Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran

[Mohsin]

I can't believe some muslims are defending what Iran are doing. What kind of islamic message does this portray? Are people going to be brought closer to the deen? Two wrongs don't make a right. Remember as muslims we should enjoin the good, and forbid the evil


I suppose if it does show one thing it shows there is a limit to "Freedom of expression". Everyone in the west always harps on about the fact there is freedom of expression wheras we know that is not so true. I mean we can't just go up to somebody and start insulting them and start saying "Due to freedom of expression I think you look like a pig". Insha'allah people will now realise the islamic value on freedom of expression. As a khateeb once said during jummah khutba "In islam, you have freedom of expression but that doesn't mean you have the freedom to insult other people"

 

[Zulkiflim]

Using your own logic, if the West "hated" Islam, why are there so many Muslims in the Western world?

Salaam,

It is clear and pls dont put hate in "" ,it is is real hate and not ambiguos.
the west is fearful and hates Islam.

There are many muslim in the western world either due to immigration or due to the western coutnries low birth rate or converts.

does that make them or give the right for the western coutnries to hate Islam?

Or why do they hate Islam?

As i have said,this pictures made by Iran to test the west is clear,it show their hateful stance and show their hate of Islam clearly,and in their cowardice they shield themsevles behind "free speech"

 

[Zulkiflim]

I can't believe some muslims are defending what Iran are doing. What kind of islamic message does this portray? Are people going to be brought closer to the deen? Two wrongs don't make a right. Remember as muslims we should enjoin the good, and forbid the evil


I suppose if it does show one thing it shows there is a limit to "Freedom of expression". Everyone in the west always harps on about the fact there is freedom of expression wheras we know that is not so true. I mean we can't just go up to somebody and start insulting them and start saying "Due to freedom of expression I think you look like a pig". Insha'allah people will now realise the islamic value on freedom of expression. As a khateeb once said during jummah khutba "In islam, you have freedom of expression but that doesn't mean you have the freedom to insult other people"

Salaam,

In this fact there is nothing wrong,Iran is teaching the west of FREE SPEECH as they see it.

they say free speech cnanot be constrained nor ruled,everyone can say anything,and they ahve showned it by violating the command sof our reliogna dn blashemy on our beloved Prophet based on FREE SPEECH.

Is it right? Clearly no,but what do they say or what reason do they use agian and again?

FREE SPEECH.

and thius with this Iran show a point and teaches the west...about respect and values.

that no one free speech is trulyl free wihout harming other religona dn sensitivities.

 

[Mohsin]

Salaam,

In this fact there is nothing wrong,Iran is teaching the west of FREE SPEECH as they see it.

they say free speech cnanot be constrained nor ruled,everyone can say anything,and they ahve showned it by violating the command sof our reliogna dn blashemy on our beloved Prophet based on FREE SPEECH.

Is it right? Clearly no,but what do they say or what reason do they use agian and again?

FREE SPEECH.

and thius with this Iran show a point and teaches the west...about respect and values.

that no one free speech is trulyl free wihout harming other religona dn sensitivities.

I know what you're saying, they are out to prove a point, but i still don't feel two wrongs make a right. I think by the end of the cartoon saga most Brits realised how there isn't reallt a freedom of expression, there are always limits and regulations and things that should never be said

 

[lavikor201]

Salaam,

It is clear and pls dont put hate in "" ,it is is real hate and not ambiguos.
the west is fearful and hates Islam.

There are many muslim in the western world either due to immigration or due to the western coutnries low birth rate or converts.

does that make them or give the right for the western coutnries to hate Islam?

Or why do they hate Islam?

As i have said,this pictures made by Iran to test the west is clear,it show their hateful stance and show their hate of Islam clearly,and in their cowardice they shield themsevles behind "free speech"

Does the Quran give you the right to hate western lifestyle?

 

[QuranStudy]

Does the Quran give you the right to hate western lifestyle?

Define "Western lifestyle" please.

 

[wilberhum]

the west is fearful and hates Islam.

Does the West fear and hate Islam, or Muslims that want to kill us.
I think it is the latter.

 

[Zulkiflim]

Does the Quran give you the right to hate western lifestyle?

Salaam,

what an inane question..

First off,the quran does not have western lifestle and secondly,pls dont follow the warmogners path of WHY DO TEHY AHTE US,,BEcasue of democracy..

Laughable..

I do not hate any lifestyle but for this case Iran has shown clearly to all westerna dn western supporter of they hyprocrisy of their excuses.

Freedom of Speech.

hyprocrisy

 

[Zulkiflim]

Does the West fear and hate Islam, or Muslims that want to kill us.
I think it is the latter.

Salaa,

Becasue of western fear they prejudged and attacked muslim nation or empowerd third parties to abuse musoim.

and when they are faced with the repurcussion they ask themselves,,WHY DO THEY HATE US?

Again the western nation do not wish to see their fingers are casuing the problem,,they just want to blame and be the victims while theya re the aggresors..

 

[lavikor201]

Again the western nation do not wish to see their fingers are casuing the problem,,they just want to blame and be the victims while theya re the aggresors..

Who was the first agressor who started a war between the west and islam? I have a date that may suprise you of who began the agression.

 

[Zulkiflim]

Democracy. Alcohol... ect. In Somalia they will lash you for Alcohol. What if your a non-Muslim Somalia? Same punishment. That is unacceptance of western lifestyle.

Salaam,

so western lifestyle mean democracy? Define democracy and wheter west do practise democracy?

And is dringking alchohol a bastion of democracy?
In the US rape occur every 3 minutes,,is that also a sign of democracy?
Or maybe incest and alternative lifestyle?

well i suppose in Israel beign of alternative lifestyle is OK?

 

[Zulkiflim]

Who was the first agressor who started a war between the west and islam? I have a date that may suprise you of who began the agression.

Salaam,

why dont you post it and then we will know how far your memory stretch or if you rpactise selective amnesia..

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

since lavikor and wilberhum trulyl want to defend western freedom of speech why dont you both take up Iran challenge?

Iran challenge is that the west only practise free speech when it pleases them..
so why not disprove it,you dislike the picture,but depite that print the pictures and spread it around..

show your democracy and your freedom of speech..

Or wont you..

 

[lavikor201]

Salaam,

so western lifestyle mean democracy? Define democracy and wheter west do practise democracy?

And is dringking alchohol a bastion of democracy?
In the US rape occur every 3 minutes,,is that also a sign of democracy?
Or maybe incest and alternative lifestyle?

well i suppose in Israel beign of alternative lifestyle is OK?

The right to a fair trial is democracy after these things are found. Not just cutting the guys head off.

Iran challenge is that the west only practise free speech when it pleases them..
so why not disprove it,you dislike the picture,but depite that print the pictures and spread it around..

If you support Irans free speach then you support Denmarks as well. Do you support Denmark? if not then supporting Iran proves that your a bigot.

 

[wilberhum]

Salaam,

since lavikor and wilberhum trulyl want to defend western freedom of speech why dont you both take up Iran challenge?

Iran challenge is that the west only practise free speech when it pleases them..
so why not disprove it,you dislike the picture,but depite that print the pictures and spread it around..

show your democracy and your freedom of speech..

Or wont you..

Western Democracy is like Islamic Countries in that they are not pure at what there named for.

 

[QuranStudy]

Democracy. Alcohol... ect. In Somalia they will lash you for Alcohol. What if your a non-Muslim Somalia? Same punishment. That is unacceptance of western lifestyle.

Islam supports democracy. Caliphs were selected democratically. I do, however, vehemently oppose legalizing alcohol. Alcohol is the bane of society. People who drink alcohol are not only harming themselves, but are also adversely affecting society. Those who drink deserve to be lashed. That's how you maintain order.

You need a life.
Apparently you also need an education. Do you know what an Agnostic is?
Or is it a case that you don’t read.

Agnostics are as immoral as atheists. Vile creatures

Who was the first agressor who started a war between the west and islam? I have a date that may suprise you of who began the agression.

Israel?? The Pope?? I believe its the former.

The right to a fair trial is democracy after these things are found. Not just cutting the guys head off.

In that case, Israel is far from being a democracy!

If you support Irans free speach then you support Denmarks as well. Do you support Denmark? if not then supporting Iran proves that your a bigot.

I support restriction of freedom so that order is maintained. This includes insulting other religions.

 

[i_m_tipu]

If you support Irans free speach then you support Denmarks as well. Do you support Denmark? if not then supporting Iran proves that your a bigot.

i don't think any muslim or non muslim not supporting the free speech of true speech.

debate on this issue: is it true or lie
if lie than it cannot be supported by any mean especially on sensitive issue.

Holocaust cartoon fair and denmark’s so called free speech on the prophet Muhammad cannot be compared. These r almost appositive things.

even thou i believe any sensitive thing should be encouraged.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

The biggest similarity is that theyre both harmful. Just because one is quicker in hurting u doesnt make one better than the other.

 

[Muslim-Gyal]

Agreed here.

Yeah exactly!!

 

[Muezzin]

I've been keeping an eye on this thread. I've noticed that certain members are coming close to personally insulting each other, and have started talking about subjects that do not pertain to the topic at hand. Therefore, I have deleted those posts and ask that members refrain from going off-topic, and show common courtesy to one another while posting.