Harry Potter Haram?!

[IbnAbdulHakim]

and now we leave the rest to the scholars, lets all :X

 

[vpb]

and now we leave the rest to the scholars, lets all

scholars have already cleared up this issue, but it's the problem between us trying to accept it ;D

 

[Nerd]

Still I really wonder!!! Does the type of Magic and spells shown on Harry Potter work in real life?

 

[mariam.]

actually, the first time I hear this info (that Harry potter Haram) .. I hear it from christian woman ( she is a caller in One of the bible camps).

and I don't know If she is rightful or not ... anyway Allah knows best

peace

 

[The Ruler]

ok , let's make it simple,

just imagine, even someone would approach Muhammed saws, or even one of the sahabas, and tell them, watch this movie or read the book, and at the end tell me what do u think of it? is it good for a muslim?

what do u think the response would be? just be honest

wouldn't that apply to a LOT of things that we do today?... yet we let those pass *sigh*

Still I really wonder!!! Does the type of Magic and spells shown on Harry Potter work in real life?

abracadabra alakazam! Oh my good Lord! A frog just appeared!


juuuust kidding =D

 

[vpb]

wouldn't that apply to a LOT of things that we do today?... yet we let those pass *sigh*

lollll. ;D we can't make things halal haram by using such things. but what I wanted to show is that, just imaging how would Prophet saws respond to a movie which contains the MAGIC principle , creatures that don't exist etc. ??? when we know his character and what he preached.
but it's not something to use for defining wether it is halal or haram. I just wanted to show that the character of a muslim is not impressed by such things.

 

[The Ruler]

but it's not something to use for defining wether it is halal or haram.

in which case, it is irrelevant to the question asked.

 

[vpb]

in which case, it is irrelevant to the question asked.

it seems that you are replying based on reading just the first post.
I didn't intend with the above examples to prove wether it is haram or not, bc I can't do it like that, and I wouldn't want to, cuz I'm not a scholar, but I just wanted to show that it doesn't fit with muslim's character. There many things which by common sense you can see that it doesn't fit with muslim's character, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's haram.

It is with the behavior of the muslim to not drink water while eating food, but it doesn't mean that it is haram now to drink water while eating food.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

i agree with all of VPB's points,


anyone who says "if your gonna say that then do that" , subhanAllah are these people discouraging the recommendations of scholars? it reminds me of freshies who say, go jummah and read quran but dont keep a beard.

oh come on! if you discourage descourage all, if you encourage then encourage all. NO i am NOT saying act upon all, do we look like angels? no but the more we encourage inshaAllah the more we feel inclined to act upon it ourselves...

i hope i made sense..

 

[vpb]

anyone who says "if your gonna say that then do that" , subhanAllah are these people discouraging the recommendations of scholars? it reminds me of freshies who say, go jummah and read quran but dont keep a beard.

yeahh, I wonder why the ummah is in such a state.

oh come on! if you discourage descourage all, if you encourage then encourage all. NO i am NOT saying act upon all, do we look like angels? no but the more we encourage inshaAllah the more we feel inclined to act upon it ourselves...

I mean we are not as Muhammed saws or sahabas, our iman is way lower than theirs. But at least a muslim should know that it's not good to do such things.

u know if a smoker says to me "I know smoking is bad, but I'm trying to quit", I understand , but when someone says "no smoking is not bad", then that is dangerous. At least muslims should acknowledge what is good and bad for muslim's character. I'm not saying that we should act 100% on it, cuz we will make mistakes, we are not perfect, but as Muhammed saws said, try to be near perfection. I can't pretend that I use the time exactly as a muslim should but at least accept the fact that something is bad, so that we may teach our kids , so they can grow up not liking these bad things.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

u know if a smoker says to me "I know smoking is bad, but I'm trying to quit", I understand , but when someone says "no smoking is not bad", then that is dangerous. At least muslims should acknowledge what is good and bad for muslim's character. I'm not saying that we should act 100% on it, cuz we will make mistakes, we are not perfect, but as Muhammed saws said, try to be near perfection. I can't pretend that I use the time exactly as a muslim should but at least accept the fact that something is bad, so that we may teach our kids , so they can grow up not liking these bad things.

mashaAllah, spot on bro

 

[The Ruler]

i get what you mean. But then telling someone to do what you don't do,

oh come on! if you discourage descourage all, if you encourage then encourage all. NO i am NOT saying act upon all

wouldn't that make you a hypocrite?

but that's off-topic.

I understand what you meant... when you said:

It is with the behavior of the muslim to not drink water while eating food, but it doesn't mean that it is haram now to drink water while eating food.

but the thing is, it doesn't say whether harry potter is haraam or not. In this case, the answer is ambiguous. right?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

I came across something on Islamqa:

Islam does not forbid leisure or having fun in permissible ways. The basic rule concerning these games is that they are permissible so long as they do not get in the way of obligatory duties such as establishing prayer [i.e., praying properly and on time] and honouring one’s parents, and so long as they do not include anything that is haraam. There are, however, many haraam elements in these games, such as the following:

• Games which depict wars between the people of this world (“good guys”) and people from the sky (“bad guys”), with all its implications of accusations against Allaah, may He be glorified, or the noble angels.
  
• Games which involve sanctifying the cross or passing over or by it to gain strength, to bring one back to life or the give the player extra “lives” and so on. Also, games which are used for designing birthday cards as in Christian culture are also forbidden.
  
• Games which approve of witchcraft/magic, and which glorify witches/magicians/sorcerers, etc.
  
• Games which are based on hatred of Islam and Muslims, like the game in which a player gets 100 points if he hits Makkah, 50 points if he hits Baghdaad, and so on.
  
• Games that glorify the kuffaar and show pride in belonging to them, like games in which if a player chooses an army belonging to a kaafir state he becomes strong, and if he chooses an army belonging to an Arab state he becomes weak. Also, games which teach a child to admire kaafir sports clubs and the names of kaafir players.
  
• Games that include depictions of nudity, and some games that allow the winner to see a pornographic picture; games that corrupt morals, such as games where the idea is to run away with a girlfriend from the bad guys or a dragon.
  
• Games based on ideas of gambling.
  
• Music and other things that are known to be forbidden in Islam.
  
• Physical harm, such as damage to the eyes and nervous system; harmful effects of game sounds on the ears. Modern studies have shown that these games may be addictive and harmful to the nervous system, as well as causing stress and nervous tension in children.
  
• Making children get used to violence and criminality, and teaching them to take killing and murder lightly, as in the famous “Doom” game.
  
• Corrupting children’s sense of reality by teaching them about a world of illusions and impossible things, such as coming back from the dead, supernatural powers that do not really exist, images of space aliens, and so on.

We have gone into details about some of the ideological dangers and things that are prohibited by Islam because many fathers and mothers do not pay attention to these things, and they bring these games for their children and let them play with them.

The same could also be applied to books, right? Harry potter clearly falls in to the bold and underlined part. Allahu A'lam.

12.This is not a Fiqh discussion board. Prolonged threads arguing over Fatwas and the details of Islamic law will be closed. Avoid asking questions that require a Scholar or Shaykh, as there is no one on the board qualified to answer your questions. Please use other knowledgeable means such as a scholar, Imam or knowledgeable person in your area or provide sources.

A lot of people seem to be speaking without knowledge, therefore;

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