How Dare You Not Love Ataturk?

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Skye Ephémérine said:
I invite you to become Muslim as I do anyone I find virtuous... not because anything having to do with the topic or conquests or or.. you'd not give up Jesus when you become Muslim, you might even appreciate him a little more than a toy doll at borders book store or walmart..

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Christianity accepts everyone whether they are virtuous or not. All men have fallen short of the glory of God. Are you trying to say we don't appreciate our Lord and Savior?
 
Pygoscelis said:
I think this is more "anti-islam" than "secularity"

You find the same in many part of the US. People have been living in fear of islam and muslims since 9/11 (and before that for non-americans). Its actually one of the things that brought me to this board, to see if the anti-islam people had legitimate concerns or were just blowing smoke.
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I find quite the opposite. I am Iraqi and don't encounter any hardships at all. Actually most people are pretty nice. Ignorant sometimes but overall nice.
 
Güven said:
Yep You see his head Everywhere in Turkey +o(
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+o( thats not nice!!!
i'm sure you would not like people saying that about you after you pass away ( like i mean when you do God forbid it being soon... Oh im sure u know what i mean)
 
Turkeys ruling AK PARTY is going on trial this shows how much of a democrcy Turkey is.,..
 
AK Party Had Just Won The Votings Last Year With BIG Numbers and Now They Are goin to close it Hmmm , Let them Try
 
Good point there but in the elections western news agencys tryed to say that the AK PARTY were Islamic nutters...
 
"Love" can't be forced.If then it cannot be love.But you can say how dare you don't respect.We can respect people,things etc which we don't love...This is part of being a human at first and a muslim as well.
 
I heard this "Since the West failed to ultimately destroyed the Ottoman Empire during Gallipoli campaign, and with the the Caliph threatening to incite a major muslim uprising in British India, the West began an attempt to destroy the Ottoman Empire from inside. Attaturk are one of the foremost agent in this endeavour" Don't remember where i read it.

The secularist fear the rise of the second Ottoman Empire. If the Caliphate can be reinstituted, then it is possible that the Muslim world can be united at some level.
 
Iam not saying they arnt iam just saying sky news and bbc news said they were islamic fundamentalists....
 
James1992 said:
Iam not saying they arnt iam just saying sky news and bbc news said they were islamic fundamentalists....
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I'm positive they never said that.
what they may have said is that certain party members had connections with now defunct islamic parties or that the supreme court prosecution is accusing the APK of islamic practices or something like that.
 
Well They are An Islamic party But I dont see Any Islamic Practises Comin from Them
 
James1992 said:
Good point there but in the elections western news agencys tryed to say that the AK PARTY were Islamic nutters...
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What Western news agencies are you talking about? Could you provide some links? I've never seen the AK party described as anything worse than "mild Islamists".
 
I am Not saying That They Are Good , They Are Just Giving That People A chance In The Society and Obviosly People Doesnt Want That
 

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