He prevented her marriage, and this was his reward

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Interesting read indeed. I did not her dua though. I thought she was going to make dua for the father but I could also understand how she feels.
 
sad story
n yeh i understand how the women feels. but no matter what she shouldnt have said a dua like this and i agree with (righteouslady) on what should the women say by dua
 
It is a sad story and it is a reality. In case you missed it, she said "you denied me the delicacy of marriage". The man was obviously interested in duniya and wanted a wealthy man with lots of money and other worldly goods and therefore he kept rejecting good pious people that came for her hand. He maybe her father (parent) but he denied her what was her right, he was a bad wali, and he oppressed her this way. Biggest dream any girl have is to get married, have her own family and kids and what not. He denied her that blessing with his greed of the duniya. I don't see why you lots keep saying she should've made a dua against him or i would never or this or that. The fact of the matter is, you are not her nor are you in that situation to question her, and what you say not is pointless because you yourself have no idea what you will say or do IF you were in her place.

So rather then pretend we are all experts and slice and dice this story 100 different ways, why don't we be wise and learn a lesson from this. I believe that is why the imams in their khutbah told this story, for others to heed and learn a lesson. Don't oppress your daughters nor deny them their rights out of your own greed.

Allahu alim
 
It is a sad story and it is a reality. In case you missed it, she said "you denied me the delicacy of marriage". The man was obviously interested in duniya and wanted a wealthy man with lots of money and other worldly goods and therefore he kept rejecting good pious people that came for her hand. He maybe her father (parent) but he denied her what was her right, he was a bad wali, and he oppressed her this way. Biggest dream any girl have is to get married, have her own family and kids and what not. He denied her that blessing with his greed of the duniya. I don't see why you lots keep saying she should've made a dua against him or i would never or this or that. The fact of the matter is, you are not her nor are you in that situation to question her, and what you say not is pointless because you yourself have no idea what you will say or do IF you were in her place.

So rather then pretend we are all experts and slice and dice this story 100 different ways, why don't we be wise and learn a lesson from this. I believe that is why the imams in their khutbah told this story, for others to heed and learn a lesson. Don't oppress your daughters nor deny them their rights out of your own greed.

Allahu alim

I agree with u brother.

I saw my own elder sister. She uses to cry every midnight silently. I feelt so sad for her. She and my parent's desire level were too high... By the mercy of Allah she was married at the age of 30. No one can't understand how pain one can feel when she/he was not in the same situation.

May Allah help us to understand and follow straight path and make our desire level simple. amen
 
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You think I'm a fierce Saudi-hater, lol ! I am not.
lol...and you think im a fiece suadi lover...im not :p:D

InshaAllah this is now cleared.
inshallah...:sunny:

sad story
n yeh i understand how the women feels. but no matter what she shouldnt have said a dua like this and i agree with (righteouslady) on what should the women say by dua
i think were all forgetting the point of the story (including myself), which is, beware of the duaa of the oppressed. :sunny:

subhan Allah, I heard this story before
jazaki allah khair sis for sharing
no probs.
 
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jazakAllah khair brom islamirama i agree

that was pure oppression, and mashaAllah she sounds pious for having sabr through it. may Allah grant her jannah (if the story is true).


Ameenn
 
Does anyone know wat the Imaam had to say regarding this? I mean this is a real big burden on the father too...maybe he felt he was doing the best thing possible for his daughter?
 
I guess we don't know the full story from either the daughter's side nor the father's side, so we can't really judge fairly.

But still.... wow.:skeleton:
 
Does anyone know wat the Imaam had to say regarding this? I mean this is a real big burden on the father too...maybe he felt he was doing the best thing possible for his daughter?

How can preventing the woman from marrying, to the extent that she reachs the age of FOURTY years be best for her??
 
Biggest dream any girl have is to get married, have her own family and kids and what not.
Any girl? Biggest? Nope.


I liked the post in a way, although the message saying "don't judge, you ain't them", you're judging the father being "greedy" and and "bad wali", and his "obvious interest in dunya". We all have "obvious" interest in dunya by doing various things, but not limited to it only, in the outside maybe it might look that way for many, but it ain't true.

Oh, islamirama can't read my post. Ah well.


He might just have been confused, extremly protective and whatnot. And she might not even have said that dua exactly word for word. :ooh:

But I still stand by my previous opinion.
 
I don't get it why she made that aweful dua against her dad tho:(.
She might not have gotten a husband, maybe it was due to Allahs decree.
I know it's was wrong for him to do wat he did, but it feels so wrong. I Guess maybe he use to mistreat her too, so she learned to hate him due to the evil he showed her?

Sad story!
 
But her own father. Taking care of her all her life... SubhanAllah we cannot get everything in this life, marriage was not her kismet, I don't understand what brought her to say such a dua...

We don't know the whole story of course, it could be that he never made her feel loved, neglected her feelings all her life.. Maybe though, he thought for her best and was sure to find a righteous man who is also rich, to give her the life she is used to? But if this is not the case, then I don't know..

Urgh, this story made me feel ill.

Sometimes we hear stories about parents who raise their kids well but abuse them, maybe he abused her, didn't show her any love? Allahu Allam. u know the whole wat goes around comes around, if u don't show a dog mercy, he will bite u n that. Though sometimes some people are just a certain way without having anything to do wit their upbringing.

I feel the same, it was a scary dua, but we still don't know wat really went on.
 
^ And you know, ain't that what I agreed on there, in my post? See, you should read my post a lil bit clearer, try to see the big picture on what is said.

I stand by my opinion that if nothing worse than being greedy from his side was done, the dua was not appropriate. But I also agree and believe there are things we don't know.
 
^ And you know, ain't that what I agreed on there, in my post? See, you should read my post a lil bit clearer, try to see the big picture on what is said.

I stand by my opinion that if nothing worse than being greedy from his side was done, the dua was not appropriate. But I also agree and believe there are things we don't know.

Chill sis no need to get all Huffy wit me. I was just sharing my input.

I agree wit the rest.
 
Great, we understand each other. I just didn't want an misunderstanding, that's all. :)
 
:sl: I agree we don't know the whole story and we don't know how this girl felt, or what her life was like. To utter such a bud-dua though it sounds like she was bitter towards her father...............imsad Story..........:w:
But her own father. Taking care of her all her life... SubhanAllah we cannot get everything in this life, marriage was not her kismet, I don't understand what brought her to say such a dua...

We don't know the whole story of course, it could be that he never made her feel loved, neglected her feelings all her life.. Maybe though, he thought for her best and was sure to find a righteous man who is also rich, to give her the life she is used to? But if this is not the case, then I don't know..

Urgh, this story made me feel ill.
 
It's freaky how I seem to agree with what Al-Zaara says, but I gotta agree with ye on this point. Regardless of what the father did, how could the daughter utter such a duah?
I know we rebel against our parents on a regular basis (well I do anyway) but that's like in little things or what not. But to utter such a du'ah?
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:sl: Sis every parent wants THE best for their children.......... A mother/father cannot change calamities that their children will suffer..........

When my sis died she died in my mums lap.......... my mum still weeps and says if only she could have told the maut ka farishta to go back

As a parent i know i want the best for my daughter and will try, but the rest is her fate/kismet. Maybe the father was protecting his child, but i guess what i am trying to say is that no matter how hard we try to protect them........ what will be will be and parents cannot physically change that. No-one can.:):w:
I]QUOTE=Ebtisweetsam;925539]Does anyone know wat the Imaam had to say regarding this? I mean this is a real big burden on the father too...maybe he felt he was doing the best thing possible for his daughter?[/QUOTE]
 
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