Hittings and beating in the madrasas

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~SilverOrchid~ said:
I am so against the treatment that still goes on in mosques that I have decided to teach my daughter myself. inshAllah. she is three now and has learnt so much from my husband and I, through love not beatings. inshAllah she will go to a teacher when she's a little older but it wont be for hours every day. Just a little each week to make sure what Im teaching her is correct inshAllah.

I have recently heard more stories from the masjid, and it has really put me off.
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Hmmm when i was learning i never saw any girls get hit......usually just the boys because as usual we'd misbehave though a little slap here and there using either a cooper pipe or a coat hanger on the palm of your hand is really nothing it stings for a bit but you get over it, ain't gonna do you much harm, your parents could do a lot worse........that was just my experience but these days most teacher have left those ways behind now.

I personally think a little hit here and there is okey though there is a limit to it....a teacher literally cannot full blast cane you till you get bruises in those instances its definitely not okey.
 
S<Chowdhury said:
Hmmm when i was learning i never saw any girls get hit......usually just the boys because as usual we'd misbehave though a little slap here and there using either a cooper pipe or a coat hanger on the palm of your hand is really nothing it stings for a bit but you get over it, ain't gonna do you much harm, your parents could do a lot worse........that was just my experience but these days most teacher have left those ways behind now.

I personally think a little hit here and there is okey though there is a limit to it....a teacher literally cannot full blast cane you till you get bruises in those instances its definitely not okey.
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The basic bit that people are missing is that hitting kids is a crime today in the UK.The assaulters face JAIL.
It dosnt matter what faith the school is. None are exempt.
 
barney said:
The basic bit that people are missing is that hitting kids is a crime today in the UK.The assaulters face JAIL.
It dosnt matter what faith the school is. None are exempt.
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if your parents are aware that your teacher does hit you.....and i said no bruises just a little smack on the palm of your hand there is really no harm done. Anyway the law in the UK seems to wrap every kid in bubble wrap/red tape ( I study law only A-level though).... a gd slap once in a while would do them good.
Also hitting children is not illegal if you use minimal force leaving no bruises or scars. But any punishment which causes visible bruising, grazes, scratches, minor swellings or cuts can face action
 
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Salaam,

Hitting children in the maddrasha (mosque lesson) is a fantastic way to bring up a child as they will be able to understand what they are doing is wrong. For instance if a child constanlty interupts or misbehaves in lesson the best way to discipline them is hitting them however it better to hit younger children from the ages of 6-14. Also if the child does not recite what they are told they also must be hit but with sincerity this will make them afraid of being hit next time and will learn their lesson for the next lesson this a sufficient way of teaching a child to memorise the holy quran.

So hitting a child in madrassah is acceptable as it will benefit them! and we are not talking about physical abuse such as knocking the teeth out!! Just a simple hit with a stick on the hand or foot!!
 
~SilverOrchid~ said:
I am so against the treatment that still goes on in mosques that I have decided to teach my daughter myself. inshAllah. she is three now and has learnt so much from my husband and I, through love not beatings. inshAllah she will go to a teacher when she's a little older but it wont be for hours every day. Just a little each week to make sure what Im teaching her is correct inshAllah.

I have recently heard more stories from the masjid, and it has really put me off.
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Sister don't be put off the mosque it is the best place for your child to experience their deen and will also help them to socialise with other children trust me, don't listen to those people that tell you those stupid remarks of education in the mosque. Also mansha allah for teaching your daughter as many parent don't do that and also consider taking your child to madrassah at a young age and also have good contact with the teacher.
 
S<Chowdhury said:
if your parents are aware that your teacher does hit you.....and i said no bruises just a little smack on the palm of your hand there is really no harm done. Anyway the law in the UK seems to wrap every kid in bubble wrap/red tape ( I study law only A-level though).... a gd slap once in a while would do them good.
Also hitting children is not illegal if you use minimal force leaving no bruises or scars. But any punishment which causes visible bruising, grazes, scratches, minor swellings or cuts can face action
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It dosnt matter what your own personal opinions are on it. it remains the law.
Hitting using minimum force is only a defence in court if it is in self defence.
Getting a repertition wrong isnt self defence.
These schools are acting criminally. Over in KSA or Iran or whereever, fine. Different more barbaric laws, so thats morally a problem but not legally.

Here you cant smack kids in schools- Period. Do it and you face jail.
 
Mohamed_Sadiq said:
Salaam,

Hitting children in the maddrasha (mosque lesson) is a fantastic way to bring up a child as they will be able to understand what they are doing is wrong. For instance if a child constanlty interupts or misbehaves in lesson the best way to discipline them is hitting them however it better to hit younger children from the ages of 6-14. Also if the child does not recite what they are told they also must be hit but with sincerity this will make them afraid of being hit next time and will learn their lesson for the next lesson this a sufficient way of teaching a child to memorise the holy quran.

So hitting a child in madrassah is acceptable as it will benefit them! and we are not talking about physical abuse such as knocking the teeth out!! Just a simple hit with a stick on the hand or foot!!
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Wish there was some sort of language to express the stupidity and barbarism in such sentiments+o(+o(+o(+o(
 
Mohamed_Sadiq said:
the best way to discipline them is hitting them however it better to hit younger children from the ages of 6-14.
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I disagree with the age you put there. Bro a 6 year-old isn't mature enough to understand. It's just a kid. A slight hit to a ten year old I'd comprehend though even then he should be adviced repeatedly before resorting to that method. Additionally It shouldn't be a way to punish rather only as a way to convey a message that their behavior is wrong.
 
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_muslim_ said:
I disagree with the age you put there. Bro a 6 year-old isn't mature enough to understand. It's just a kid. A slight hit to a ten year old I'd comprehend though even then he should be adviced repeatedly before resorting to that method. Additionally It shouldn't be a way to punish rather only as a way to convey a message that their behavior is wrong.
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Brother the age i said is just my opinion i might be wrong, but i do believe hitting a child is good as it will disicipine them. Also it depends on how you hit a young child, I am not saying abuse a child but i am saying hit them only to disicipline them for example at mosque a kid might misbehave constantly and the teacher can hit the child with a stick on the hand or foot.
 
Mohamed_Sadiq said:
Salaam,

Hitting children in the maddrasha (mosque lesson) is a fantastic way to bring up a child as they will be able to understand what they are doing is wrong. For instance if a child constanlty interupts or misbehaves in lesson the best way to discipline them is hitting them however it better to hit younger children from the ages of 6-14. Also if the child does not recite what they are told they also must be hit but with sincerity this will make them afraid of being hit next time and will learn their lesson for the next lesson this a sufficient way of teaching a child to memorise the holy quran.

So hitting a child in madrassah is acceptable as it will benefit them! and we are not talking about physical abuse such as knocking the teeth out!! Just a simple hit with a stick on the hand or foot!!
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Very much will depend on the teacher and the student.When I was a child, I was Roman Catholic. On Wednesday Catechism class we were given an assignment of prayers to memorize before Sunday. On Sunday catechism class we had to stand up in front of the class and hold our hands out, while we recited Wednesdays assignment, for each mistake the nun swatted our hands with a ruler. If we did not know it at all we got a good paddling on our bottoms. Then had to meet with the Nun daily reciting in front of the Nun and getting swatted for every mistake. I never did learn the prayers and learned how to use cheat sheets. I got to be real good at that and learned how to hide my notes so I could read them without the Nun seeing I was reading.
 
barney said:
It dosnt matter what your own personal opinions are on it. it remains the law.
Hitting using minimum force is only a defence in court if it is in self defence.
Getting a repertition wrong isnt self defence.
These schools are acting criminally. Over in KSA or Iran or whereever, fine. Different more barbaric laws, so thats morally a problem but not legally.

Here you cant smack kids in schools- Period. Do it and you face jail.
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Firstly i was referring to parents hitting Kids when i said you can hit a child using minimal force, sorry should of cleared that up......anyway haha barbaric laws....thats only your opinion. What is so barbaric which i think is a very strong word to use something you'd find on a BNP leaflet most likely.... about hitting a child with minimal force in schools? Explain to me the barbarism in that?
 
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S<Chowdhury said:
Firstly i was referring to parents hitting Kids when i said you can hit a child using minimal force, sorry should of cleared that up......anyway haha barbaric laws....thats only your opinion. What is so barbaric which i think is a very strong word to use something you'd find on a BNP leaflet most likely.... about hitting a child with minimal force in schools? Explain to me the barbarism in that?
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In my opinion, parents are the only ones who are responsible of children so they are the only ones who can use minimal force, but after all, they should not use it, both school and parents have 1001 ways to educate especially nowadays in the 21st century :)
 
Musliman said:
In my opinion, parents are the only ones who are responsible of children so they are the only ones who can use minimal force, but after all, they should not use it, both school and parents have 1001 ways to educate especially nowadays in the 21st century :)
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1001 ways to educate.....there only seems to be only a few selections in schools these days....its either your teacher will kick you out of the lessons which usually has no affect rather your happy to be out of the lesson.....detention for 50mins in which you sit in a room bored out of your mind. For more serious things talks with parents....report cards etc etc and lastly as usual just get kicked of school end up with the wrong crowd and usually followed by a life of crime or drugs etc....imprisonment or sitting on benefits. Sometimes you need to instil some sort of fear in children........though Im not saying beating the daylight out of child sometimes a bit of resonable force is needed.... there needs to be a balance.
 
barney said:
It dosnt matter what your own personal opinions are on it. it remains the law........- Period. Do it and you face jail.
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Interesting, I'll quote you next time athiests like you scream in objection when we say the same thing about Islamic Shariah and they all get all high and mighty about "laws needs to be changed... laws are what we say they are" and all that blaaa that they apparently only say when it's not to their liking.
 
Woodrow said:
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Very much will depend on the teacher and the student.When I was a child, I was Roman Catholic. On Wednesday Catechism class we were given an assignment of prayers to memorize before Sunday. On Sunday catechism class we had to stand up in front of the class and hold our hands out, while we recited Wednesdays assignment, for each mistake the nun swatted our hands with a ruler. If we did not know it at all we got a good paddling on our bottoms. Then had to meet with the Nun daily reciting in front of the Nun and getting swatted for every mistake. I never did learn the prayers and learned how to use cheat sheets. I got to be real good at that and learned how to hide my notes so I could read them without the Nun seeing I was reading.
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Well, nobody can deny that corporal punishment encourages lateral thinking.
 
Every madrassah I have been in they have welcomed me very warmly. I'm sure beatings do occur in the madrassahs, but they are probably isolated incidents.
 

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