Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran

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Dahir said:
I can understand reviewing the Holocaust, but cartoons are pushing the envelope. This "fair" is immature and disrespectful. Don't support it.
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Right now it seems most of the world is doing just that. It is being totaly ignored by both the Islamic and the Western World. Even Iran seems to be ignoring it. Maybe the world is more mature than it leads me to believe at times.
 
therebbe said:
I don't quite understand your point other than your trying to justify the mass murder of Jews in Europe to be run as a cartoon... :uhwhat
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Salaam,

Exactly we muslim dont understand it too,,but since the west keep on maintiang the mantra of freedom of speech,,,,then should it be restricted?

Or should freedom of speech be controlled by ethics and morality?

For the wst when they posted those ill pictures of a Prophet,,,,even tho it is not their Prophet,,,does that make it right for them to be allowd to publicize it??

It can aslo be said that since Iran is not apart nor inflcited any atrocites of the Holocasut,are they not allowed to portray the incident as they wish??

The muslim stance is clear,respect us and we will respect you.

Disrespect us and our reliogn ,why cant we do the smae to you,in the name of free speech?

So in short HYPROCRISY...
 
Salaam,

as i said before,Iran has tested and not propogate it,it has sent a challenge to teh west based on FREE SPEECH..

And they have rejected it...what does it say about Free SPeech?
theirs not our...

And in by doing so,the westrn world realsie and perhaps learn the meaning of the word RESPECT..
 
Exactly we muslim dont understand it too,,but since the west keep on maintiang the mantra of freedom of speech,,,,then should it be restricted?
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Oh no. I do not believe it should be restricted. Let Iran do it! It proves they are anti-jewish though. Let Denmark publish Mohammad. It proves they are Anti-Muslim though!
 
therebbe said:
Oh no. I do not believe it should be restricted. Let Iran do it! It proves they are anti-jewish though. Let Denmark publish Mohammad. It proves they are Anti-Muslim though!
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Salaam,

Exactly..simple isn't it.

the danes will not publish the pictures even tho they siad they will..or their editor said it..

So why wont they post it?

And anti jewish,finally you ahve learned that arabs too are semitic ..LOLOL

We already know the danes and the EU or every other western coutnry that posted those pictures hated Islam..

And we have proven their HATRED to their face.
Under the cover of free speech they cowered to print the caricatures of the Prophet..
Under the cover of free speech they spoke about freedom and democracy.

where is it now?

Their Freedom of Speech or rahter their HATE....
 
Exactly. Thank you.

Case closed. The Danes who printed the pictures do not like Muslims.

Irans gov does not like Jews. Case closed.
 
therebbe said:
Exactly. Thank you.

Case closed. The Danes who printed the pictures do not like Muslims.

Irans gov does not like Jews. Case closed.
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That is very true. As far as papers and magazines go, Have to remember that in much of the Western world the Government has absolutly no say as to what is published. Publishing is a privatly owned business. A publisher goes through the expense of printing a magazine newspaper or whatever in the hopes advertisers or sales will result in a profit. The only reason the Holocost cartoons are not being published is because every publishing company knows they would loose money publishing them. A publisher will only print what will generate profit for his company.
 
therebbe said:
Exactly. Thank you.

Case closed. The Danes who printed the pictures do not like Muslims.

Irans gov does not like Jews. Case closed.
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Salaam,

as i said,the west hates Islam and their actions are very clear in this case.

and Iran does not hate Jews ,if they did the jews in iran would have left iran long ago or be persecuted and what not.

Ahmednijad has said Israel should be wiped out,not jews..

Isreal is a land an ideal,not a real thing,it can be destroyed as it has been 2 times and will be too in the future.
 
Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

as i said,the west hates Islam and their actions are very clear in this case.

and Iran does not hate Jews ,if they did the jews in iran would have left iran long ago or be persecuted and what not.

Ahmednijad has said Israel should be wiped out,not jews..

Isreal is a land an ideal,not a real thing,it can be destroyed as it has been 2 times and will be too in the future.
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Using your own logic, if the West "hated" Islam, why are there so many Muslims in the Western world?
 
Using your own logic, if the West "hated" Islam, why are there so many Muslims in the Western world?
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Why are so many Muslims discriminated in the Western world? Logic applies here as well.
 
QuranStudy said:
Why are so many Muslims discriminated in Israel?
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But they aren't. Muslims hold positions in Israel's congress, can have any job they want, can buy any type of real estate. While in Iran Jews cannot hold certian jobs, have any type of affiliation with the Government and will be jailed if they speak out in support of Israel... Yet in Israel, an Arab can say he wants Israel destroyed and the people defending him from a mob with angry people will be ISRAELI SOLDIERS!....

Get the facts right.
 
But they aren't. Muslims hold positions in Israel's congress, can have any job they want, can buy any type of real estate. While in Iran Jews cannot hold certian jobs, have any type of affiliation with the Government and will be jailed if they speak out in support of Israel... Yet in Israel, an Arab can say he wants Israel destroyed and the people defending him from a mob with angry people will be ISRAELI SOLDIERS!....
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LOL, that last person I would ask for facts from is you. Werent you the one who said the Torah wasnt part of the Bible? I also remember you saying untrue statements on Iran which I have soundly refuted. So no, I do not consider what you say trustworthy.

As far as rights in Israel are concerned, this can speak for itself:
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/isrlpa12224.htm
 
Werent you the one who said the Torah wasnt part of the Bible?
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Please find me that post. Thats completly untrue.

I also remember you saying untrue statements on Iran which I have soundly refuted.
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Oh? Show me...


I am a Muslim who lives in the Holy Land. Where do you live? Anywhere close to the action? Stop listening to these radicals who care less about the Palestinians and only care about death of Jews.

Did any of the Muslim world care about a palestinian state before 1967? No! You just let Egypt and Jordan have it.
 
I'd love to know if you and your family live in the crossfire, or are you just sitting back and watching everything on TV?
 
I read stories from real Muslims in Israel. Such as this one. I also trust credible sources such as HRW.
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Real Muslims in Israel? What is the criterea to be a 'real muslim' these days for you? Hate Jews and Israel?

And I specifically remember people calling HRW a fraud ect when they make any judgement on the Palestinians. Yet, when they are harsh on Israel, it is a 'reliable source'....
 
You guys r weird...everyone is discriminated everywhere. Non muslims that are discriminated in Muslim countries shouldnt be. Theyre supposed to be protected and thats what the Sharia(Islamic Law) says. The Sharia guarantees them that protection. At least when it was followed correctly, they weren't.
 
Real Muslims in Israel? What is the criterea to be a 'real muslim' these days for you? Hate Jews and Israel?
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No, those who turn to Allah in times of discrimination (like in Israel).

And I specifically remember people calling HRW a fraud ect when they make any judgement on the Palestinians. Yet, when they are harsh on Israel, it is a 'reliable source'....
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So, anything that defames Israel by telling the truth is a "fraud." Thank you, but I dont buy it.
 
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