Gay Mosque To Open In Paris

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its by some --- named scott. When I read that anglo-saxon name, I stopped reading further. Dont trust every revert, there are moles amongst us. We need to squish squish squish em.

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GuestFellow said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Homosexuali...ABN0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354409080&sr=8-1

^ Has anyone read this book?
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[h=3]Product Description[/h] Many Islamic authorities claim that homosexuality is categorically forbidden, but the reality is much less clear-cut. There are no verses in the Qur'an that unambiguously condemn homosexuals, and there are some that suggest they can be tolerated in Muslim communities. In addition, reports from Hadith that condemn homosexual and transgender persons are of dubious authenticity. This pioneering work is the first to tackle this complex and controversial issue from a religious perspective. Scott Kugle critically engages with scripture, law, and tradition to examine the foundations for prevailing attitudes towards homosexuality in Islam. Arguing that Muslims can reconcile themselves with the inevitable diversity in society without compromising their principles, Kugle makes a forceful case for a renewed Islam that accepts all followers, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity.

[h=3]About the Author[/h] Scott Kugle is the first Muslim to publish widely on the issue of homosexuality and Islam. An independent research scholar in Islamic studies, he has previously held positions at Duke University, the University of Cape Town, and Swarthmore College.
 
glo said:
Is it better for gay Muslims (who undoubtedly exist) to have a place where they can worship and pray freely (if - as the article suggests - they don't always feel welcome in other masjids)?
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Is it better – or even ok – for gay Christians, who undoubtly exist, to do the same in their churches? I thought Christianity forbade homosexuality in all its forms? Well Islam is no different and I nor my religion see any reason for a compromise. They want to build a mosque and recite the words of the One who has said this:

And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: 'Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in all of mankind and jinn?' (Qur'an 7:80)

The one who is gay and Muslim has no idea what he's even following. These people probably come out with rubbish like "God won't judge us" when God has condemned their behavour in His own words!
 
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Trying to reinterpret the Quran and the Hadith to say Homosexuality is allowed to fit a political agenda is wrong it is no diffrent from the Christians and Jews who try to reinterpret their Bible and Texts to say Homosexuality is not a sin a crime and evil. 50 to 70 years ago in the Western World no Christian or Jew accepted Homosexuality. It was not untill the 1970's that Christians and Jews in the West starting to accept Homosexuality even than it was only a small number of Christians and Jews. All 3 Religions that believe in the God of Abraham the God of Israel the God of Jacob none of these Religions accept Homosexuality in fact look at this verse below.

Lev.20

[13] If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=407964
 
Homosexuality is Anti Human Anti Children and Anti Procreation.

1. Homosexuality injures the fabric of society, especially children.
A societal acceptance of same sex relationships gives vulnerable children the impression that same sex relationships are good, moral and healthy. Not only does the Bible condemn such behavior, but medical professionals have affirmed that these kinds of sexual relationships are unhealthy. A society that accepts immoral relationships cause children to stumble into immorality. Jesus Christ said that “if anyone causes one of these little one’s to stumble, (sin) it would be better if he put a mill stone around his neck and throw himself into the sea.” Matthew 18:6 Acceptance of these unnatural acts sets a society up for gender and sexual confusion, which brings about widespread immorality, which tears the family down.


2. Homosexuality is anti procreation.
Logically speaking, if everyone’s sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone’s sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race.

3. Homosexuality does not offer the stability of a traditional family.
Children need the stability of a traditional family. Children need a real male Father and a female Mother for proper and healthy development. Naturally speaking, there is the necessity of each of the male and female contributions to a child’s life. (It has already been proven that boys without fathers end up in jail and practice destructive behaviors a great deal more than those who have fathers.) The vast majority of the public knows instinctively that it would be better if both parents are present in a child’s life. Once concealed research shows that a child who is brought up in a homosexual home may be more likely to engage in homosexuality. But is it loving to expose children to the predominantly damaging lifestyle of homosexuality? If homosexuality can be learned, what does that say about the argument that people are born that way?

http://unsettledchristianity.com/2008/07/15-reasons-why-homosexuality-is-wrong-and-hurts-society/
 
Endymion said:
107. And as for those who put up a mosque by way of harming and disbelief, and to disunite the believers, and as an outpost for those who warred against Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ) aforetime, they will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good. Allah bears witness that they are certainly liars.

9. Surah At-Taubah (The Repentance)
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I was thinking of exactly the same thing. This ayah is in reference to Masjid Al-Dirar (The Mosque of Harm) which was burnt down by te Messenger :saws1:

I wonder if the same ruling applies here.
 
I believe Homosexuality is desired by Satan the Devil. Satan is the Enemy of Humanity. Satan knows he can try to destroy Humanity by trying to influence Humans to be Gay or Homosexual. Don't let Satan influence you. God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.
 
truthseeker63 said:
If all Humans were Homosexuals than the Human Race would go Extinct.
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Why would all humans become homosexuals?

Perhaps in Mohammed's time we had a shortage of humans so those who don't reproduce were doing a disservice. But today, we have no underpopulation problem. If anything its the opposite.
 
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Back to being serious.

I think Muslims need to show more consistency in their attitudes towards sin.
 
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Surely being homosexual and muslim is contradiction - and confusing situation to themselves and others too. But being something and acting by that kind of habit is still very different matter.

I wouldn´t say about anyone who is muslim and who is not; I prefer leave that matter to Allah only.

If I would like to make a sin (what ever kind of) but don´t do it, does it make me sinner?
 
sister harb said:
If I would like to make a sin (what ever kind of) but don´t do it, does it make me sinner?
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I'll put it this way. There are some clients at work I would love to kill and drain the life out of them. But I don't. Does that make me a murderer? :statisfie
 
You are right sister. This seems to be endless discussion. Better go to looking for dreams to my bed.

:exhausted
 
Many Liberals I have met claim Homosexuality is good and Nature's way to have population control or stop the world population from getting too big since Homosexuality is used to stop the population from growing I will say it is wrong and should never be promoted. The Woman below in this video gives her views on Homosexuality she is correct.

what muslims want 4/7

Channel 4's documentary. Dispatches Monday 07 August 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSfpzTtOtx8



Alex Jones Says Gay People are Created by the Government

Alex Jones Says Gay People are Created by the Government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2w2TRxSLxw
 
Alex jones voice ... ugh. I'd rather listen to frogs croaking.
 
Pygoscelis said:
Why would all humans become homosexuals?

Perhaps in Mohammed's time we had a shortage of humans so those who don't reproduce were doing a disservice. But today, we have no underpopulation problem. If anything its the opposite.
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I assume you haven't learnt how reproduction works?
 
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