How do you be a sage

[Smoke]

I do not underestimate Kiro. But I follow his threads, notice what he write. And I can recognize character of a youth who spend his time too much in front of computer and video games, and less socialize with society.

I myself 48 years old man, father of two sons. I have experienced many things, met many people, learned many wisdom, from my socialization in the society since I was young. That's why I suggest Kiro to have more socialization with people, so he can learn many things in life.

He's very social when he wants to be though

do you let your kids on the computer? How old are they?

Kiro always has thought provoking threads

 

[Smoke]

You kids gotta learn how to respect your elders, let alone wanting to become a 'sage'. Freakin idiots. Do you not understand the wisdom they're trying to teach you? Clearly you're all too far up your own arses. Pull out the plug and see the world for what it is. READ.

What kindof a question is that anyway? How do you be a sage? If you want an ego boost, go back to facebook.

He didn't disrespect anyone

this post however boy oh boy oh boy :heated:

 

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[Smoke]

Ok Kiro

I'll chip in my penny's worth

I think you have already come pretty far in your quest and excelled compared to a lot of others in your age group.

A lot of this comes from introspection and even the prophet saw used to retreat to his cave and occasionally remove himself from the constant hustle and bustle of society. Ardi has kids so we should listen to him cos he is most likely a lot wiser than a lot of us and I also agree with him. Good judgment comes from experience and experience usually comes from bad judgement.

You do have to go and live out in the world but at the same time I think it is a good thing you made this thread. The people can interpret it how they will but your thread could easily have been translated as what life lessons has everyone else learnt? It's wise you're trying to gain other people's insight into experiences you might not have been through because inshaAllah you won't have to make the same mistakes. Having said that your own mistakes will be most valuable.

There's a thin line. If you expose yourself, you are likely to make mistakes and it depends on how sensitive you are. Sometimes these mistakes can turn into a lot of regret and you can feel quite bitter as you reflect on why you made the mistake. If you are ok to this risk then go ahead. If it will scar you then personally I would avoid it. As a man however you have to don a heart of steel so maybe you will need to walk the dark path and come out stronger.

Observation is also key, you'll know the wise ones are usually the ones that remain quiet and take in all the information. They don't need to make a song and dance about it and are secure enough to not seek praise from others to increase their self worth. It's usually in the quiet ones you'll find a wealth of knowledge.

When I was young I would make a lot of dua for wisdom and firaasa (intuition) because these characteristics were ones that I admired. Your biggest source of wisdom will come from the Quran and studying it and reading tafsir and reflecting upon it. There is only One that is All Knowing so any knowledge we may have comes from one ultimate source, Allah swt.

[This is] a blessed Book which We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], that they might reflect upon its verses and that those of understanding would be reminded. [38:29]

Be like a traveller, not too attached to anything but at one with his surroundings.

Learn to always think well of Allah swt no matter what trial or test you face because one of the biggest things people struggle with is contentment. As humans it's in our nature to want more and more but learn contentment. Learn to trust your Lord with an open and unguarded heart thinking well of Him at all times. If you fail in something trust that you are being redirected to something more beneficial. If you do not acquire what your heart desires despite putting full efforts into it, trust something better is out there. Never, ever lose this as you'll find when people reach adulthood this is one of the things that starts to fade once people face the constant let downs/betrayals by people they once thought highly of.

If you don't understand something and you have exerted your efforts, let it humble you that Allah swt is Al Aleem Al Hakeem, the All Knowing the Most Wise.

So yeh Kiro I'm feeling sleepy so don't know what else to add buttttt soak it all in. And good thread

 

[ardianto]

Thank you. Can you give me examples of life experiences perhaps?

In exactly, experiences in life.

Life of a sage actually is not so different than other people. But a sage has a willingness to learn from little thing that he experienced in daily life, and save it in his heart as a wisdom. In example, he meet a poor old woman who sell food beside a street. When he interact with her, he see that this old woman although poor is always grateful with what she get, and she look happy. It raise a consciousness in his heart that happiness is not coming from how much someone have, but from how able this someone be grateful with what he/she have. He save this lesson in his heart, and it makes him wise.

 

[Smoke]

In exactly, experiences in life.

Life of a sage actually is not so different than other people. But a sage has a willingness to learn from little thing that he experienced in daily life, and save it in his heart as a wisdom. In example, he meet a poor old woman who sell food beside a street. When he interact with her, he see that this old woman although poor is always grateful with what she get, and she look happy. It raise a consciousness in his heart that happiness is not coming from how much someone have, but from how able this someone be grateful with what he/she have. He save this lesson in his heart, and it makes him wise.

yesssssss Ardi thatssss what I'm talking about - this is why we need wise older people

 

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Why did my post get deleted?

 

[ardianto]

Why did my post get deleted?

Your last post?. That's moved to page 3.

 

[Smoke]

Your last post?. That's moved to page 3.

no where scumi said something about signing a gift card to my mum and I asked him why and then I got a pm saying the post was deleted and also when I asked Kiro to stop ignoring me - this was also deleted

why do u all hate me

 

[ardianto]

no where scumi said something about signing a gift card to my mum and I asked him why and then I got a pm saying the post was deleted and also when I asked Kiro to stop ignoring me - this was also deleted

why do u all hate me

hmm, ..... I don't know why moderator deleted your posts. But if you want to discuss with moderator about it, you can make a private thread in Helpdesk section.

 

[ardianto]

Bro Ardi, you're wasting your time - the little man thinks a sage is something out of an anime series spoken in a language he doesn't understand :facepalm:

When Kiro started this thread, indeed, I had assumption that he was talking about sage in Naruto. But learn from my experience, I decided to wait until Kiro explain what he meant with sage before I make a post.

My life experience teaches me that I should not too fast to make a conclusion, especially if that based just on assumption.

 

[Smoke]

hmm, ..... I don't know why moderator deleted your posts. But if you want to discuss with moderator about it, you can make a private thread in Helpdesk section.

And face the hate on my own????! Ardiiiiiiii u can't leave ur Muslim sis out for the wolves like that

 

[ardianto]

And face the hate on my own????! Ardiiiiiiii u can't leave ur Muslim sis out for the wolves like that

My sister, as Muslims we must clean up our hearts from suudzon (prejudice). So, do not make assumption that if your post being deleted, it's because moderator hate you. Moderators always have reason in deleting a post although they can make a mistake too, like when a moderator deleted my post due to assumption that I issued a fatwa without evidence.

If you sure you didn't do something wrong, don't be afraid to ask your right to get explanation.

 

[Smoke]

My sister, as Muslims we must clean up our hearts from suudzon (prejudice). So, do not make assumption that if your post being deleted, it's because moderator hate you. Moderators always have reason in deleting a post although they can make a mistake too, like when a moderator deleted my post due to assumption that I issued a fatwa without evidence.

If you sure you didn't do something wrong, don't be afraid to ask your right to get explanation.

But but but.....:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:hew:hmm:

i don't have a good experience when it comes to mods - they always hate me for some reason

 

[Serinity]

As salamu alaikum

This is from your lil bro, Kiro chaan. Before you can become a sage, you must acknowledge your inner self, in order to flourish into a sage, you'll have to let the passion burn through your skin.. May Allah enlighten us. Ameen.

In Jannah, if we meet, In shaa' Allah, I will teach you what it means to be a sage.

And Allah knows best.

 

[Muslim Woman]

But but but.....:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:hew:hmm:

i don't have a good experience when it comes to mods - they always hate me for some reason

Dear sis , why should we hate u ? Think logically .

when i visited the thread from my mobile , it looks like OP does not need these posts ; also those are not useful for any of us . So , i deleted few. Now , I am again visiting this thread to see if more posts need to be vanished .

Help me / us . If u see any post unnecessary and inappropriate - not only here but in any thread , pl. report about it . We can not watch forum 24/7.

Jazakillah khair.

 

[sister herb]

But but but.....:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:hew:hmm:

i don't have a good experience when it comes to mods - they always hate me for some reason

Follow the rules. Keep your posting in facts. Don´t write out of topic. No attacks against other members. No blather in serious discussions. That´s how you do well with moderators.

 

[noraina]

Sis, the moderators certainly do not hate you, they want to make this forum a welcoming place where we can all learn something beneficial and not engage in idle chatter.

Hence try to stick to the topic, try to speak with more restraint if someone says something you disagree with, we are a diverse ummah Alhamdulillah with many opinions from our experiences with life, if you do this you'll get along fine inshaAllah.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Follow the rules. Keep your posting in facts. Don´t write out of topic. No attacks against other members. No blather in serious discussions. That´s how you do well with moderators.

Jazakillah khair sis for reporting about the thread. If we don't get few good posts here , then Insha Allah it will be closed.

 

[Smoke]

Omg whatever u lot are the rudest people I have ever met