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the ostrich egg is long but not wide. where as the world is wide n not as long. where is your proof that the quran states all of these things? galaxies? expansion? about the moon being a reflector of the sun? etc
 
and what about evolution? wheres the ostrich quote? and any info on solar system?
 
THE LIGHT OF THE MOON IS REFLECTED LIGHT

It was believed by earlier civilizations that the moon emanates its own light.

Science now tells us that the light of the moon is reflected light. However this fact was mentioned in the Qur’aan 1,400 years ago in the following verse:.



“Blessed is He Who made Constellations in the skies, And placed therein a Lamp And a Moon giving light.” [Al-Qur’aan 25:61]


The Arabic word for the sun in the Qur’aan, is shams. It is referred to as siraaj, which means a ‘torch’ or as wahhaaj which means ‘a blazing lamp’ or as diya which means ‘shining glory’.

All three descriptions are appropriate to the sun, since it generates intense heat and light by its internal combustion.



The Arabic word for the moon is qamar and it is described in the Qur’aan as muneer, which is a body that gives nur i.e. light.


Again, the Qur’aanic description matches perfectly with the true nature of the moon, which does not give off light itself and is an inert body that reflects the light of the sun.


Not once in the Qur’aan, is the moon mentioned as siraaj, wahhaaj or diya or the sun as nur or muneer. This implies that the Qur’aan recognizes the difference between the nature of sunlight and moonlight.







We don't believe in an evolution theory like some atheists do. We believe Adam was the first man, and Hawwa (peace be upon her) was his wife, created by Allaah Almighty.




“And the earth, moreover, Hath He made egg shaped.” 2 [Al-Qur’aan
79:30]

The Arabic word for egg here is dahaha, which means an ostrich-egg.

The shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth.

Thus the Qur’aan correctly describes the shape of the earth, though the prevalent notion when the Qur’aan was revealed was that the earth is flat.


The shape you described above describes an ostrich egg exactly. :)
 
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Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."

It ses this in the quran? i dont understand how you can reach the setting place of the sun?
 
ultimate truth said:
Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."

It ses this in the quran? i dont understand how you can reach the setting place of the sun?
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when you quote, please quote the exact verse number etc so we may read please :)
 
30:
Muhsin Khan: And after that He spread the earth;

31:
Muhsin Khan: And brought forth therefrom its water and its pasture

79:30

i cant find no refrence to an egg??

Blessed is He Who made Constellations in the skies, And placed therein a Lamp And a Moon giving light.” [Al-Qur’aan 25:61]

The lamp isnt placed in the sky though? and the moon doesnt give light. it reflects it??

61:
Muhsin Khan: Blessed be He Who has placed in the heaven big stars, and has placed therein a great lamp (sun), and a moon giving light.

here is the translation i found for it???


i am sorry but alot of these quotes seem adapted to suit your purpose.

you said about adam being the first man. does this mean that he had to have intercourse with his daughter or mother with son to continue humanity?? and how does this explain black people, brown people, and white people?
 
brother the links that fi-sabillilaah poster, i assure you they answer all these questions. Please watch it, it would take very long for me to watch it for you and extract it. However if you like i will be willing to do even that.

:peace: :)


PS: i am not offended at all
 
would be grateful if you could extract them. as well as answer the part to adam please. thanks
 
Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."
18:86
 
ultimate truth said:
would be grateful if you could extract them. as well as answer the part to adam please. thanks
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ok give me a week inshaAllah, i will have to go through three hours of lectures and extract the necessary parts.


Please dont leave by then :p
 
ultimate truth said:
Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."
18:86
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when you look over the horizon at the beach what do you see, does it not appear as though the sun is slowly diving into the see? at that time the sea looked muddy and black.


i am not a scholar or anything, but that is what i think it might mean, i will research on the tafseer, till then plz wait
 
Hi UT. :)


I think you're checking surah kahf [18]
http://quranicrealm.com/viewverses.php?q=18


The surah i quoted about the egg was in surah naazi'at. [79] - http://quranicrealm.com/viewverses.php?q=79&langs=264


It's within its tafsir/explanation, a translation can't cover every single verse in detail. Plus we don't accept any translation as the Qur'an, but the Qur'an can only be classed as the Qur'an if it is in the arabic language.



The part which you quote about the setting part of the sun is simple. Why do we call it 'sunset' or 'sunrise' in english if we scientifically know that it isn't correct? Its only used as a figure of speech, yet even the english language uses it.



The final part which you say about Adam (peace be upon him) is that he had a wife, which Allaah created from his (Adam's) rib. [If you object to that, realise that Allaah can create anything - and cloning nowadays is used by using similar cells.] From these two they had children/offspring and life of humans carried on forward like that.


more info:
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=255&ln=eng&txt=Adam children marry




Also remember that as time progresses the people may move to different lands so their color can change, and their is also the idea of gene mutation - where the child may be different (i.e both parents may be brown haired, brown eyed - but due to gene mutation - their child has blue eyes and blond hair etc.

More info on gene mutation can be viewed here insha'Allaah:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation


Allaah Almighty knows best.



Peace.
 
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jazakAllah khair fi-sabillilaah, you saved three hours of my life :p
 
Fi_Sabilillah said:




Thats an ostrich egg brother. :)



Peace.
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see that? you can get everything on this forum! even moderators that lay eggs.....is that not miraculous? i am not young and i have never seen a picture of an oistrich egg - another first here.....
;D :giggling: :happy:
 
Re: HELP!judgement of disabled?

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It's a taboo subject to tackle i guess. In Sikhism one isn't supposed to think negatively of anyone. Be they good or bad! - Disabled people are the perfect examples of reincarnation (not meant as an insult) Only the Lord God knows what we have done no human can. - That does not mean we can ridicule the disabled, as this is against Gods wishes. The Guru's embraced people who were insane and were dieseased (sp) Jesus did so too, and Mohammed. Let us not get the pitchforks out over such a subject. If anyone can offer a better explanation please do so. :)

This shows us humans that all humankind are within the will of the Lord. He does as he wishes. And is accountable to none!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh
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SSA,
yes - i think you're right. that sikhism doesn't have this problem with karma - maybe because of the culture it grew out of? i think this negative/distorted view of it - when it can turn into blaming the victim is more common in east asia.
i also think sikhism, like islam, christianity and judaism has the concept of charity whereas i think this is lacking in "eastern religions". maybe somebody who knows can tell us....
there are many things that are good in sikhism, i would agree.
personally, i like the fact that, like judaism and islam, it is monotheistic.
 
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

sikhism is also monotheistic. the whole Guru Granth sahib ji is based around one term, ik oa(n)kaar: One Universal Creator God

here is the first text of the Guru Granth Sahib ji

ik oa(n)kaar sath naam karathaa purakh nirabho niravair akaal moorath ajoonee saibha(n) gur prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. The Name Is Truth. Creative Being Personified. No Fear. No Hatred. Image Of The Undying, Beyond Birth, Self-Existent. By Guru's Grace ~



] jpu ]

|| jap ||

Chant And Meditate:



Awid scu jugwid scu ]

aadh sach jugaadh sach ||

True In The Primal Beginning. True Throughout The Ages.



hY BI scu nwnk hosI BI scu ]1]

hai bhee sach naanak hosee bhee sach ||1||

True Here And Now. O Nanak, Forever And Ever True. ||1||
 
you boast monotheism and yet you say by guru's grace? Isnt that like treating the guru as your God?
 
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