Harmony between the Bible and the Qur'an

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5:17 In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."

5:72 They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.

5:73 They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.

Someone has probably already posted these ayats from the Holy Quran, but they pretty much show that Islam is totally against the idea of trinity/shirk. And christians believe in that trinity.
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3:19 The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account.
 
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I don't know whether this is related to the topic, but I had noticed that there are many Qul words in Holy Quran. Could anyone care to tell me, why is that always Qul (say), being included in the Ayats? Say in Surah Al-Ikhlas, Surah Al-Falaq, and Surah An-Naas? Is there any specific intention by the person who "write" this book? Thank you in advance.
 
malayloveislam said:
I don't know whether this is related to the topic, but I had noticed that there are many Qul words in Holy Quran. Could anyone care to tell me, why is that always Qul (say), being included in the Ayats? Say in Surah Al-Ikhlas, Surah Al-Falaq, and Surah An-Naas? Is there any specific intention by the person who "write" this book? Thank you in advance.
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Allah Knows Best akhi
 
3. Passages With “Qul”
More than 200 passages in the Qur’an open with the word “qul” (say), which is an instruction to the Prophet Muhammad to address the words following this introduction to his audience in a particular situation, such as in reply to a question that has been raised, or as an assertion of a matter of belief, or announcement of a legal ruling.
Examples of this follow:
[Say: Nothing will happen to us except what God has decreed for us: He is our Patron.] (At-Tawbah 9:51)
[Say: O People of the Scripture! Do ye blame us for aught else than that we believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed aforetime, and because most of you are evil-livers?] (Al-Ma’idah 5:59)
[They ask thee concerning (things taken as) spoils of war. Say: (Such) spoils are at the disposal of God and the Messenger: so fear God and adjust the matter of your difference: obey God and His Messenger, if ye do believe.] (Al-Anfal 8:1)


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Umar^111 said:
Well see no matter what way you look at it as long as you say Jesus is God there cant be harmony at all that goes against the main belief in islam which is Tawheed the oneness of our Lord
this explains God
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ - اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ -

لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ - وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَّهُ كُفُواً أَحَدٌQuran 112 1-4
(1. Say: "He is Allah") (2. "One".) (3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten".) (4. "And there is non comparable to Him.'')" Quran 112 1 - 4

الصَّمَدُ (As-Samad) is One Who does not give birth, nor was He born, because there is nothing that is born except that it will die, and there is nothing that dies except that it leaves behind inheritance, and indeed Allah does not die and He does not leave behind any inheritance.
Oneness Of GOD (Tawhid)

This is the most important Islamic belief. It implies that everything in existence originates from the one and only Creator, who is also the Sustainer and the sole Source of Guidance. This belief should govern all aspects of human life. Recognition of this fundamental truth results in a unified view of existence that rejects any divisions of life into the religious and the secular. Allah is the sole source of Power and Authority and therefore entitled to worship and obedience from mankind. There is no scope for any partnership with the Creator. Tawhid teaches man that Allah is not born, nor is anyone born of Him. He has no son or daughter. Human beings, like the rest of creation, are His subjects.
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notice how the verse states. 'qul hwa Allah Ahad' not 'qul hwa Allah wahid'-- at first glance it might just appear, God is one, but Ahad, actually means 'indivisible' -- it is a very decisive verse, I doubt many people pay attention to it.. people think wahid and Ahad are interchangeable.. they are in fact not-- to me that ends all alleged harmony between the Quran and the bible, especially for those who allege the Quran copies from the bible..


and Allah swt knows best

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Greetings and peace be with you all

Christians cannot live in harmony with other Christians, look at all our denominations, Muslims cannot live in harmony, look at their differences.

Yet we are all created by the same God, we should at least love each other despite all our differences.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
 
Thank you, I really appreciate answers from sister and brother. Actually I had came across bible passages saying that God will kill that person (assigned messenger) who speak his own word and hiding His revelation. Do you think prophet Muhammad (SAW) dare doing such thing if being threatened like that by the Supreme Power? Even we as civilians too will be more than fear hearing that awful threat! I am sorry I can't remember the passage, I think from OT if I am not mistaken. If any brother and sister have it please kindly put it here for me and other to see it ourselves. Thank you and peace.
 
AntiKarateKid said:
Why don't you read the Quran (preferably tafsirs to understand the context of verses) and Hadith before commenting on what Islam is supposed to mean?
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Tafsirs are the commentary that is often contained within the text of the Qu'ran [but are printed within brackets like this], is that correct?
 
Dear Eric H,

Indeed we respect people of different faith. Western people and non-Muslims actually do not understand it and through imperialism had made everybody looking down on each other. In my country, Muslim had been respecting non-Muslim more than they respect each other. Even after that non-Muslim immigrants had made many claimants which I think would never been tolerated by Christian country like Italy or Spain although they lived in Muslim administrated country. Non-Muslim immigrants build temples, churches, etc freely in our country and without any permit. Muslim prayer room being closed and build underground in shopping complexes because respecting non-Muslim in my country.
 
Grenville said:
Dear Imam:

Let us forget about Islamic and Christian tradition for a moment and simply concentrate on the teachings of the Bible and the Qur’an.
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Dear,Greenville

I promise you I will lay all the traditions aside and concentrate on the teachings of the Bible and the Qur’an, just give me a hand and refer to the proof text within both the Bible and the Quran.

Grenville said:
The Bible identifies God as the God worshipped by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Qur’an identifies God as the God worshipped by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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Does the New Testament identifies Jesus as as the God worshiped by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. ?

Does the Quran identifies Jesus as as the God worshiped by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. ?


IF we claim for a harmony then the answer ,for both the questions ,has to be either Yes(and proof text), or No(and proof text) ..

In other word The Christian believe of Jesus as God is Biblical or christian traditions?
The Muslim believe that Jesus isn't God Quranic or muslim traditions?

I hope your next post to be with documentations not notifications otherwise I will be disappointed.

peace
 
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Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you all

Christians cannot live in harmony with other Christians, look at all our denominations, Muslims cannot live in harmony, look at their differences.

Yet we are all created by the same God, we should at least love each other despite all our differences.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
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:) How can i love those who make Allah (God) somthing He is not people who try to belittle Allah And about friends Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look whom you befriend" (Abu Dawud and At-Tirmidhi)
Respect yes i respect you as a person and hope you will be guided and see the truth like our respect your way of life ( Christian) i cant like it nor respect it but you are still alive there is a chance you see the truth so pray to God and ask for guidance
 
Greetings and peace be with you Umar^111;
respect your way of life ( Christian) i cant like it nor respect it but you are still alive there is a chance you see the truth so pray to God and ask for guidance
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I know you have my best intentions at heart, but I am being drawn towards greater interfaith friendship and understanding, because we are all created by the same God, and the same God hears all our prayers.

I have a great respect for Islam, but it does not speak to me with the power that Christianity has. God is answering prayers in my life through Jesus in ways that convince me Christianity is the truth.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
 
see if you read what you wrote Eric you said God is answering prayers in my life through Jesus right there do you see the problem you are makeing 2 Gods or if not that a mediator to get to God which one?
 
See in islam we deal start with God no in between just me and My Lord Allah not Muhammad peace be upon him not the pope preist imam or shaekh . i pray to God none other and to give credit to someone else is not right in your case Jesus
 
Other studies recently concluded that when christianity was introduced into roman polytheism, they were slowly integrated into one another, so that christianity also became polytheistic in nature. Hence the 3 in 1 god, and the vengeful god, and all the immorality and ludity in the bible, both by god himself and his apostles (wal'iyaadu billah). Much like roman/greek mythology of those so called gods' immorality and ludity and veangefulness.

So the bible and the quran are in harmony like a liar is in harmony with the honest. Like a roach is in harmony with a cat. And It goes on...
 
I have been conducting an experiment over the past decade. I have a Bible and a Quran side by side on a shelf in my living room. I am waiting for them to spontaneously combust. But thus far nothing has happened.

Thus I think I have proven that the Bible and the Quran can co-exist in perfect harmony.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Umar^111;
if you read what you wrote Eric you said God is answering prayers in my life through Jesus
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I can only say that I believe in the power of Jesus answering my prayers, beyond that I have no understanding. Here is a passage from John 14.

9Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. 12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
 
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