How do you react/feel to the suffering/deaths of non-muslims?

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Sorry bro, my meaning wasn´t insult you at all, just be sure about what part of my earlier post you disagreed.

Yes, we never can be too kind to each others, also when we disagree with them.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Abdullah910;

Kafirs are the worst of creatures,

I am pleased I do not have to judge you in the same way you judge me.

Blessings,

Eric
 
I conclude you are ignorant of all things Islam.

Honestly, judging by your threads and posts, I see a compromised Muslim who places more importance on his own opinions than he does on dissemination of Islamic understanding on the matters you opine over.

I find that, childish, and wholly ridiculous - and totally ignorant - because it is.

You have no point left to make, just an opinion you wish to circulate - your questions were all answered here repeatedly - it's not our fault you are dense and cannot understand.

Ask Allah to open you to understanding, coz that's what you need. If Allah doesn't wish for you to understand - there must be a good reason for it - and you will never understand.

If HE wishes for you to understand, then you need to prove your sincerity, and not your emotions.

You have no idea how much of a mess you've made of your own understanding by entertaining juvenile thoughts.

Scimi

Well, did you see my response?
 
[MENTION=40810]Abdullah910[/MENTION],

With your attitude If I was not a Muslim and I was seeking in to Islam I would have run away from you and Islam. However Alhamdullilah that there is Qur'an ahadith, my own mind that I do not have to come to you for knowledge and understanding of Islam.

"So by mercy from Allah , [O Muhammad], you were lenient with them. And if you had been rude [in speech] and harsh in heart, they would have disbanded from about you. So pardon them and ask forgiveness for them and consult them in the matter. And when you have decided, then rely upon Allah . Indeed, Allah loves those who rely [upon Him]. " 3:159
 
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Greetings and peace be with you Abdullah910;

What are you going to do when sharia comes to Europe? Are you still going to reject Islam?

Now answer me this, would you ever accept to live in an Islamic State as a dhimmi?

I am sorry, but I do not answer hypothetical questions, how can any person really know how they would respond in a given situation. I try and look at all people as my brother and sister, we are all created by the same God, and the same God hears all our prayers. I admire the way Muslims pray, fast, their modesty and good manners. I have been pleased to be called uncle, brother, granddad and friend on this forum, and I pray for the salvation of all people.

In the spirit of searching for a greatest meaning of 'One God

Eric
 
Greetings and peace be with you Abdullah910;



I am sorry, but I do not answer hypothetical questions, how can any person really know how they would respond in a given situation. I try and look at all people as my brother and sister, we are all created by the same God, and the same God hears all our prayers. I admire the way Muslims pray, fast, their modesty and good manners. I have been pleased to be called uncle, brother, granddad and friend on this forum, and I pray for the salvation of all people.

In the spirit of searching for a greatest meaning of 'One God

Eric
Than I must invite you to Islam.

Allah عز و جل says: And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me. 51:56

Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. 3:19

[h=2]They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. 5:73[/h][h=2][Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. 19:30[/h][h=2][Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path." 19:36[/h]And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed. 6:21

Are you willing to accept the religion of truth?

We can be brothers if you accept Islam and worship one true God in shaa Allah.





 
@Abdullah910,

With your attitude If I was not a Muslim and I was seeking in to Islam I would have run away from you and Islam. However Alhamdullilah that there is Qur'an ahadith, my own mind that I do not have to come to you for knowledge and understanding of Islam.

"So by mercy from Allah , [O Muhammad], you were lenient with them. And if you had been rude [in speech] and harsh in heart, they would have disbanded from about you. So pardon them and ask forgiveness for them and consult them in the matter. And when you have decided, then rely upon Allah . Indeed, Allah loves those who rely [upon Him]. " 3:159
You should stop playing with the Qur'an and stop posting Qur'an verses against me.





mods stop deleting my messages
 
Greetings and peace be with you Abdullah910;

Than I must invite you to Islam.

Now here's the thing, you list me amongst the worst of creatures, then as an after thought, you invite me to Islam. You may need to reflect on your approach, if you truthfully want to encourage dawah.

We can be brothers if you accept Islam and worship one true God in shaa Allah.

We are all created by the same God, the same God hears all our prayers, I try and look on all people as my sisters and brothers, despite our differences. I have had a number of profound experiences, when my faith has made the difference between life and death. I wish you every blessing and peace

Eric
 
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Allah has given you many rights and protected these rights through a system of Law (Islam). If someone abused your personal rights, according to the justice of Islam - you have the right to hold them accountable and you also have the right of choice - to forgive them. This is your right and you r not questioned or held blameworthy for excercising this choice. Infact, Allah has based mans rights Upon accountability, and He has based His :swt: rights upon forgiveness. Meaning, if we abuse the rights of man - we will be held accountable - however, if we abuse Allahs rights, He can forgive us for it if He wills. To this extent , Allah cares for and protects our rights. We get so upset when someone abuses even one of our rights. Then, what about the rights of Allaah? When someone abuses our rights, we quote our rights and call for accountability, yet when Allahs rights are abused, we struggle with the idea of accountability? The problem is, we don't recognise Allah or know WHO HE IS or believe in His justice and Mercy, we don't understand the crime of disbelieving in Him, or recognise the severity of it, this is why we struggle to accept the severe punishment of Hell.

Yes, we have rights and responsibilities which have been clearly defined by the shariah.

We transgress when whims are followed instead of shariah.
 
Ok, I can see what you are saying but please forgive me for being emotional. I mean for example, atheist just believe people who are suffering die and that's it, no second chances, which can be seen as a sucky way of thinking, right? With Islam, when suffering muslim dies, they get a second chance in paradise, but the fact that a non-muslim does not is something I am struggling with.
Problem is that atheists don't want yield to the injunctions of Lord, rather their mission is to criticize the religion. They are the slaves of the whims.When the msg of Islam is before them that non believers will go to hell if they don't die as Muslims, but this msg is not acceptable to them. They want to change the religion and wish to get the religion subjugated to their whims.This is the open challenge to the creator of this universe and they will see the consequence of their stubbornness.
 
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Kafirs are the worst of creatures, they shall all go to jahannam and abide therein forever if they dont accept Islam.May Allah guide these kuffar or may He destroy them, ameen.
you can't spread Islam by spreading hatred
 
Than I must invite you to Islam.

Allah عز و جل says: And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me. 51:56

Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. 3:19

They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. 5:73

[Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. 19:30

[Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path." 19:36

And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed. 6:21

Are you willing to accept the religion of truth?

We can be brothers if you accept Islam and worship one true God in shaa Allah.

Dude, it doesn't work like that. Just like brother @Eric H stated, "you list me amongst the worst of creatures, then as an after thought, you invite me to Islam".

In Islam it is not simply only about conquering of the mind, but conquering of the heart is the MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT. There are discussions one can have with atheists PURELY based on logic, rationality and reason with scientific evidence that Islam is the truth having a discussion (Islam vs Atheism). Based on that the mind has already been conquered so to say, however YET STILL they do not accept Islam.

The question is why? Because you have not conquered the heart. Some people just hate you and everything that you represent you being Muslim, Christian, Jew or of any other religion. These people are ignorant as ignorant can be and you leave them be, as they are not having a discussion to seek the truth. They will offend you in any way possible. These people most likely have had very bad experience in their life that a loved one or so has died and they have come resent religion and Allah, because they are ignorant of the fact that this life is all a test.

"And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace," Qur'an 25:63

In other words, we are still kind to them and merciful to them as they don't know and don't understand.

"O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion – Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing." Qur'an 5:54

The disbelievers are the ones that KNOW from the bottom of their heart that Islam is the truth, yet they reject it. So those are NOT the ones that are ignorant, but rather are very knowledgeable about all of it, however they reject out of hatred, or pride or arrogance. Take Abu Jahil (Amr ibn Hishām) he KNEW Islam was the truth and had nothing to refute Islam, yet out of pride and arrogance rejected Islam and attacked Islam by force.

Why do you think that in Islam good character is SOO IMPORTANT!!. Qur'an highlights this and the sunnah highlights this. Islamic history has even highlighted this as for example many places in Asia have become Muslim based on this.

When one has good character, people want to be near you and hang out with you. When people do that, they respect you and listen careful to what you have to say and ponder about what you are saying.

So my advice is ponder more about how to achieve good character. Islam when one starts practicing it to achieve especially good character is not easy. Sharing what you have, wishing somebody else to have what you have, helping somebody out of the goodness of your heart, if somebody offends you, you not lowering yourself to his level of ignorance. Being good to children and how to handle them, being good and merciful to creatures, keeping your mouth shut when nothing beneficial to say. It is not easy at first, but once you have cleared your intention to Allah He opens the road for you that slowly becomes so easy to achieve all those character traits.

About brother @Eric H, he i THINK already has acknowledged Islam as he has been on this forum for such a long time and i BELIEVE is right now is mostly in struggle with his inner self. Let him be and let him walk his journey at his own pace.

Look at the story of Umar ibn Khattab (ra) it took i believe 5 years before he became a Muslim. So every human being has a different road that leads him to Islam, the road also may be long, while for the other is shorter. It is just want a person needs to experience first to finally concluded Islam is the truth. This again differs for each human being.

So take it easy and be lenient to people.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Abdullah910;

Now here's the thing, you list me amongst the worst of creatures, then as an after thought, you invite me to Islam. You may need to reflect on your approach, if you truthfully want to encourage dawah.

LOL, true that my brother Eric :)

@Abdullah910,

You can't seriously believe you can make someone a Muslim by going hot and cold with them when it takes your fancy bro.

I advise you to revise your method in sha Allah.

Scimi
 
LOL, true that my brother Eric :)

@Abdullah910,

You can't seriously believe you can make someone a Muslim by going hot and cold with them when it takes your fancy bro.

I advise you to revise your method in sha Allah.

Scimi

Do you mind answering my question about concerned with fate of suffering muslims though?
 
Suffering where? :D

I've already answered you here and in PM, but you are a few pennies short of a pound young man.

You won't get it.

Scim
 
LOL, true that my brother Eric :)

@Abdullah910,

You can't seriously believe you can make someone a Muslim by going hot and cold with them when it takes your fancy bro.

I advise you to revise your method in sha Allah.

Scimi

He needs to revise his entire understanding of Islam. This is the same guy that recently said on a different threat that if his wife didn't wear a burka, he'd hit her. What a piece of work. Maybe he's a troll.
 

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