cateyes: but where in the hadiths is it written, where in the only qur'an is it written. is there anything even written from the early scholars? like i just want clear and understandable evidence thats as we all know times are changing Allah knows, its easy to find out who the father is these days with the technolegy we have today! look a scholar has many different types of views on everything concerning shariah law.. you will find loads of scholars will says different things about a certain law which might not be right and he is just making from his own head what he think is right.
like a man, a woman has needs now if her husband becomes disabled and can't fufil her sexual needs, what is she mean't do? she loves him and don't want to leave him but she is not happy and she wants another husband which will make up for the rest of her needs. and i am dead sure that there is women like that in the world..
i am just saying in some cases it should be allowed!
about the mingling of different sexes sure obviously the man has to take permission from his first wife to get married to another woman so therefore it can be controled!
i believe things should be made halal in some cases. we are all humans no matter if we are man or woman.. it bothers me when a woman comes to a scholar and asks for his advice on sensitive issue's such as this and he tells her divorce your brain dead husband and marry another man to have your kids how would that be islamicly right?when she loves her first husband dearly and wants to take care of him, wants to give him affection but yet she is longing for children. and like mabe a man might have other problems in the bed area.
i have never been the type to shy away from things like this and i have always been open like some women don't talk about this because they are to afraid men will call them horrible names i won't mention what they might say but i am speaking as a woman and a HUMAN with needs. i hate the way some men believe and talk as if we have no needs, like they are basically calling us something else other then human. yes its true brothers women do think about having more than one husband for many a reason but at the same time she fears Allah and want to do everything right to not hurt anybody with divorce as divorce is hated by Allah swt. a human can love more then one person. if yous believe aids will spread by a woman sleeping with more then one man sure it would be the very same thing for a man to sleep with loads of women aids spreads also in this case if you don't get checked come on!!
Originally Posted by cat eyes
i would like polygamy to be both ways.. finding out who the father is can be easily solved these days so wouldn't that make it halal in these times
exactly! medically proven by whom? all of you's are all making statements with no prove or evidence.
if you see in my first posts, i did also ask for you to give me the surah verse where its stated its haraam for a woman to have more then one husband thats all.. and i also asked for hadith evidence..
because i could not find myself.. what is the actual real laws of the shariah anyway? because i find alot of there laws are corrupted and made up by ignorant leaders and you will not find much of there laws stated in the hadiths either.
a woman also has a high sex drive also and no it dosen't really go both ways
i would like a more clear clarification on it because this verse could mean another thing totally different from what we are actually discussing.. any man would be forbidden to a woman anyway even if she is not married because that would be zina.
can i also just say that the holy qur'an is the only book which says marry only one woman..
so please anybody who says a brother can have loads of women and its not disgusting then think again.. some brothers and sisters seem to think its not a big thing here but it is!
like a man, a woman has needs now if her husband becomes disabled and can't fufil her sexual needs, what is she mean't do? she loves him and don't want to leave him but she is not happy and she wants another husband which will make up for the rest of her needs. and i am dead sure that there is women like that in the world..
^^^First to this... There are also paedophiles and rapists in the world. Do we allow them to do what they will because they have needs?
May Allah keep you rightly guided. Ameen. It seems you have been visited by the shaytaan sister. imsad
OK well for the sake of the argument,let's say you have multiple husbands and all live seperately. But in Islam, a man has the right to fulfil his desires when he needs. How can you give him those rights when you are with another? Shariah states that a woman cannot refuse her husband without a legitimate reason. Nowhere in the Qur'an and Sunnah, will you find, the wife being with another husband a legitimate excuse. The absence of this being a legal excuse proves there is no allowance for a muslim woman to have more than one husband.
How would you or any woman with more than one husband be able to be with all the children when you want, the children or husband want? If you have two children by two husband a year apart, who would care for the child you're not with. Given how much children need their mothers at an early age, not to mention laters, the whole supportive dynamic between family members would be corrupted. Your view that polygamy should be allowed for women would be nothing but a recipe for disaster on a personal level and to the muslim society.
Another thing. The Quran states that men are the maintainers of women because they provide for them from their wealth.
Allah SWT says in the Quran:
'Men are in charge of women by (right of) what (qualities) Allah has given one over the other.So good women are obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded.....' Quran: an-Nisa:34
This verse shows that a woman is expected to be obedient to her husband. A woman cannot obey two husbands at once as to do that she will have to disobey the other and incur sin on herself and violate one's rights. Islam helps us to avoid matters which lead us to sin and to harm other and clearly polygamy for woman does the opposite to what is liked/permitted. Again this proves that a woman can only marry one man at one time. Two Kings cannot rule a country at the same time. And I don't think you need me to tell you why.
A wife is also responsible for guarding the husband's honour (herself and his name) and property in his absence. How will she keep her honour and his name clean, if she is leaving his home to have sexual relations with another man?
Allah subhanwa ta'ala also tells men to force his wife to give up what is prohibited.
"And enjoin prayer (which keeps one away from sins) upon your family (and people) be steadfast therein.." Quran: Taha: 132)
Again this verse shows that a husband is the head of the house. Two men cannot be head of house at the same time. Furthermore, a woman cannot leave the house without her husband's permission. How then can a wife leave him against his will to go to another man's house? If polygamy was allowed for women then this right refusing her permission to go out would deny the other husband his rights. Islam gives every person his/her due rights. Hence this proves polygamy for women is not from Islam.
The obedience to the husband even supercedes the parents rights to be obeyed. To illustrate..
It is narrated that, the paternal aunt of Husayn, came to the Prophet (saw) and he asked her: "Do you have a husband?" When she replied in the affirmative, he (saw) said to her, "See your status with him (i.e. whether you try to satisfy him or not), for he is your Paradise and your fire (i.e. your entering Paradise or Hell-fire can be dependant on the way you treat him."
How many times will you have to disappoint one husband to please another?
Also, Allah says in the Quran to men with more than one wife, "...And live with them in kindness...." (Quran An-Nisa :19)
and
"...So do not incline completely (toward one) and leave another hanging.." (Quran An-Nisa: 129)
In Surah An Nisa it is clearly stated to men how they should treat their wives if they have more than one.
Since men are a degree above women, why are there no verses telling women to be equal and good, if not better to their husbands?
Also looking at it from another perspective.. if a woman has more than one husband, she possibly cannot live with them at the same time and hence cannot fulfil their needs. So each husband getting half (if that) of what he wants in a marriage has the right to find another wife. That's fair right? But that wife also has another husband and can't give him enough time either. So he finds another wife....... and another if need be. But wait, didn't you say it's disgusting if a man has more than one wife? So how does your system of polygamy for women work? Double standards? POlygamy for women might appeal to you personally, but it will never benefit you or anyone else or especially the muslim society but it will destroy it.
Finally, you should know that the Prophet (saw) brought the Complete and Final message to mankind, and any disagreement to that on your part suggests you think you know better than Allah and His Rasul about how we should live our lives. Your argument that nowhere in the Quran and sunnah is it prohibited for a woman to marry more than one man is silly to say the least. I could say the Quran doesn't explicitly prohibit you from eating a number of disgusting things so why don't you eat them? See how silly it seems when the same logic is returned.
There is no ayah, hadith, or any account in islamic history relating to a muslim woman being allowed more than one husband at one time and to change what you want would mean changing a large part of Islamic teachings and creating new ones. Na udhu billah! :heated:
I pray Allah protects you from disobedience to Him and His Rasul. Ameen.
they would be all fighting over me anyway haha
