Haram wedding attendence.

[guyabano]

.... because you lost

So, this what you think its all about? Loose and win? I don't like to loose, neither is it important here to win.
I just gain some new info in this thread which makes me feel upset.
Muslims set the priority to religion instead of family. And nobody should deny this one now here because it has been said not to attend his brothers wedding, supposed to be the happiest day in his brother's life. And he wonders, why his family is against islam. Well this should be reason enough !

And for the videos, when I saw that, I had a good chuckle . Guess what, on all the videos, I didn't see only one smiling face !! Horrible, as if everybody is about to cry.
Well, enjoy !

Sorry, but I couldn't keep my promise not to post anymore.

 

[Malaikah]

Muslims set the priority to religion instead of family.

You will find that people of other religions act the same way.

There is no obedience to the creation that is disobedience to the Creator.

 

[guyabano]

You will find that people of other religions act the same way.

There is no obedience to the creation that is disobedience to the Creator.

No !

 

[iwuvaziaf]

Hi there..

I hope you dont mind but if i may step in and clarify some things..

Firstly! it goes against us to have big wedding functions where money has been spent endlessly.. rather if we can spare that money, we should spend in the way of the Allah! by giving charity, helping poor people.. obviously charity starts with family so you can start with supporting your brother, sister immediate family and then if u still have spare cash u give it outside of family.. (charity never stops for a muslim)

Ayah261 “ The parable of those who spend their substance in the way of Allah is that of a grain of corn: it grows seven ears, and each ear has a hundred grain. Allah gives manifold increase to whom He pleases: and Allah cares for all and He knows all things.”

So, i hope u can see that spending in the way of Allah, not only gives us reward in the hereafter but the little we do spend doubles itself (InshaAllah). You wont disagree with me that enourmous amounts of money is spent on wedding ceremonies even if it is a day function.. unlike the pakistani version which lasts 3 days even over 2 week period, little group gatherings every other night.... Anyway, forget that! just an example of how much gets spent.. ppl feel obligated to spend, whether they have money or not..how? borrowing, getting loans, using the over-draft.. yes! now, you know that happens too because almost all weddings have the bride+groom outfits, a venue, additional costs (flowers, food, decoration, service) after party, the travel, getting groomed and honeymoon... its a long struggle to return to normal state. (not forgetting putting a strain on the marriage.. depending on how individuals cope - bad way to start a marriage isnt it?)

Now wot would u do if you die in between that period.. of borrowing and returning... ur funeral prayers cant be sed for u if you are in debt... but what if all ur other family members r in debt too.. wot a sad state!

Now if a family member of yours does something so awful, like do a strip show at ur local club.. would u carry on going there? would u stop them? u know by going there u encourage them... anyway! it was an extreme example but i couldnt think of something that might discourage u.. modesty/simplicity must by maintained at all times.. be it through weddings or funerals..

I'm not saying going to ur non-muslim brother's wedding is bad.. but it shows encouragement.. it may be the happiest day of his life but rather be there through the rest of his happy years then to see one happy day and the rest burdened - him being a slave to money!

There are threads which can clarify this for u.. and i am not the best at explaining but i'm trying.. i hope u can see it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuYbP07ltn4

and yes, this is not the best of the videos.. but this is the nikah ceremonies where our imam pronouces them husband and wife.. I think through english wedding when the couple's vows r being read.. no1 is doing the bungy-jumping.. its a time to purely think and ponder over what a marriage is... i.e. a refreshment for the married ones and a reminder of the responsibility/commitment for the unmarried one. We make du'a (for the couple).. could anything better be done?

I'm sorry if i offended u..

Peace out!

 

[guyabano]

Hi there..

I hope you dont mind but if i may step in and clarify some things..

Firstly! it goes against us to have big wedding functions where money has been spent endlessly.. rather if we can spare that money, we should spend in the way of the Allah! by giving charity, helping poor people.. obviously charity starts with family so you can start with supporting your brother, sister immediate family and then if u still have spare cash u give it outside of family.. (charity never stops for a muslim)



So, i hope u can see that spending in the way of Allah, not only gives us reward in the hereafter but the little we do spend doubles itself (InshaAllah). You wont disagree with me that enourmous amounts of money is spent on wedding ceremonies even if it is a day function.. unlike the pakistani version which lasts 3 days even over 2 week period, little group gatherings every other night.... Anyway, forget that! just an example of how much gets spent.. ppl feel obligated to spend, whether they have money or not..how? borrowing, getting loans, using the over-draft.. yes! now, you know that happens too because almost all weddings have the bride+groom outfits, a venue, additional costs (flowers, food, decoration, service) after party, the travel, getting groomed and honeymoon... its a long struggle to return to normal state. (not forgetting putting a strain on the marriage.. depending on how individuals cope - bad way to start a marriage isnt it?)

Now wot would u do if you die in between that period.. of borrowing and returning... ur funeral prayers cant be sed for u if you are in debt... but what if all ur other family members r in debt too.. wot a sad state!

Now if a family member of yours does something so awful, like do a strip show at ur local club.. would u carry on going there? would u stop them? u know by going there u encourage them... anyway! it was an extreme example but i couldnt think of something that might discourage u.. modesty/simplicity must by maintained at all times.. be it through weddings or funerals..

I'm not saying going to ur non-muslim brother's wedding is bad.. but it shows encouragement.. it may be the happiest day of his life but rather be there through the rest of his happy years then to see one happy day and the rest burdened - him being a slave to money!

There are threads which can clarify this for u.. and i am not the best at explaining but i'm trying.. i hope u can see it!



and yes, this is not the best of the videos.. but this is the nikah ceremonies where our imam pronouces them husband and wife.. I think through english wedding when the couple's vows r being read.. no1 is doing the bungy-jumping.. its a time to purely think and ponder over what a marriage is... i.e. a refreshment for the married ones and a reminder of the responsibility/commitment for the unmarried one. We make du'a (for the couple).. could anything better be done?

I'm sorry if i offended u..

Peace out!

Thanks for the clarifing and good explanation.

Now what would then people think about this. 2 Girls dance while men stuff money in their shirts.See the video here:[
VIDEO LINK REMOVED. DO NOT POST SUCH INAPPROPRIATE CONTEXT!] Might contain offensive pictures. So decide wisely, if you like to watch it or not

Is that also common on muslim weddings?

 

[united]

i think it doesnt matter whether the wedding if of muslims or non-muslims. if its unislamic you dont go. ive walked out of many a so called "muslim" weddings and my dad refused to attend his brothers wedding because it was unislamic (btw his brother is a muslim and he was marrying another muslim).

 

[Malaikah]

Now what would then people think about this. 2 Girls dance while men stuff money in their shirts.See the video here[VIDEO LINK REMOVED. DO NOT POST SUCH INAPPROPRIATE CONTEXT!]iraqi wedding party ? Might contain offensive pictures. So decide wisely, if you like to watch it or not

Is that also common on muslim weddings?

I hope it isn't. :exhausted

Not all Muslim weddings follow Islamic guidelines... :rollseyes

 

[iwuvaziaf]

Astaghfirullah!

Is that also common on muslim weddings?

common in a "muslim" wedding, corrupted by the media, following indian (hindu) tradition = yes
common in a muslim wedding (real muslim wedding) = no

There are people who call themselves muslims and follow certain traditions which they enjoy! Corruption amongst muslim nations is commonly known. It is because they do not fear Allah.. they say they believe but they dont because if they did then.. they would accept islam past the declaration "Ashhadu anna la ilaaha illa Allah, wa ashhadu anna Muhammadin(SAW) rasul Allah" I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, I bear witness that Muhammed is the Messenger of Allah.

If you click here, it may clarify some of the ideas you picked up about muslim wedding ceremonies from the website, which you posted previously.

Narrated Anas: When 'Abdur-Rahman came to us, the Prophet established a bond of brotherhood between him and Sa'd bin Ar-Rabi'. Once the Prophet said, "As you (O 'Abdur-Rahman) have married, give a wedding banquet even if with one sheep." '"
[Bukhari]

please note, this is from the husband's side... and it is the sunnah of the Prophet to annouce the marriage after nikah, once consummated (am abit confused on this part) by giving a feast.. u may say this is a contradiction of what i said about thinking of poor when spending but all luxuries are avoided this way because

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) also said:
'The worst of the feasts are those marriage feasts to which the rich are invited and the poor are left out". (Mishkat)

"...and he who refuses to accept an invitation to a marriage feast, verily disobeys Allah and His Prophet". (Ahmad & Abu Dawood)

Muslims set the priority to religion instead of family. And nobody should deny this one..

Taken from islamonline.net: -

Question - As-salamu `alaykum. I am new Muslim and I am living with my Christian family in a non-Muslim society. My family is celebrating Christmas and I want to ask if it is wrong for me to attend their celebration.

Answer - Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

You are allowed to partake of their feasts and celebrations so long as you stay away from their specific religious rituals, and so long as you are clear in your mind that Christmas has nothing to do with the original teaching of Jesus, peace be upon him.

While remaining steadfast to your beliefs about Jesus, you are allowed to join them in their feasts in order to reciprocate kindness with kindness.

Islam is not giving priority to religion over family.. it is balancing both! no1 should be punished for what their family believes just like i am accountable for my actions and only mine.. unless my actions r influencing others to behave in an unislamic way.. especially if it is something which i am aware of and do not change...

Prophet Muahmmad (SAW) said: “Whoever among you sees an evil act, let him change it with his hand (by taking action); if he cannot, then with his tongue (by speaking out); and if he cannot, then with his heart (by at least hating it and regarding it as evil) – but that is the weakest of faith.” Narrated by Muslim, 48.

leme not get off topic... i hope my post clarifies a few things about what you saw.. and please, do not believe everything you see.. Some people do not represent religion in the best way.

Peace out..