he's not a dhimmi

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M.I.A. said:
Well.. Could you give us an example of the jizya rule being enforced anywhere in the world today..

So we can better understand how to answer.

As a westerner all I have for comparison is the tax laws.. Although they are always open to abuses and concessions.
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Sadly, no country follows Islamic laws and those who agree with the countries laws have indeed done kufr and have left the religion of Allah.
 
noraina said:
We are all Muslims, striving to please Allah SWT Alhamdulillah. I feel I have many improvements to make with myself, but I kindly ask you not to call me a liar - because nothing I have said is a lie, and if I have made a mistake, then there is no need to declare it in public.

That hadith I mentioned about the Prophet (pbuh) visiting his Jewish neighbour's son. Following the visit, that son became a Muslim. I do not think he would have converted if the Prophet had not shown mercy and kindness to him.

I don't like arguing with my brother in Islam, so I'll leave it at that.

May Allah guide us all.
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I haven't called you a liar to insult your misguidance but to show you that what you believe in a specific Islamic matter is wrong. Why are we so hostile when it comes to advice? It's clear that they are the enemies of Allah and that we should only socialize with them when it comes to dawah.

As Muslims we should follow Qur'an, hadith and the salaf. My beliefs have no contradiction with the Qur'an and sunnah. What you follow in the current Islamic matter is based upon your own emotions. Sadly, that is not Islam and the Islam most ''Muslims'' follow isn't the correct Islam the Prophet Muhammad saw had followed.

I'd like to end off by saying we should follow Islamic rulings if it's an Islamic forum. I don't see why it's considered wrong to follow your own religion and to implement harsh laws against the enemies of Allah. Would you want to stand in front of Allah and be asked why you haven't forbidden evil and enjoined good? My only purpose is to argue and to prove the forums wrong is to show your rulings are too moderate. Make it strict and compassionate. May Allah guide us to the absolute truth.

It is my duty as a Muslim to warn you and to show you that what you're doing is wrong. If you believe my 'teaching' is wrong, please educate me. If you believe what you say is the truth, then explain your point of view. If not, you are a liar and the message I've given with authentic hadith, quranic verses and explanations is indeed the truth.

Not claiming that this is my knowledge but as Muslims we have to be aware of our own religion before we go spitting out mouths and thinking it's all about peace.

May Allah guide us
 
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Umar Ibn Farooq said:
Sadly, no country follows Islamic laws and those who agree with the countries laws have indeed done kufr and have left the religion of Allah.
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...and yet my moral compass points only towards fear of Allah swt.

Strange days where winning is sinning.

...you have to put me six feet under before I get anything apparently.. By then I probably won't even want it.
 
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M.I.A. said:
...and yet my moral compass points only towards fear of Allah swt.
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I don't understand what you're trying to say. If you want to prove something to me, say it clear. No need to cause useless arguments. I'm only here to advice my brothers and sisters. Not here to throw hot metal rock on their luxury.
 
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najimuddin said:
There will be no personal attacks in this forum. If this ocurrs, available measures will be taken to stop this.
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You have to realize I'm not some extremist Muslim. People tend to forget their own teachings. I'm only here to remind those who believe. To the rest, May Allah deal with them
 
...ah.. I guess we overlook all the favours of Allah swt upon us..

I hope the hot metal rock can wait.


I do not resent the luxury of others.. I only need a fair chance to prove my worth.
 
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noraina said:
Kuffar-pleasing parrots?

Besides that, the last thing I will say is that the above points you have taken out of context, brother. I read through the replies in full and they all have specific conditions. We can respect those who are of a different faith, in fact we are encouraged to treat them kindly. I don't understand what has been happening on this forum you are concerned about. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the perfect example of respect and religious tolerance - he visited the child of a Jewish neighbour who was unwell, this is in al-Bukhari.

Islam is not a religion of hate, but of mercy.

And the proof you have given me is insufficient to believe in your point, so I suppose the feeling is mutual.

BarakAllahu feek.
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Umar Ibn Farooq said:
“O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islamic Monotheism, this Qur’aan, and Muhammad), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allaah your Lord” [al-Mumtahanah 60:1]

So how can it be appropriate for a Muslim to keep company with the enemy of Allaah and his enemy, and make friends with him?

How can he be certain that he will not start to think of their ways as good? Many Muslims have fallen into kufr and heresy and have apostatized from Islam because of keeping company with the kuffaar and living in their countries. Some of them have become Jews and some have become Christians, and some have embraced atheistic philosophies.

We ask Allaah to make us steadfast in following His religion.
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Umar Ibn Farooq said:
Allaah has forbidden the believers to take the kaafireen (disbelievers) as friends, and He has issued a stern warning against doing that.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Awliyaa’ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Awliyaa’ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Awliyaa’), then surely, he is one of them. Verily, Allaah guides not those people who are the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers and unjust)”

[al-Maa’idah 5:51]

Tafsir: Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: In this verse Allaah tells us that whoever takes the Jews and Christians as friends is one of them because of his taking them as friends. Elsewhere Allaah states that taking them as friends incurs the wrath of Allaah and His eternal punishment, and that if the one who takes them as friends was a true believer he would not have taken them as friends. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“You see many of them taking the disbelievers as their Awliyaa’ (protectors and helpers). Evil indeed is that which their ownselves have sent forward before them; for that (reason) Allaah’s Wrath fell upon them, and in torment they will abide.

81. And had they believed in Allaah, and in the Prophet (Muhammad) and in what has been revealed to him, never would they have taken them (the disbelievers) as Awliyaa’ (protectors and helpers); but many of them are the Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)” [al-Maa’idah 5:80-81]
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I've given you proof. I don't see no disapproval of it and even if you did, it would contradict the Qur'an and the sunnah of the Prophet (SAW)

This is indeed the truth. May Allah guide you, ukhti.
 
Greetings and peace be with you BlackFlags;and welcome to the forum,

There are limits for that. If anyone oppresses the Muslims, we must retaliate.
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I would hope I have never oppressed any Muslim, and I would ask forgiveness if I have offended any of you.

In the spirit of praying to 'One God'

Eric
 
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Greetings and peace be with you Umar Ibn Farooq;

I would've accepted it if he payed Islamic taxes or was under an alliance.
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If I lived in a Muslim country, then I would be happy to pay the tax, however, I live in the UK. and Muslims pay the same tax as Christians here.

As I have said to you before, I have a profound respect for Muslims, especially those on this forum, they have been very kind and helpful over the last eleven years.

May Allah bless all of you and may he guide us
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May Allah bless you also,

Eric
 
Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you BlackFlags;and welcome to the forum,



I would hope I have never oppressed any Muslim, and I would ask forgiveness if I have offended any of you.

In the spirit of praying to 'One god'

Eric
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That is our life. Not our hobby.
 
Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you BlackFlags;and welcome to the forum,



I would hope I have never oppressed any Muslim, and I would ask forgiveness if I have offended any of you.

In the spirit of praying to 'One god'

Eric
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"Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly." (5:82)
 
Greetings and peace be with you all,

Thank you for many of the kind comments. I would not like to be the cause of division amongst you, so if my being here causes problems, then please say, and I will leave.

Blessings.

Eric
 
Being members of Islamic Board, all non-Muslims here are protected by IslamicBoard's rules and regulations. Nobody is allowed to hurt them unjustly.

Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. [Al-Mumtahinah 8]
 
Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you all,

Thank you for many of the kind comments. I would not like to be the cause of division amongst you, so if my being here causes problems, then please say, and I will leave.

Blessings.

Eric
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Don't do

I heard u intend to leave us , don’t do..
U tend to have another love ,another friend, don’t do..

Don’t steal us from us and dont go far places
Oh! moon, the universe is overwhelmed for the sake of u

U are are overwhelminh us and going now , don’t do..
Oh! person, ur rank is between existence and absence

How u can leaving this existence, don’t do…
If u turn ur face to diffrent direction, moon will be totally dark

U intend to destroy house of moon, don’t do…
Our lips will be dry, if u are in difficulty

Now, u are making our eyes wet, don’t do..
If u can not handle with lovers

Why u are surprising when u see real love, don’t do
Ohh, the person who is holding heaven and hell on ur hands

Ur are turning our heaven to hell, don’t do…
If u are poison in our sugar cup, it doesnt harm us

But u are trying to make all sugar poisionus with absence, don’t do..

from Rumi :)
 
Thank you for your kind words. And yes, may we all establish true Tawheed in our hearts.
 
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