How do Atheists view the Prophets (messengers of Allah)?

[Isambard]

no need for tht, ive made my point already, returning would be a waste of effort.

What point? Your 'point' was basically "I don't know, therefore GOD!".

God-of-the-gaps is a little played out.

 

[NYCmuslim]

I think we have enough arguments of an atheists beliefs (or non-beliefs) in other threads so lets not bring them here.

The responses to my question have been interesting indeed. Jesus (PBUH) seems to be very controversial even in atheists perspectives. Who knew! At least you guys acknowledge the existence of Muhammad (pbuh). Thats a start

 

[wilberhum]

I think we have enough arguments of an atheists beliefs (or non-beliefs) in other threads so lets not bring them here.

The responses to my question have been interesting indeed. Jesus (PBUH) seems to be very controversial even in atheists perspectives. Who knew! At least you guys acknowledge the existence of Muhammad (pbuh). Thats a start

Have you ever seen where someone said that they didn't believe that Muhammad existed? I never have.

 

[Isambard]

I think we have enough arguments of an atheists beliefs (or non-beliefs) in other threads so lets not bring them here.

The responses to my question have been interesting indeed. Jesus (PBUH) seems to be very controversial even in atheists perspectives. Who knew! At least you guys acknowledge the existence of Muhammad (pbuh). Thats a start

Jesus is a tough one because of how common the name was and his background (a peasant). Its a bit like walking around Mexico City and asking people if they know "Juan". That, and the story of Jesus "Christ" isnt original. It seems anyone with some influence and their dog has a similar story woven about them with miracles sprinkled in. From philosophers, rulers, and even just semi-important ppl.

I think alot of the story of "the prophets" and Muhammed is just hero worship to the max. Just look at George Washington. Despite the relative recentness of what he did, there are still myths flying around about him. ie. The chopping of the cheery-tree.

And in America, youd get the same stare if you insulted him that if you had insulted Jesus (assuming who you are talking to is a christian).

 

[Pygoscelis]

if the atheist really believe theres no god, then how do they explain creation?

They don't have to. Atheism is just a lack of belief in Gods. It doesn't make any attempt to explain the origin of the universe. Different atheists will have different ideas about that. Personally I find honesty to be the best policy and admit that I simply do not know. Can't really say I care either.

I'm having difficulty determining if neversirth is serious in his views or just a troll attempting (and failing) to offend atheists.

 

[nevesirth]

They don't have to. Atheism is just a lack of belief in Gods. It doesn't make any attempt to explain the origin of the universe. Different atheists will have different ideas about that. Personally I find honesty to be the best policy and admit that I simply do not know. Can't really say I care either.

I'm having difficulty determining if neversirth is serious in his views or just a troll attempting (and failing) to offend atheists.

tahnks, atheists have no clue what they believe in, they cant explain creation with their intellect so they just dont want to believe theres something tht propelled creation into being, ignorance...........

 

[ranma1/2]

tahnks, atheists have no clue what they believe in, they cant explain creation with their intellect so they just dont want to believe theres something tht propelled creation into being, ignorance...........

im not exactly clear on what your saying here. However if you asking how the universe came into being then its a perfectly fine (and in my opinion honst) to say i dont know. Someone can claim to "know " the answer but unless they can show evidence for it then there answer isnt really worth anything. There are several theories on how things began and currently the big bang is one of the leading ones. As for how life began, were still working on that one as well. Saying god did it tell us nothing as to how.

 

[Pygoscelis]

tahnks, atheists have no clue what they believe in, they cant explain creation with their intellect so they just dont want to believe theres something tht propelled creation into being, ignorance...........

Isn't it just adorable when somebody who can't accept your viewpoint tries to invent a new one for you?

Some theists simply can not accept that nonbelievers don't believe. They have to convince themselves that we're all secretly believers who are rebelling against God (who we know is there) because we want to engage in sin. And it doesn't seem to phase them when you tell them that isn't so. They simply can not get their head around the concept of simply not believing their God exists. I sometimes wonder if they feel threatened by the concept of somebody not believing in their God.

 

[Pygoscelis]

I'm bored, so I've decided to point out that this

cant explain creation with their intellect

has no apparent connection to this

so they just dont want to believe theres something tht propelled creation into being

A person could very easily not be able to explain it with ones intellect and hope a God is behind it. In fact that is the very God-of-the-gaps logic nevesirth is locked into.

 

[KAding]

I believe most prophets probably did exist. However, I obviously don't believe they were insprired or 'send down' by God. I never could understand why a God would have any need for prophets and messengers.

 

[Afifa]

I believe most prophets probably did exist. However, I obviously don't believe they were insprired or 'send down' by God. I never could understand why a God would have any need for prophets and messengers.

he sent down th eprophets and messengers to guide those hu had gone astray..if he didnt where would the world be now? :hmm:

 

[wilberhum]

he sent down th eprophets and messengers to guide those hu had gone astray..if he didnt where would the world be now? :hmm:

Where is the world Now? :hmm:

 

[Afifa]

Where is the world Now? :hmm:

yes well the world have gone astray agin nd do not follow the teachings that the prophet muhammed (S.A.W) brought down and which is in the quran....

 

[Skavau]

you dont believe miracles can happen?

No. Miracles are simply unexplainable acts considered to be wonderful. I do not think that a true miracle is possible, for every act has an explanation. If a specific act has no explanation then existence is reduced to arbitrariness.

do you also believe there are no supernatural occurences in this world?

If supernatural occurrences exist, then they become completely natural and therefore become natural.

Unless you have a different definition here.

or you believe theres a logical explanation for everything

There has to be. The alternative is arbitrariness.

this confirms tht atheists are pple who know tht a god exists but chose to live in denial for some personal reason known to them

I am not even sure what you actually think confirms anything, since I cannot follow your train of thought here - but I can assure you that as an Atheist, my disbelieve in God is sincere. If it was not, I would not be an Atheist.

if the atheist really believe theres no god, then how do they explain creation?

This is a logical fallacy. You presume creation. There is no reason that an Atheist would in fact suppose creation in the slightest. You are projecting your world view onto others.

or do they believe humans and the entire world was created by some intelligent beings from jupiter? or maybe in some years to come, scientists will be able to create another planet with human life as well.

Why presume the world was created when you could rational that it was 'caused'. Why is creation the only possibility?

an intelligent person can never be an atheist, because it takes common sense to realise tht the world came into being by some force beyond the comprehension of the human psyche, call it whatever u want but dont deny tht it does exist........

Ignoring your ad hominem, can you inform us precisely what is logical about presuming that Earth came into existence by some force beyond the comprehension of humanity?

Do you seriously think that the origins of Earth is a completely unknown to scientists?

need not be god, dint i say they can call it whatever they want but they should not try to deny the fact tht it does exist...

Tough.

atheism= denial+ignorance-common sense

Atheism = Disbelief in God or belief there is no God.
You = Bigot

Regards.

 

[chosen]

wow where would the world be now???? for crying out load..how much worse could the world be??? Maybe it is time for another prophet sent by god..as a christian I dont believe this is going to happen..I am just chilling waiting for the return of Jesus..

 

[Afifa]

wow where would the world be now???? for crying out load..how much worse could the world be??? Maybe it is time for another prophet sent by god..as a christian I dont believe this is going to happen..I am just chilling waiting for the return of Jesus..

jus asking in wonder as u r a christian..u beilieve that jesus/isa was the last prophet..hu do u tihnk the prophet Muhammed ( S.a.W) was?

 

[wilberhum]

yes well the world have gone astray agin nd do not follow the teachings that the prophet muhammed (S.A.W) brought down and which is in the quran....

The world has always been astray.
People were astray before Muhammed, during Muhammed's time, and after his time.

 

[Afifa]

The world has always been astray.
People were astray before Muhammed, during Muhammed's time, and after his time.

not really..before the prophet Isa /Jesus nd after he went people wrent astray again and 571 years later allah sent down the final prophet which was Muhammed S.A.W .. now i dont know how long its been since then but during his time many people came back onto the staright path again...but many have now gone astray..its our job to help spread islam.

 

[wilberhum]

not really..before the prophet Isa /Jesus nd after he went people wrent astray again and 571 years later allah sent down the final prophet which was Muhammed S.A.W .. now i dont know how long its been since then but during his time many people came back onto the staright path again...but many have now gone astray..its our job to help spread islam.

I guess your definition of "astray" is vastly different than mine. :?

 

[Afifa]

I guess your definition of "astray" is vastly different than mine. :?

well im saying it as people have let shaytan guide them away from allah swt