post I saw and decided to reply to.

However, feel free to conspiracy theorise. It makes me feel special.

Because it has been one of the main themes and often the carrying force in several threads in here and actually elsewhere aswell. It is one of the main arguements from muslims when speaking about violent incidents perpetrated by muslims. You shouldn't generalise hole group over few incidents.

And generalising posts have been removed.

Is it to be expected? Probably yes. Should it be accepted or tolerated silently?

Am I saying it should?

Don't mistake my grumpiness for a call for censorship.

I just like to point out here maybe you should have read every reply in this thread to find out why I feel like protesting instead of starting with me.

Yep.

Fair enough. To a certain point I agree, however, as I've been trying to say, such generalisations towards muslims have been a red herring here before.

Again, generalising posts have been removed, but if some remain, please report them.

 

[Suomipoika]

My theory is you should probably stop with the borderline personal comments. If you'd like to talk in Private Messages about such things, that's fine.

Who was it who said how holllow I sound? Isn't that kind of borderline personal comment? I've been just continuing that line of conversation. But very well, I'll reply to you in Private Messages.

Again, generalising posts have been removed, but if some remain, please report them.

Only because I whined about them like little 5 year old. Not because of the sheer mass of people who usually condemn generalisations over one case.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^Whenever there is an incident where the victim is a non Muslim, we do hold sympathy. The question is, do you even notice?

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/Peace

"Veiled Martyr - Is It Racism or...?"


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[Muezzin]

But all in all I guess they want Muslims out of Europe.

If by ‘they’ you mean ‘crazy extremist skinheads’ and not ‘all German people’, then yeah, that goes without saying.

 

[Muezzin]

Who was it who said how holllow I sound? Isn't that kind of borderline personal comment?

Sort of. It was clumsily worded on my part, so I apologise.

Only because I whined about them like little 5 year old. Not because of the sheer mass of people who usually condemn generalisations over one case.

The report post function reduces the need to complain like a ‘little 5 year old’ in public by approximately 90%.

Well, I just pulled that statistic out of thin air, but you get the point.